Jonathan Paul Manziel
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UFC and conspiracy theories. you must be a blast at parties.
not.
mik it's ok if you wanna act publicly like what i shared by pm with you last time you spoke up didn't open your eyes a lil. it's also ok if you don't realize the magnitude of what an assertion of federal power like this means to America based upon the lack of mainstream news on the incident.
summary: man and passengers inform state police they are proceeding to a prearranged meeting with the Sheriff. in a section of highway with no cell coverage they come upon a bad intentioned surprise roadblock after a big turn in the road (following several long straightstretches more appropriate for aforementioned roadblock) as shots are fired at the moving vehicle, and upon averting collision slamming into a snowbank an L sweep ambush formation comes out of the woods and shoots a man with his hands high in the air.
a man who is known to carry a revolver who doesnt reach for a weapon is shot with his hands high in the air, while exiting and stepping away from his vehicle filled w his passengers drawing potential gunfire away from them repeatedly pleading "shoot ME". shit would certainly hit the fan if his revolver is not on him but thankfully for you mik a loaded 9mm semi auto is found near his person as he lay dead in the street (snow).
watch the cell phone video taken during the chase...and cringe.
comments on this video page were disabled a few hours ago due to all the govt shills being outed. no matter what you say they fucked up. if it wasn't premeditated homicide, it was at minimum gross negligence.
regardless of his reputation the man was shot unarmed and denied due process. being a vet you of all people should actually care about this one if there's even a remote possibility of truth to it. i get that this is a Browns Board but everyone deserves due process. EVERYONE. it's what vets fight/fought for. i don't care if he wanted to start a revolution in a pink bra married to his sister, Lavoy deserved better than this.
mik it's ok if you wanna act publicly like what i shared by pm with you last time you spoke up didn't open your eyes a lil. it's also ok if you don't realize the magnitude of what an assertion of federal power like this means to America based upon the lack of mainstream news on the incident.
summary: man and passengers inform state police they are proceeding to a prearranged meeting with the Sheriff. in a section of highway with no cell coverage they come upon a bad intentioned surprise roadblock after a big turn in the road (following several long straightstretches more appropriate for aforementioned roadblock) as shots are fired at the moving vehicle, and upon averting collision slamming into a snowbank an L sweep ambush formation comes out of the woods and shoots a man with his hands high in the air.
a man who is known to carry a revolver who doesnt reach for a weapon is shot with his hands high in the air, while exiting and stepping away from his vehicle filled w his passengers drawing potential gunfire away from them repeatedly pleading "shoot ME". shit would certainly hit the fan if his revolver is not on him but thankfully for you mik a loaded 9mm semi auto is found near his person as he lay dead in the street (snow).
watch the cell phone video taken during the chase...and cringe.
comments on this video page were disabled a few hours ago due to all the govt shills being outed. no matter what you say they fucked up. if it wasn't premeditated homicide, it was at minimum gross negligence.
regardless of his reputation the man was shot unarmed and denied due process. being a vet you of all people should actually care about this one if there's even a remote possibility of truth to it. i get that this is a Browns Board but everyone deserves due process. EVERYONE. it's what vets fight/fought for. i don't care if he wanted to start a revolution in a pink bra married to his sister, Lavoy deserved better than this.
What the fuck does this have to do with football? Get this shit off of here.
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The punk Jonny Rotten is gone now and for what he has intentionally done to the team and fans, curse him and his liquor. I hope the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.
I respect that it's required of the Browns to have a new QB and new coaching staff every year, and that Manziel is under a microscope there in Cleveland. Please forgive me in that I'm somewhat of an outsider who saw him play quite well in spite of being on a very bad team. He doesn't even have 16 starts yet. He is still a rookie and statistically, in his 15 games, he played very well for a rookie QB on a terrible team in a tough division.
One example: CLE at PIT - November 15, 2015.
Browns have no running game at all. 14 rushing attempts for a total of 15 yards.
- Manziel rushed for 11 of those 15 yards.
- Manziel has 45 attempts with 33 completions for 372 yards with a 95.8 QB rating.
- Manziel is sacked 6 times for 45 yards lost via sack due to no running game (which makes his 45 attempts 51 drop-backs.)
