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How likely, now, do you'all think it is, that the Browns trade down from #2?

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  • Don't think this FO has any idea what is going on. Have zero faith in Jimmy Haslam to accomplish anything

  • Witness the collapse of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. The poor folks of Cleveland deserve much better than the camel shit that's been shoveled on them for the past decade.

    I've been waiting for a turnaround long enough. Face it folks - it won't happen in our lifetime.

    hoortaH 1 Reply
  • darren15D darren15

    We need picks now more than ever ......

    @darren15 said:

    We need picks now more than ever ......

    No. We need difference-making players... Just as much now as ever.

    #Justsayin'
  • How likely, now, do you'all think it is, that the Browns trade down from #2?

    Gotta say, cal, more likely than I thought when I got up this AM.

    But we've 7 more weeks to go...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • We have lost some good but not great players! We need to replace some finesse OL with a couple of

    mauler/roadgrader types!!! Our defense will survive without Gipson and this is a deep defensive

    draft! This day FA wise could have gone better,but it could have gone much worse. I still have faith

    In Hue and Co.and refuse to go chicken little!!! If we get three or four FOOTBALL players in FA

    we will be fine...maybe even get to five wins this year πŸ˜‰ STAY POSITIVE!!! GO BROWNS

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  • BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar

    We have lost some good but not great players! We need to replace some finesse OL with a couple of

    mauler/roadgrader types!!! Our defense will survive without Gipson and this is a deep defensive

    draft! This day FA wise could have gone better,but it could have gone much worse. I still have faith

    In Hue and Co.and refuse to go chicken little!!! If we get three or four FOOTBALL players in FA

    we will be fine...maybe even get to five wins this year πŸ˜‰ STAY POSITIVE!!! GO BROWNS

    @brownsnmopar said:

    We have lost some good but not great players! We need to replace some finesse OL with a couple of

    mauler/roadgrader types!!! Our defense will survive without Gipson and this is a deep defensive

    draft! This day FA wise could have gone better,but it could have gone much worse. I still have faith

    In Hue and Co.and refuse to go chicken little!!! If we get three or four FOOTBALL players in FA

    we will be fine...maybe even get to five wins this year πŸ˜‰ STAY POSITIVE!!! GO BROWNS

    Well said. I'm very interested to see what happens over the long haul.

    Mike

    INΒ DORSEY I TRUST
  • BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar

    We have lost some good but not great players! We need to replace some finesse OL with a couple of

    mauler/roadgrader types!!! Our defense will survive without Gipson and this is a deep defensive

    draft! This day FA wise could have gone better,but it could have gone much worse. I still have faith

    In Hue and Co.and refuse to go chicken little!!! If we get three or four FOOTBALL players in FA

    we will be fine...maybe even get to five wins this year πŸ˜‰ STAY POSITIVE!!! GO BROWNS

    @brownsnmopar said:

    We have lost some good but not great players! We need to replace some finesse OL with a couple of

    mauler/roadgrader types!!! Our defense will survive without Gipson and this is a deep defensive

    draft! This day FA wise could have gone better,but it could have gone much worse. I still have faith

    In Hue and Co.and refuse to go chicken little!!! If we get three or four FOOTBALL players in FA

    we will be fine...maybe even get to five wins this year πŸ˜‰ STAY POSITIVE!!! GO BROWNS

    This feels like the implosion that took place at Philly with another guy who had no idea what he was doing. Sorry they failed to retain the free agents they said they wanted to keep. Massive fail.

  • CBS Sports is saying they were negotiating with Schwartz and then yanked the offer. For whatever reason the Browns aren't being flexible. The negative Press is out in full force today.

    They better have a good draft.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • It's one thing to negotiate, and another to be played against other teams huge offers.

    Not a winning game.

  • C calfoxwc

    It's one thing to negotiate, and another to be played against other teams huge offers.

    Not a winning game.

    @calfoxwc said:

    It's one thing to negotiate, and another to be played against other teams huge offers.

    Not a winning game.

    Maybe if they had negotiated better before open season then those things would not be happening now.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @calfoxwc said:

    It's one thing to negotiate, and another to be played against other teams huge offers.

    Not a winning game.

    Maybe if they had negotiated better before open season then those things would not be happening now.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Maybe if they had negotiated better before open season then those things would not be happening now.

    or....maybe the players just wouldnt sign because they wanted more $ or just to leave....considering Mack and Schwartz signed for less than we offered, Id say thats the more likely scenario......and Benji has been "negotiating for 5 months now, with BOTH FO's, yet didnt sign.....5 months.....and Gipson?....you think he's a $7 million safety?.....seriously?....

