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  • So I don't really want to ask about any particular moves but just about your overall enthusiasm. I try to be a pretty positive guy I do realize that we went 3 and 13 with these guys last season. And collapsed the second half of the Season before.

    That being said even though I realize that coach Pettine was not anybody's first choice, I like the guy and his attitude and his play like a Brown mantra. I liked Ray Farmer and his experience. I was excited about the background that Mike Holmgren brought to the team. I was excited about Hometown boy Rob Chudzinski

    Now I realize the NFL is falling over themselves to praise Hue Jackson.

    Maybe it's partially because I hate the Bengals, maybe it's partially because I'm not choked up by some dipshit attorney in charge of the roster, maybe partially because so far I don't have any faith in this Analytics scam with a baseball jag off at the helm, and maybe it's because I have a hard time getting behind a stupid Tennessee Hillbillies wife calling the shots but I'm finding it harder to be excited over this year's biannual remake.

    I don't mean to be a negative dickhead like a lot of the guys here and I will do my best to cheer up, make excuses for our guys and hope for the best but am I alone in this feeling of disappointment?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So I don't really want to ask about any particular moves but just about your overall enthusiasm. I try to be a pretty positive guy I do realize that we went 3 and 13 with these guys last season. And collapsed the second half of the Season before.

    That being said even though I realize that coach Pettine was not anybody's first choice, I like the guy and his attitude and his play like a Brown mantra. I liked Ray Farmer and his experience. I was excited about the background that Mike Holmgren brought to the team. I was excited about Hometown boy Rob Chudzinski

    Now I realize the NFL is falling over themselves to praise Hue Jackson.

    Maybe it's partially because I hate the Bengals, maybe it's partially because I'm not choked up by some dipshit attorney in charge of the roster, maybe partially because so far I don't have any faith in this Analytics scam with a baseball jag off at the helm, and maybe it's because I have a hard time getting behind a stupid Tennessee Hillbillies wife calling the shots but I'm finding it harder to be excited over this year's biannual remake.

    I don't mean to be a negative dickhead like a lot of the guys here and I will do my best to cheer up, make excuses for our guys and hope for the best but am I alone in this feeling of disappointment?

    WSS

    i don't think you are being negative, i think you are being realistic...i don't believe in this analytic crap either...as far as hue jackson goes, he's going to have to prove himself...plain and simple...more importantly, he's going to have to surround himself with some really good assistant coaches to help him out...every winning coach has done that....I think we are quite aways from even having a winning season let alone making the playoffs..we are in the "we are 2yrs away from being 2yrs away mode right now....no good fa's want to come here..its been that way forever...its going to be up to the draft or next several drafts to development hopefully good players to turn this shit around, then we might get some decent fa's...all i see right now are good players leaving because in my opinion, they are sick and tired of losing and can't see the light at the end of an endless tunnel.

  • I'm disappointed, but I'm not aiming it at the Browns' FO. I think the Schwartz situation could have been handled better, but if it's true that he took less money to play elsewhere, then he can go fuck himself.

    I just want something to get excited about, you know? Give me something positive. Ok maybe we lost these guys, but the team will be better in *blank* area. I don't know.

    Patience. Patience.

  • The dark age is upon us....

    I know you guys think well yeah, thats whst its been for a few years now. But we havent seen anything. This tesm is going into the tank for the next 5-7 years. Unfortunatrly it has to happen. Maybe we'll see something on the other dide

  • Losing mentality of players leaving the building? Maybe? *clutching at straws*

  • The only 1 that bothers me is mitchell, mack everyone knew would leave -benji can be replaced-gibson not that big of deal. To me it all depends on what they bring in.

    I got this gut feeling browns may package manziel and thomas to denver.

  • @westside-steve said:

    So I don't really want to ask about any particular moves but just about your overall enthusiasm. I try to be a pretty positive guy I do realize that we went 3 and 13 with these guys last season. And collapsed the second half of the Season before.

    That being said even though I realize that coach Pettine was not anybody's first choice, I like the guy and his attitude and his play like a Brown mantra. I liked Ray Farmer and his experience. I was excited about the background that Mike Holmgren brought to the team. I was excited about Hometown boy Rob Chudzinski

    Now I realize the NFL is falling over themselves to praise Hue Jackson.

    Maybe it's partially because I hate the Bengals, maybe it's partially because I'm not choked up by some dipshit attorney in charge of the roster, maybe partially because so far I don't have any faith in this Analytics scam with a baseball jag off at the helm, and maybe it's because I have a hard time getting behind a stupid Tennessee Hillbillies wife calling the shots but I'm finding it harder to be excited over this year's biannual remake.

    I don't mean to be a negative dickhead like a lot of the guys here and I will do my best to cheer up, make excuses for our guys and hope for the best but am I alone in this feeling of disappointment?