CLE committed 12 penalties for 188 yards.
The final score was CLE 9 - PIT 30.
Landry Jones started for PIT, and if the QB's were switched and Manziel started for PIT, the score would still be the same.
If Roethlisberger started for CLE, and Manziel for PIT, the Browns still would have lost.
The fact is, we saw a lot of backups play quite a bit of football this season and the worst I saw was Landry Jones and Mike Vick. but nobody here in Pittsburgh is , ". . .hoping the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.. . " . . .
Curiously . . . are Manziel and Todd Marinovich the only 2 QB's to ever come out after their sophomore year?
Both had substance abuse and maturity issues in common.
Curiously . . . are Manziel and Todd Marinovich the only 2 QB's to ever come out after their sophomore year?
Both had substance abuse and maturity issues in common.
Im pretty sure Manziel was a redshirt his freshman year, meaning he actually had completed his junior year when drafted.....some aggie fans can correct me, if wrong....but Id think there are a lot of guys who redshirted, played 2 years, then entered the draft....
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The punk Jonny Rotten is gone now and for what he has intentionally done to the team and fans, curse him and his liquor. I hope the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.
I respect that it's required of the Browns to have a new QB and new coaching staff every year, and that Manziel is under a microscope there in Cleveland. Please forgive me in that I'm somewhat of an outsider who saw him play quite well in spite of being on a very bad team. He doesn't even have 16 starts yet. He is still a rookie and statistically, in his 15 games, he played very well for a rookie QB on a terrible team in a tough division.
One example: CLE at PIT - November 15, 2015.
Browns have no running game at all. 14 rushing attempts for a total of 15 yards.
- Manziel rushed for 11 of those 15 yards.
- Manziel has 45 attempts with 33 completions for 372 yards with a 95.8 QB rating.
- Manziel is sacked 6 times for 45 yards lost via sack due to no running game (which makes his 45 attempts 51 drop-backs.)
CLE committed 12 penalties for 188 yards.
The final score was CLE 9 - PIT 30.
Landry Jones started for PIT, and if the QB's were switched and Manziel started for PIT, the score would still be the same.
If Roethlisberger started for CLE, and Manziel for PIT, the Browns still would have lost.
The fact is, we saw a lot of backups play quite a bit of football this season and the worst I saw was Landry Jones and Mike Vick. but nobody here in Pittsburgh is , ". . .hoping the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.. . " . . .
Curiously . . . are Manziel and Todd Marinovich the only 2 QB's to ever come out after their sophomore year?
Both had substance abuse and maturity issues in common.
Dick until these issues get sorted out, you can wipe your ass with his stats.Both had substance abuse and maturity issues in common.
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mik it's ok if you wanna act publicly like what i shared by pm with you last time you spoke up didn't open your eyes a lil. it's also ok if you don't realize the magnitude of what an assertion of federal power like this means to America based upon the lack of mainstream news on the incident.
summary: man and passengers inform state police they are proceeding to a prearranged meeting with the Sheriff. in a section of highway with no cell coverage they come upon a bad intentioned surprise roadblock after a big turn in the road (following several long straightstretches more appropriate for aforementioned roadblock) as shots are fired at the moving vehicle, and upon averting collision slamming into a snowbank an L sweep ambush formation comes out of the woods and shoots a man with his hands high in the air.
a man who is known to carry a revolver who doesnt reach for a weapon is shot with his hands high in the air, while exiting and stepping away from his vehicle filled w his passengers drawing potential gunfire away from them repeatedly pleading "shoot ME". shit would certainly hit the fan if his revolver is not on him but thankfully for you mik a loaded 9mm semi auto is found near his person as he lay dead in the street (snow).
watch the cell phone video taken during the chase...and cringe.
comments on this video page were disabled a few hours ago due to all the govt shills being outed. no matter what you say they fucked up. if it wasn't premeditated homicide, it was at minimum gross negligence.
regardless of his reputation the man was shot unarmed and denied due process. being a vet you of all people should actually care about this one if there's even a remote possibility of truth to it. i get that this is a Browns Board but everyone deserves due process. EVERYONE. it's what vets fight/fought for. i don't care if he wanted to start a revolution in a pink bra married to his sister, Lavoy deserved better than this.
