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  • when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    @mudfly said:

    when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    Most here overvalue the guys wearing brown. What scares me is guys leaving for less money and until we sign a worthwhile free agent to reasonable money I'm calling glass half-empty. If I'm Russell Okung the only reason I want to go to Cleveland and suck, is to get paid.

  • when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    @mudfly said:

    when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    So we can get our heads out of the oven?

  • when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    @mudfly said:

    when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    EXACTLY!!! As for the future?........ photo-thumb-413.jpg?_r=1451713240

    To attain sweeping change, we must effect sweeping change. I'm supporting the Browns come hell or high water, as always.

    Mike

  • @mudfly said:

    when you're 3-13 year after year....your "starters" aren't as good as you might think.....not one guy who left cant be replaced....

    Plenty of good OL still not signed(plen tee).....Gipson and Benji are, so far, both one year wonders....not proven talents....

    Lots of time and options for us to sort this out.....maybe tomorrow, eh?....doesnt have to happen in the first 2 hours...

    So we can get our heads out of the oven?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    So we can get our heads out of the oven?

    u now owe me a 1/2 Rum & Coke LOL..

  • But we get rid of the best players who gave us a 3-13 record and keep the rest.......

  • But we get rid of the best players who gave us a 3-13 record and keep the rest.......

    @darren15 said:

    But we get rid of the best players who gave us a 3-13 record and keep the rest.......

    They are under contract or else they would be taking a walk as well.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Yes, you can't just expect to keep a 3 - 13 franchise intact without having a few rebuild years.

    Hey, pimp bait, one would FIRST have to have something worth rebuilding, to rebuild.

    Well at least you aren't focused on offensive linemen this time, Mongo.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Yes, you can't just expect to keep a 3 - 13 franchise intact without having a few rebuild years.

    Hey, pimp bait, one would FIRST have to have something worth rebuilding, to rebuild.

    and thats the funny part///people are pissed because we arent keeping that perennial loser "intact".....our UDFA safety and mid round 1 year wonder WR have left, and we will somehow suffer because of that.....

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    So we can get our heads out of the oven?

    u now owe me a 1/2 Rum & Coke LOL..

    @gumby73 said:

    u now owe me a 1/2 Rum & Coke LOL..

    Come on down, the liquor cabinet is open.

    @mudfly said:

    and thats the funny part///people are pissed because we arent keeping that perennial loser "intact".....our UDFA safety and mid round 1 year wonder WR have left, and we will somehow suffer because of that.....

    Yeah- and Blow and Johnny Boy are still on the roster, care to explain that one if we're into a nuclear detonation?

  • @gumby73 said:

    u now owe me a 1/2 Rum & Coke LOL..

    Come on down, the liquor cabinet is open.

    @mudfly said:

    and thats the funny part///people are pissed because we arent keeping that perennial loser "intact".....our UDFA safety and mid round 1 year wonder WR have left, and we will somehow suffer because of that.....

    Yeah- and Blow and Johnny Boy are still on the roster, care to explain that one if we're into a nuclear detonation?

    @hoorta said:

    Come on down, the liquor cabinet is open.

    Yeah- and Blow and Johnny Boy are still on the roster, care to explain that one if we're into a nuclear detonation?

    dont know about Johnny....but blowe is just another really bad over paid FA WR.....which, at least, we didnt do again today.....

    but, hey, we coulda offered Benji $7m and had 2 of em.....

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Yes, you can't just expect to keep a 3 - 13 franchise intact without having a few rebuild years.

    Hey, pimp bait, one would FIRST have to have something worth rebuilding, to rebuild.

    and thats the funny part///people are pissed because we arent keeping that perennial loser "intact".....our UDFA safety and mid round 1 year wonder WR have left, and we will somehow suffer because of that.....

    @mudfly said:

    and thats the funny part///people are pissed because we arent keeping that perennial loser "intact".....our UDFA safety and mid round 1 year wonder WR have left, and we will somehow suffer because of that.....

    Four years on and you're still judging them by the round they're drafted? I mean, both look decent players but not irreplaceable, no doubt (imo) that Mack and Schwartz will be bigger losses, but again, not irreplaceable, in a vacuum. On the bigger picture though, we've lost four starters, when Hue wanted to retain them and add a few more. Now we have to find 6-7 starters to get where coach wants to be. And who would want to come here, with what's gone down?

    I'm sure we'll be scraping the FA barrel, and our FO is probably OK with that, thinking they can pick up some starters for vet minimum or just above, that will outplay their contract. They probably can, but they won't necessarily play up to the level that's required to win in the NFL.

    Anyway, let's wait and see, there are still plenty of good 'filler' players around, and we can add our 'star' players through the draft, as was the plan all along, I guess.

  • @darren15 said:

    Best quote: "I heard DiPodesta offered Schwartz incentives based on Plate Appearances." LOL 😆

  • @darren15 said:

    Right, agents complain because the Browns are no longer the gravy train that they have been used to.

  • @darren15 said:

    Right, agents complain because the Browns are no longer the gravy train that they have been used to.

    @the-gipper said:

    Right, agents complain because the Browns are no longer the gravy train that they have been used to.

    Yeah it is just pouting over Cleveland no longer being a piggy bank for aging players.

  • If anyone has seen the Sloth scene in Zootopia will know how quick our FO moved on day one of free agency 🙂

  • It's a true rebuild when you lose Mack, Benjamin only receiver, Mitchell Schwartz, and more to come. They'll probably lose Gipson too.

    We're going to need patience watching this unfold.

    My question is: who do they draft that's going to make a difference this year?

    @opal312 said:

    It's a true rebuild when you lose Mack, Benjamin only receiver, Mitchell Schwartz, and more to come. They'll probably lose Gipson too.

    We're going to need patience watching this unfold.

    My question is: who do they draft that's going to make a difference this year?

    Patience or Patients?

    We've become the on-going sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

    "Hit me. Hit me." Calm down Martini I haven't even shuffled the damn deck yet. Our new front office can relate. They're going to get way too much credit for the sins they inherited while their first draft can't get here soon enough.

    "I want my cigarettes. I WANT MY CIGARETTES! I WANT MY CIGARETTES!!" Take your damn meds Cheswick. Joe Thomas is killing us! JOE THOMAS IS KILLING US! JOE THOMAS IS KILLING US!! Exhale Ghoolie...

    "When you get that big red beaver up there starin at your face - there ain't a whole helluva lot you can do Doc." That's an interesting perspective Mr McMurphy. Hard to believe such a mind set would have franchise QB written all over it but that's Farmer's Insurance can do for us...

    "I think I'm gonna take a bunch of nuts fishing." We're going to need someone that crazy for pocket duty in Cleveland again. There's a new and unique QB stat Cleveland fans take very seriously today - survived starts.

    "So, do you still want to be a Browns fan Mr Flugel?" Hell yeah! I'm gonna go get Chief a starting Right Tackle job in Cleveland. If that doesn't work any better than the pharmacy Nurse Ratched has me on, I'm gonna try swimming lessons in a hurricane...

  • Cuckoo's Nest...

    One of the best adaptations of a great book into a great movie...

  • Cuckoo's Nest...

    One of the best adaptations of a great book into a great movie...

    @tour2ma said:

    Cuckoo's Nest...

    One of the best adaptations of a great book into a great movie...

    I know. Think about how many different acting careers turned the corner after that movie like Danny DeVito and Christopher Lloyd.

  • Great movie!!.....one of the few that I can watch over and over and still enjoy every time......