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  • SuomiS Suomi

    Witness the collapse of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. The poor folks of Cleveland deserve much better than the camel shit that's been shoveled on them for the past decade.

    I've been waiting for a turnaround long enough. Face it folks - it won't happen in our lifetime.

    @suomi said:

    Witness the collapse of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. The poor folks of Cleveland deserve much better than the camel shit that's been shoveled on them for the past decade.

    I've been waiting for a turnaround long enough. Face it folks - it won't happen in our lifetime.

    Yup- welcome to the level of Cubs fandom. Maybe Harlem Globetrotters, because right now we're only good for a few laughs to the rest of the NFL.

    @mudfly said:

    or....maybe the players just wouldnt sign because they wanted more $ or just to leave....considering Mack and Schwartz signed for less than we offered, Id say thats the more likely scenario......and Benji has been "negotiating for 5 months now, with BOTH FO's, yet didnt sign.....5 months.....and Gipson?....you think he's a $7 million safety?.....seriously?....

    Right now I don't know what to think Mud. If the bold is true- we have one toxic situation brewing on the shore of Lake Erie.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @suomi said:

    Witness the collapse of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. The poor folks of Cleveland deserve much better than the camel shit that's been shoveled on them for the past decade.

    I've been waiting for a turnaround long enough. Face it folks - it won't happen in our lifetime.

    Yup- welcome to the level of Cubs fandom. Maybe Harlem Globetrotters, because right now we're only good for a few laughs to the rest of the NFL.

    @mudfly said:

    or....maybe the players just wouldnt sign because they wanted more $ or just to leave....considering Mack and Schwartz signed for less than we offered, Id say thats the more likely scenario......and Benji has been "negotiating for 5 months now, with BOTH FO's, yet didnt sign.....5 months.....and Gipson?....you think he's a $7 million safety?.....seriously?....

    Right now I don't know what to think Mud. If the bold is true- we have one toxic situation brewing on the shore of Lake Erie.

    @hoorta said:

    Yup- welcome to the level of Cubs fandom. Maybe Harlem Globetrotters, because right now we're only good for a few laughs to the rest of the NFL.

    Right now I don't know what to think Mud. If the bold is true- we have one toxic situation brewing on the shore of Lake Erie.

    It is true......we offered both of them better deals and they passed......and we had enough sense to draw the line with the other 2 ...

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @hoorta said:

    Yup- welcome to the level of Cubs fandom. Maybe Harlem Globetrotters, because right now we're only good for a few laughs to the rest of the NFL.

    Right now I don't know what to think Mud. If the bold is true- we have one toxic situation brewing on the shore of Lake Erie.

    It is true......we offered both of them better deals and they passed......and we had enough sense to draw the line with the other 2 ...

    @mudfly said:

    It is true......we offered both of them better deals and they passed......and we had enough sense to draw the line with the other 2 ...

    Well that does not bode well for the persuasive powers of the new regime then does it.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @mudfly said:

    It is true......we offered both of them better deals and they passed......and we had enough sense to draw the line with the other 2 ...

    Well that does not bode well for the persuasive powers of the new regime then does it.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well that does not bode well for the persuasive powers of the new regime then does it.

    Or players get tired of having new coaches/GMs every two years.

    Mack wanted out a few years ago. It should have shocked no one that he left.

  • I dont know Ag....Im not drawing conclusions after only 1/2 day on the job......Mack was gone and we all knew it.....I agree with letting the other 2 go....so, to me, Schwartz was the one deal I hoped and expected them to really work on....and they didnt get it done.....does that mean they suck?....I think it would be irrational to conclude that today.....

    If they sigh another decent C and T, then no big deal.....right?.....

    Dont forget, we have yet another new guy on the job....so, again, just like every 2 years here, there is yet another learning curve to endure.....thats how it goes when you hire a completely new staff every other year.....especially staff that has no experience at the job they are now doing....

  • Interesting how we are getting slammed for having a bad day...yet Denver and the horse face are getting articles of praise for standing pat and "not signing" players who dont want to be there.....and the players they let walk are actually good.....weird eh?

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  • Erving will step right in and replace Mack. I believe in him.

    /mommairving

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Erving will step right in and replace Mack. I believe in him.

    /mommairving

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Erving will step right in and replace Mack. I believe in him.

    /mommairving

    HA!....Ive been with you all the way......until now.....πŸ˜‰

  • I would like to see Wisnewski brought in or, worst case, a rookie takes the job.

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