What the fuck does this have to do with football? Get this shit off of here.
What the fuck does this have to do with football? Get this shit off of here.
i won't attempt to relate it Ernie it doesn't. but it is drama and i won't apologize. when a person's constitutional rights get violated and they are denied due process by being murdered unjustifiably in the street in cold blood, it should deem some attention. if only one person has sympathy, it was entitely worth posting.
Z, H, M...(mods) it's your Board and you can move it if you please but in the meantime Ernie or anyone else it's your right to call it shit and ignore it. in which case you exemplify the very apathy that is such a huge part of why are losing our country. this isn't a guilt trip. this isn't normal news. in fact it's an incident that's not even being reported.
wanna execute me for piggybacking off Johnny Drama? i did it, yes i took liberties. no i don't think i'm special. i just think this one time it was worth it.
no one woulda seen it in the barbershop or wherever. is it really gonna kill ya to read something irrelevant to the Browns for 20 seconds?
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The punk Jonny Rotten is gone now and for what he has intentionally done to the team and fans, curse him and his liquor. I hope the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.
I respect that it's required of the Browns to have a new QB and new coaching staff every year, and that Manziel is under a microscope there in Cleveland. Please forgive me in that I'm somewhat of an outsider who saw him play quite well in spite of being on a very bad team. He doesn't even have 16 starts yet. He is still a rookie and statistically, in his 15 games, he played very well for a rookie QB on a terrible team in a tough division.
One example: CLE at PIT - November 15, 2015.
Browns have no running game at all. 14 rushing attempts for a total of 15 yards.
- Manziel rushed for 11 of those 15 yards.
- Manziel has 45 attempts with 33 completions for 372 yards with a 95.8 QB rating.
- Manziel is sacked 6 times for 45 yards lost via sack due to no running game (which makes his 45 attempts 51 drop-backs.)
CLE committed 12 penalties for 188 yards.
The final score was CLE 9 - PIT 30.
Landry Jones started for PIT, and if the QB's were switched and Manziel started for PIT, the score would still be the same.
If Roethlisberger started for CLE, and Manziel for PIT, the Browns still would have lost.
The fact is, we saw a lot of backups play quite a bit of football this season and the worst I saw was Landry Jones and Mike Vick. but nobody here in Pittsburgh is , ". . .hoping the cocksucker chokes to death on a tequila worm and his stinking remains flushed into a sewer that empties into the Rio Grande.. . " . . .
Curiously . . . are Manziel and Todd Marinovich the only 2 QB's to ever come out after their sophomore year?
Both had substance abuse and maturity issues in common.
I respect that it's required of the Browns to have a new QB and new coaching staff every year, and that Manziel is under a microscope there in Cleveland. Please forgive me in that I'm somewhat of an outsider who saw him play quite well in spite of being on a very bad team. He doesn't even have 16 starts yet. He is still a rookie and statistically, in his 15 games, he played very well for a rookie QB on a terrible team in a tough division.
One example: CLE at PIT - November 15, 2015.
Browns have no running game at all. 14 rushing attempts for a total of 15 yards.
- Manziel rushed for 11 of those 15 yards.
- Manziel has 45 attempts with 33 completions for 372 yards with a 95.8 QB rating.
- Manziel is sacked 6 times for 45 yards lost via sack due to no running game (which makes his 45 attempts 51 drop-backs.)
CLE committed 12 penalties for 188 yards.
The final score was CLE 9 - PIT 30.
Also 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 fumble lost... and JM's complete rushing line was 3 attempts for 17 yds... 11 yds was his longest run.
One last stat: Passing Yds per attempt = 8.27
Step back... look... and see the complete picture...
The Steelers played soft zones over controlled rushes with spies galore.
Said in effect, "Son... beat us with your arm if you can, but you will not do so with your legs."
The blueprint was complete...
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What the fuck does this have to do with football? Get this shit off of here.
i won't attempt to relate it Ernie it doesn't. but it is drama and i won't apologize. when a person's constitutional rights get violated and they are denied due process by being murdered unjustifiably in the street in cold blood, it should deem some attention. if only one person has sympathy, it was entitely worth posting.
