The Cleveland Browns are okay
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It's FA time and every team wants some action. There's crazy money this year and teams are over paying. Brock O. gets 37 mil guaranteed? That's crazy he's done nothing to get that kind of dough. Just an example of teams overspending.
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The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions.
We lost a couple good/great players to FA.
Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex.
Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off.
Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic.
We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along.
Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all..
Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson.
Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well.
We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions.
Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well.
The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions.
We lost a couple good/great players to FA.
Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex.
Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off.
Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic.
We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along.
Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all..
Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson.
Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well.
We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions.
Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well.
Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
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The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions.
We lost a couple good/great players to FA.
Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex.
Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off.
Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic.
We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along.
Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all..
Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson.
Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well.
We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions.
Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well.
Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit.
And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing.
Wow.
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The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions.
We lost a couple good/great players to FA.
Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex.
Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off.
Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic.
We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along.
Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all..
Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson.
Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well.
We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions.
Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well.
Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
And Bradley Roby to boot.
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Mr. Haslam....please stay off the Browns board, at least until after the draft. You have more important things to do.
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Wow!....I never experienced laughing, puking and crying at the same time before.
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Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point.
You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit.
And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing.
Wow.
You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit.
And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing.
Wow.
what i think he's saying is PoG is blind to what is happening around him. staying in a house that is burning up around you.
i like Po's post except for the manziel love, but we all knew that was coming.
if this is a rebuild then i hope haslam and the fans know this shit doesn't happen overnite. maybe three years from now we might see some upward movements from a smart and dead on draft this year.
hope haslam has the patience cuz it's been 2 and done up to this point for a regime.
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This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that.
once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy -
This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that.
This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that.
Someone else said, this is like an expansion team now, more or less. We're not getting close to the playoffs any time soon, but hopefully we are going to build the right way, or this will be extremely bad!
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We should have a ton of cap space available as well ^ on top of all of that ^
Does anyone know the number on where we sit in terms of cap space available as of today? We have to be top 3 in the league.
We should have a ton of cap space available as well ^ on top of all of that ^
Does anyone know the number on where we sit in terms of cap space available as of today? We have to be top 3 in the league.
Is there a cap minimum?
That's the only number we need to be concerned with.
Zombo
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You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit.
And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing.
Wow.
what i think he's saying is PoG is blind to what is happening around him. staying in a house that is burning up around you.
i like Po's post except for the manziel love, but we all knew that was coming.
if this is a rebuild then i hope haslam and the fans know this shit doesn't happen overnite. maybe three years from now we might see some upward movements from a smart and dead on draft this year.
hope haslam has the patience cuz it's been 2 and done up to this point for a regime.
i like Po's post except for the manziel love, but we all knew that was coming.
Did try to slip it past us tho... lil' fella just couldn't help himself...
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Zombo said:
Is there a cap minimum?
That's the only number we need to be concerned with.
Zombo
Yes. Not sure what it is.
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Zombo said:
Is there a cap minimum?
That's the only number we need to be concerned with.
Zombo
Yes. Not sure what it is.
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Well good, bad or indifferent you have to admit the Browns find unique ways to provide year round entertainment.
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Zombo said:
Is there a cap minimum?
That's the only number we need to be concerned with.
Zombo
I thought it was like 89% of the cap maximum.
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This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that.
This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that.
Andy, good to see a post from you & I agree.
Mike
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Zombo said:
Is there a cap minimum?
That's the only number we need to be concerned with.
Zombo
I thought it was like 89% of the cap maximum.
I thought it was like 89% of the cap maximum.
Averaged out over a four year period.
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I stopped at,"then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year".........LMAO !
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