    WSS

    i don't think you are being negative, i think you are being realistic...i don't believe in this analytic crap either...as far as hue jackson goes, he's going to have to prove himself...plain and simple...more importantly, he's going to have to surround himself with some really good assistant coaches to help him out...every winning coach has done that....I think we are quite aways from even having a winning season let alone making the playoffs..we are in the "we are 2yrs away from being 2yrs away mode right now....no good fa's want to come here..its been that way forever...its going to be up to the draft or next several drafts to development hopefully good players to turn this shit around, then we might get some decent fa's...all i see right now are good players leaving because in my opinion, they are sick and tired of losing and can't see the light at the end of an endless tunnel.

    @browns52 said:

    tired of losing and can't see the light at the end of an endless tunnel.

    Will the last one to leave Cleveland please turn out the light at the end of the tunnel. ...........................Sorry could not resist using an old joke we used in Vietnam. 😆

  • As opposed to the last 5-7 years?

  • *Spoiler*

    We don't do anything of significance in FA in relation to what we lost because this is a terrible organization and nobody wants to come here and put their career in the hands of morons, not even Hue can win them over. We'll draft Wentz/Goff, they'll be a bust because this QB class sucks but we'll pick one out of desperation, Ramsey/Bosa will go on to make the pro bowl every year for the next decade.

    It brings me no joy saying any of that but it's the truth.

  • The dark age is upon us....

    I know you guys think well yeah, thats whst its been for a few years now. But we havent seen anything. This tesm is going into the tank for the next 5-7 years. Unfortunatrly it has to happen. Maybe we'll see something on the other dide

    @clevfan4life said:

    I know you guys think well yeah, thats whst its been for a few years now. But we havent seen anything. This tesm is going into the tank for the next 5-7 years. Unfortunatrly it has to happen. Maybe we'll see something on the other dide

  • *Spoiler*

    We don't do anything of significance in FA in relation to what we lost because this is a terrible organization and nobody wants to come here and put their career in the hands of morons, not even Hue can win them over. We'll draft Wentz/Goff, they'll be a bust because this QB class sucks but we'll pick one out of desperation, Ramsey/Bosa will go on to make the pro bowl every year for the next decade.

    It brings me no joy saying any of that but it's the truth.

    @billmurray said:

    It brings me no joy saying any of that but it's the truth.

    Keep a good thought...

  • Wrong clip...

  • Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

  • Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    @taco918 said:

    Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

  • @taco918 said:

    Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    @billmurray said:

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    Not sure I agree with any of those. Mack is declining(or has been the last couple of seasons). Gipson has too many injuries. Schwartz: how many times have we all complained about his blocking. Agree with the assessment of Benjamin, but he is wayyy to short and we can pick up a taller receiver in the draft, especially with Gordon coming back.

  • @taco918 said:

    Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    @billmurray said:

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    Yeah it if wasn't for those guys we would have been 2-14 and not 3-13.

  • @taco918 said:

    Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    @billmurray said:

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    That pro bowl caliber center and good young safety wanted out. It takes two to make a deal. We can't force them to stay. Our very good RT got caught trying to two time us to get a better deal, our FO actually has a sliver of pride (something those of you wining completely lack) and pulled the deal. They weren't going to tolerate being played. How that is viewed by some as unacceptable is beyond crazy. Our leading WR had one okay year and is now being severely overpaid.

    What you and your butthurt compadres are doing is compleyely ignoring the reasons why we lost those four so you can bitch, whine and complain. It makes no sense to me, but then again, I'm not completely governed by my emotions and am actually capable of using logic.

  • Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    @taco918 said:

    Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    Quite possibly the most original dis I've read. 😎

  • @taco918 said:

    Good lord, we lost four damn players and everyone is acting like we've all contracted super AIDS or something. Every single one of you who is bitching and moaning are infinity more depressing than the Browns right now. If you all are so butthurt over this, pick up a new hobby. Maybe you can get into amateur prosthetics so you can make something resembling the testicles each and everyone of you lack.

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    @billmurray said:

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    The center didn't want to be here, the safety didn't want to be here, the RT tried to play us off other teams and "our leading WR" is nothing more than a situational guy on 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL.

    Jesus Christ, stop glorifying these players.

    People will forget the name Travis Benjamin in three years.

  • If you want to stay positive then don't read ESPN, Bleacher Report or any other sports site. Everything is negative. Some of the articles claim that Brown and De Podesta were no where to be found and were wondering if the Front Office was aware that Free Agency has started. It's this kind of negativity that's written about the Browns organization that scares players away!

    I know they have a track record that speaks for itself. But I still have hope. On draft day I will be watching.

  • @billmurray said:

    We were already super AIDS before we lost a pro bowl caliber center, very good RT, a good young safety, and our leading WR.

    The center didn't want to be here, the safety didn't want to be here, the RT tried to play us off other teams and "our leading WR" is nothing more than a situational guy on 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL.

    Jesus Christ, stop glorifying these players.

    People will forget the name Travis Benjamin in three years.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The center didn't want to be here, the safety didn't want to be here, the RT tried to play us off other teams and "our leading WR" is nothing more than a situational guy on 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL.

    Jesus Christ, stop glorifying these players.

    People will forget the name Travis Benjamin in three years.

    But we were trying to get to 4-12 with these hall of famers!