Z, H, M...(mods) it's your Board and you can move it if you please but in the meantime Ernie or anyone else it's your right to call it shit and ignore it. in which case you exemplify the very apathy that is such a huge part of why are losing our country. this isn't a guilt trip. this isn't normal news. in fact it's an incident that's not even being reported.
wanna execute me for piggybacking off Johnny Drama? i did it, yes i took liberties. no i don't think i'm special. i just think this one time it was worth it.
no one woulda seen it in the barbershop or wherever. is it really gonna kill ya to read something irrelevant to the Browns for 20 seconds?
i won't attempt to relate it Ernie it doesn't. but it is drama and i won't apologize. when a person's constitutional rights get violated and they are denied due process by being murdered unjustifiably in the street in cold blood, it should deem some attention. if only one person has sympathy, it was entitely worth posting.
Z, H, M...(mods) it's your Board and you can move it if you please but in the meantime Ernie or anyone else it's your right to call it shit and ignore it. in which case you exemplify the very apathy that is such a huge part of why are losing our country. this isn't a guilt trip. this isn't normal news. in fact it's an incident that's not even being reported.
wanna execute me for piggybacking off Johnny Drama? i did it, yes i took liberties. no i don't think i'm special. i just think this one time it was worth it.
no one woulda seen it in the barbershop or wherever. is it really gonna kill ya to read something irrelevant to the Browns for 20 seconds?
I'll be honest, Mik had no reason to attack you, and bringing up the Oregon situation has no business in the Browns forum. Barbershop or Political forum are the proper places. I almost deleted all references to it but I let it stand- because even though unrelated, it was newsworthy, regardless of your position on it. I'm not taking sides, just pointing out how I see things. FWIW, I can't move individual posts, only move entire topics, and I certainly wasn't going to move this one.
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No one picks him up. He cleared waivers and is now a free agent.
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wooooow. That's impressive
Now someone go read all 762 pages and find out who thought this was a good idea
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
wooooow. That's impressive
Now someone go read all 762 pages and find out who thought this was a good idea
wooooow. That's impressive
Now someone go read all 762 pages and find out who thought this was a good idea
My first post was that he'd be a good pro but a durability concern.
I didn't mean showing up wasted to practice and flying to Vegas the day before gameday ... but no one ever predicts what the franchise delivers.
Enjoy the ride on this next phase ... it will be a lot of things ... but not what you think.
Z
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that was beautiful
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Zombo said:
Sad thing Z, if he had Peyton Manning's dedication to the game, he might have made it, those highlights show a guy who has some talent. Until he gets the off-field Johnny under control- he's toast as far as the NFL is concerned.
PS must have taken you a good amount of time to merge all those threads.
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Well balanced Z. Johnny Alcohol 28 - Johnny Football 10. For him personally we can only hope he pulls that game out in the 4th quarter.
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I was one of the ones who was excited about the Browns drafting Manziel. There were red flags some saw though such as his mechanics, lack of size and style of football that might not translate well into the NFL. I just saw us getting a Heisman trophy winning QB who was exciting. I never watched too much of Manziel in college but did see him play in some of the bigger games like when he led A& M over Alabama.
My excitement went way down when the photos came out of him with the rolled up bill in the restroom and drunk riding on the inflatable swan. My doubts were confirmed with his wasted rookie season. I got a little optimistic when he went to rehab and in the first game when he came in after Josh got hurt I saw a different QB than the one who came in the Cincy game and started getting optimistic about JM again. Later when it came out he had been drinking I knew it was going to be bad. You cannot go months in rehab and start drinking again. It never works. Some thought his drinking was minor at the time which for most would be but not someone who has a huge problem with drinking and just got out of rehab.
Where does Manziel go from here? The CFL, Arena football or a reality tv show? I don't wish him any ill will and hope he can get himself back into rehab and start over. It was our fault we drafted him and the people getting paid the big bucks should have scouted him better.
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I was one of the ones who was excited about the Browns drafting Manziel. There were red flags some saw though such as his mechanics, lack of size and style of football that might not translate well into the NFL. I just saw us getting a Heisman trophy winning QB who was exciting. I never watched too much of Manziel in college but did see him play in some of the bigger games like when he led A& M over Alabama.
