A Good Trend from the Orchard?

gumby73

forgetting all the f'd up defensive schemes & lack of playing time. Orch got better the more he saw the field. More positive growth in 2016 next step..

Mudfly

I think he'll be a pretty good player for us.....played very little early on and came on strong for the finish....Id say he's our best OLB already.....

Clevfan4life

No knock on Orchard, but compare his start with Macks.....look at what we're happy with. In his 2nd year Mack was a pro bowler at 2 positions. This is the kind of talent we cannot pass on anymore.

Mudfly

and sadly, even with the #2 pick, there are no Macks to be had....

Clevfan4life

@mudfly said:
and sadly, even with the #2 pick, there are no Macks to be had....

I disagree. I don't know about as elite as Mack, but pretty damn close. Comparing their tape to Macks, I see similar fundamentals out of Jack and Bosa. Smith too before he got hurt. Fuck I am still so mad about Mack. It's infuriating especially when we were all like ok it's Mack or Watkins here we go.......and then we trade down. Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

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A 51st pick overall I doubt if he was considered any part of being a project. But that's the NFL for you. You may be talented but a player must be in the right system to fit where they can excell. I hope Horton coming back he puts Orchard where he can succeed rather than fall thru the cracks.

Mudfly

I like Jack and I like Bosa.....believe me, I do......and Jack is probably my favorite player in the draft and likely the guy "Id" pick, but dont think they're at that elite level that Mack is....(or was in college).....

Darron Lee is also a guy Id like to see on the Browns....another very very good one, but not sure he's great or elite....

Tour2ma

@clevfan4life said:
Fuck I am still so mad about Mack. It's infuriating especially when we were all like ok it's Mack or Watkins here we go.......and then we trade down. Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

No matter how much we have and may disagree over other stuff... we'll always have this ^...

I was stunned Mack was still on the board at our pick... and double stunned when we passed on him...

The Gipper

I expect bigger things from both Orchard and Cooper. They will need to contribute more what with both Starks and A. Bryant out of the picture.

And if anyone is saying the Browns don't need more pass rush, then they are smoking toilet paper. If they don't go Bosa, then they will need to promote Orchard heavily....and pick up another DE somewhere along the line.

Clevfan4life

@tour2ma said:

No matter how much we have and may disagree over other stuff... we'll always have this ^...

I was stunned Mack was still on the board at our pick... and double stunned when we passed on him...

It felt like you got punched in the dick didn't it? At least how it felt for me. We had two blue chip can't miss guys on the board, both were "dire" needs too...so it wasn't like they would have been luxury picks. Right in the balls.

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@clevfan4life said:
It felt like you got punched in the dick didn't it? At least how it felt for me. We had two blue chip can't miss guys on the board, both were "dire" needs too...so it wasn't like they would have been luxury picks. Right in the balls.

I guess they didn't see the movie Draft Day? It would've been that epic.

TexasAg1969

@clevfan4life said:

It felt like you got punched in the dick didn't it? At least how it felt for me. We had two blue chip can't miss guys on the board, both were "dire" needs too...so it wasn't like they would have been luxury picks. Right in the balls.

But we got Gilbert and then Erving the next year out of that deal. What more could you ask for? Oh, wait.

Mudfly

and Campbell the 4th rounder....who looks like the best of that group....(luck)

TexasAg1969

@mudfly said:
and Campbell the 4th rounder....who looks like the best of that group....(luck)

Was it the darts or the chickens responsible for that one?

Mudfly

definitely darts.....

sisky fringo

@mudfly said:
definitely darts.....

lol