Gipson to the Jags

Comeonman

@sdballis said:

That could be what the analytics say... Gipson has injury history, had one truly good year, and there was obviously bad blood here. Why pay 7mil for him when you can get 80% of his production for half the cost??

Brad Pitt logic?

Comeonman

Then again that is the whole idea behind this baseball guy isn't it

browns52

@mudfly said:
Good things its only one day......we have weeks to go.....

sorry mud, there are not many more good players left...bad day but hey, that is what happens when you are a consistant loser. No one wants to play for you..It's going to be up to the draft once again. They are not going to get good free agents until they can show they can win...that's the bottom line mud...

browns52

@thenew23 said:

We were 3-13, the 2nd worst team in the league... The guys we lost were a part of that...

What exactly do we have to lose?

not a smart statement there....

Mudfly

@browns52 said:
sorry mud, there are not many more good players left...bad day but hey, that is what happens when you are a consistant loser. No one wants to play for you..It's going to be up to the draft once again. They are not going to get good free agents until they can show they can win...that's the bottom line mud...

exactly....every one is mad, as if it was the Browns who decided for these guys to leave.....we made good offers to both Mack and Schwartz, but they still signed elsewhere.....and for less than we offered them....thats on them, what were we supposed to do?...hold a gun to their head?.....

and to say there are not many good players left?....ha...there never were many good players....believe me, Benji and Gipson are not that good and no where near worth the contracts they got(not even close)....we can go sign other average guys to replace them or actually even try to improve.....same with the OL....plenty of guys left out there, so dont see why we cant sign some and be as good(or better)....

hell, last year we gave Gipson a third round tender and not one team made an offer....not one....and now, all of a sudden, he's worth 7 mil a year?!?!(he's not)......maybe we didnt get better "today", but resigning guys like Benji and Gipson for WAY too much money aint making us better either....

this team has a lot of work to do before it starts winning and over paying a few average players today wont change that.....especially if they're guys who dont even want to be here....whats the point in that?

the team sucks and the only way to improve is to get new players, so time to start....always amazed how everyone cries every time a player leaves, as if everyone that leaves is some kind of super star.....please.....

wargograw

Well people sure have turned on their "this roster is as good as any in the NFL save QB" positions they took a year ago.

gumby73

Absolutely dead spot on Sir Mud. Surely Gipson & Mack both were disappointed with Farmers contract negotiations but for damn sure their agents & players union knew at sometime the new cap & market was going up & look it's raining money.. that gun Farmer had to their head had no bullets. As always the cap was there, but was that the time to use it before we got to today will always linger but we won no more games with them. The truth is, we still offered all of them better deals and they all wanted out. The Schwartz is my pisser of the day, but out of all of our FA's he's playing for a winner, great coach & great football city. I wish him well..

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
....always amazed how everyone cries every time a player leaves, as if everyone that leaves is some kind of super star.....please.....

Why amazed?

Everyone has their favs...

Every fav is rose-colored...

More than enough posters to cover the roster... a couple times over...

Wasn't that long ago we had a couple worst-to-first debates...

Hope is a thin commodity around here and yesterday we went 0-4 boosting our hope...

... and that's just defending our now former players.

gftChris

Related - the Jags could be serious this year. Their O is pretty decent and should only improve, Bortles getting better, Allen's improving and Julius Thomas being not injured. Then on D Malik Jackson, the return of Dante Fowler, and if they can pick up Bosa (Tunsil/Goff/Jack/Ramsey going top for is not impossible) then look out for a very mean front four.

darren15

Jags are my wife's team ........ good job we do not play them this year ..... would be an embarrassment

LogicIsForSquares

@darren15 said:
Jags are my wife's team ........ good job we do not play them this year ..... would be an embarrassment

Sashi used to work for the Jags and the strategy the Browns are using now is exactly what the Jags had to do a few years ago.

tiamat63

I wonder, given his projected draft position and our now current need - does this open the door for Von Bell at 33?

Tour2ma

So many ways to spend that #32 pick, why not one more?

Again tho... am I the only one not dreading the thought of starting Poyer?

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:
Again tho... am I the only one not dreading the thought of starting Poyer?

Im down....FS isn't a big worry for me.....Poyer played fine in relief last season and I think we have some other prospects for that role that would/could do just fine.....

gftChris

@mudfly said:
Im down....FS isn't a big worry for me.....Poyer played fine in relief last season and I think we have some other prospects for that role that would/could do just fine.....

So you're not in Camp Bell, then, but...

(word play is for studs)

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
... and I think we have some other prospects for that role that would/could do just fine.....

Perhaps a tall, athletic former CB that learned to tackle on STs last year?

gftChris

@tour2ma said:

Perhaps a tall, athletic former CB that learned to tackle on STs last year?

*that* would be a hell of a redemption story

Mudfly

@gftchris said:

So you're not in Camp Bell, then, but...

(word play is for studs)

Im still in Camp Bell @ SS.....

@tour2ma said:

Perhaps a tall, athletic former CB that learned to tackle on STs last year?

Yes!....perhaps.....and think Desir and Olomu are viable options too......

But...I like Poyer....think he has developed nicely as a player....

Unsympathetic

Pryor would be a hell of a FS..... His athleticism is equal or better than Earl Thomas.

Poyer/Campbell/Desir may be serviceable players, but this way Pryor wouldn't have to run routes..

Mr. Make-Believe

As disappointed as I am about losing everyone, I would have been more disappointed in this case had we given Gipson this contract.

The only real big loss to me is still Mitch.