My excitement went way down when the photos came out of him with the rolled up bill in the restroom and drunk riding on the inflatable swan. My doubts were confirmed with his wasted rookie season. I got a little optimistic when he went to rehab and in the first game when he came in after Josh got hurt I saw a different QB than the one who came in the Cincy game and started getting optimistic about JM again. Later when it came out he had been drinking I knew it was going to be bad. You cannot go months in rehab and start drinking again. It never works. Some thought his drinking was minor at the time which for most would be but not someone who has a huge problem with drinking and just got out of rehab.
Where does Manziel go from here? The CFL, Arena football or a reality tv show? I don't wish him any ill will and hope he can get himself back into rehab and start over. It was our fault we drafted him and the people getting paid the big bucks should have scouted him better.
I was one of the ones who was excited about the Browns drafting Manziel. There were red flags some saw though such as his mechanics, lack of size and style of football that might not translate well into the NFL. I just saw us getting a Heisman trophy winning QB who was exciting. I never watched too much of Manziel in college but did see him play in some of the bigger games like when he led A& M over Alabama.
My excitement went way down when the photos came out of him with the rolled up bill in the restroom and drunk riding on the inflatable swan. My doubts were confirmed with his wasted rookie season. I got a little optimistic when he went to rehab and in the first game when he came in after Josh got hurt I saw a different QB than the one who came in the Cincy game and started getting optimistic about JM again. Later when it came out he had been drinking I knew it was going to be bad. You cannot go months in rehab and start drinking again. It never works. Some thought his drinking was minor at the time which for most would be but not someone who has a huge problem with drinking and just got out of rehab.
Where does Manziel go from here? The CFL, Arena football or a reality tv show? I don't wish him any ill will and hope he can get himself back into rehab and start over. It was our fault we drafted him and the people getting paid the big bucks should have scouted him better.
Look, we're fans so our inner chest has a tendency to intercept our reasoning under the dome. The QB position in the NFL doesn't flip on and off like a light switch for someone that prioritizes partying and nightlife throughout the work week today.
OBF, the 1 thing that excites me about a new mind set in our front office is this one seems like it will seriously count OUR history here as it prepares to set the compass forward. Other regimes had too big of egos getting in the way thinking OUR recent history was anything pertinent to their walk/tenure. They always had the pompous we know a little more about this stuff than fans do before we went ahead and hired a sissy like Pat Shurmur. Holmgren slept in later than Barnabus Collins (he was a vampire for any of our younger fans here).
While Jimmy has made as many rookie mistakes as Eddie DeBartolo made early on in SF - he's just as competitive in the unwillingness to give up. What he did for to land the rock star Head Coaching candidate reminds me of what he did to intercept a Manning family tradition at Ole Miss. For those that think Haslam isn't one to care about the football program he follows/owns - guess whose private jet picked up Peyton Manning on behalf of the UT boosters for an initial campus visit that finished the job? I also like that every time our season ended in disappointment - he said the blame starts with me. EVERY time Farmer showed me an inability to acknowledge his mistakes - I understood why he could never stop making mistakes. I'm ecstatic Jimmy understood Farmer was a mistake. I think he knows Farmer also destroyed any shot of Pettine getting back some of the guys he lost in the locker room due to never ending frustration of Farmer. 2 things I will always remember about Pettine, he inherited the chaos of 2013 plus a Josh Gordon suspension that was supposed to be a full year and started this team off 7-4 in 2014. That's as close to somebody walking on Lake Erie as I've seen. The 2nd thing is he's the one that got Manziel to not only go to treatment but to take it seriously enough to have it work for the short duration it did. In the end, he needed to go for his own sake as much as our's. The reason he never wanted Manziel is because he knew the inevitable outcome far better than Farmer. Farmer was so bad, I almost found myself saying I miss Banner and that ain't good.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
wooooow. That's impressive
Now someone go read all 762 pages and find out who thought this was a good idea
wooooow. That's impressive
Now someone go read all 762 pages and find out who thought this was a good idea
I was against it from the beginning. Showed some flashes this year that maybe he could do it but clearly would rather party than be a football player. Too bad for him.
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