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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

    Yeah I don't see how anyone is shocked. The guy is in his mid 30s and the direction of the FO seems to be towards going with youth.

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

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        Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        @gftchris said:

        Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

        What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him?

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          well, the status quo has to change, and come older, expensive players have

          played tough for us, but they have to have lost a step.

          If they can be replaced by a younger, faster player for a lot less money...

          it makes sense. You just have to bring in the right players, who love the game,

          and are hungry to win.

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            Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

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            OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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            @tour2ma said:

            Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

            @logicisforsquares said:

            Yeah I don't see how anyone is shocked. The guy is in his mid 30s and the direction of the FO seems to be towards going with youth.

            My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

            Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded.

            My biggest hope is that the analytics department in Berea has been able to show Haslam that the players THEY (not Farmer and Pettine both who ignored the analytics) would've picked the past two years have turned out to be successful. If this is the case, I'd be more optimistic that the new FO knows how to draft.

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              Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by
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              Another overrated (good, but overrated) player on a bad defense. He's going to be 35 in November. Can't say I'm shocked. But I think ILB just became a huge priority in draft and there are some talented Day 2 guys.

              Plus Myles Jack.....

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.

                But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS

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                I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at

                where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline

                together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.

                You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,

                or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up

                without matching.

                The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in

                that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,

                because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not

                good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.

                Say it ain't so, Joe !

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                  Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.

                  But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                  Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS

                  *****************************

                  I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at

                  where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline

                  together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.

                  You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,

                  or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up

                  without matching.

                  The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in

                  that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,

                  because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not

                  good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.

                  Say it ain't so, Joe !

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                  OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.

                  But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                  Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS

                  *****************************

                  I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at

                  where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline

                  together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.

                  The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in

                  that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,

                  because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not

                  good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.

                  Say it ain't so, Joe !

                  I'd be disappointed, but not shocked. They almost traded him last season, and if they really are in full rebuild mode, he's the only player on the roster that would net a first-round pick in trade. I don't WANT this to happen, just think it is possible that it will.

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                    Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.

                    But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                    Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS

                    *****************************

                    I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at

                    where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline

                    together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.

                    You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,

                    or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up

                    without matching.

                    The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in

                    that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,

                    because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not

                    good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.

                    Say it ain't so, Joe !

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.

                    But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                    Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS

                    *****************************

                    I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at

                    where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline

                    together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.

                    You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,

                    or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up

                    without matching.

                    The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in

                    that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,

                    because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not

                    good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.

                    Say it ain't so, Joe !

                    The Browns QBs were already taking a beating. I won't be shocked if they try to move him to get more draft picks.

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                      darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                      Joe Thomas must be thinking get me the fuck out of here .......

                      Haden next

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        Yeah I don't see how anyone is shocked. The guy is in his mid 30s and the direction of the FO seems to be towards going with youth.

                        My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                        Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded.

                        My biggest hope is that the analytics department in Berea has been able to show Haslam that the players THEY (not Farmer and Pettine both who ignored the analytics) would've picked the past two years have turned out to be successful. If this is the case, I'd be more optimistic that the new FO knows how to draft.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @osiris said:

                        My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                        Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded.

                        You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's...

                        @mike-h said:

                        Another overrated (good, but overrated) player on a bad defense. He's going to be 35 in November. Can't say I'm shocked. But I think ILB just became a huge priority in draft and there are some talented Day 2 guys..

                        Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

                          What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him?

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                          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him?

                          Compare his statistics to that of, say, Brian Urlachers.

                          Dansby has always been an upper-echelon LBer, in my eyes.

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                            Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner.

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                              @osiris said:

                              My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.

                              Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded.

                              You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's...

                              @mike-h said:

                              Another overrated (good, but overrated) player on a bad defense. He's going to be 35 in November. Can't say I'm shocked. But I think ILB just became a huge priority in draft and there are some talented Day 2 guys..

                              Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged.

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                              Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's...

                              Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged.

                              I don't believe they are comfortable with Kirksey -- a guy they didnt pick -- Davis, and Tank Carder as their corps ILB group to build around.

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                                Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner.

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                                Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner.

                                Add Joe Haden and then the purge will be complete. The only problem is the cap penalty for releasing him, and the fact no one would take his contract in a trade.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  but that was over the RG position, and gaps right of center. Almost never,

                                  because of tackle play on either side. Except for when Cam Irving went in

                                  at LG I think it was.

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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner.

                                    Add Joe Haden and then the purge will be complete. The only problem is the cap penalty for releasing him, and the fact no one would take his contract in a trade.

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                                    @mike-h said:

                                    Add Joe Haden and then the purge will be complete. The only problem is the cap penalty for releasing him, and the fact no one would take his contract in a trade.

                                    eh not so sure. I think now is the time obviously to trade him. I think he has some value. Wait another year or so and he's another 1-2 concussions deep into the protocol than obviously no

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                                    • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                      Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

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                                      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?

                                      No kidding. I read it on Yahoo and came here knowing that the sky would be falling. 😉

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's...

                                        Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged.

                                        I don't believe they are comfortable with Kirksey -- a guy they didnt pick -- Davis, and Tank Carder as their corps ILB group to build around.

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                                        @mike-h said:

                                        I don't believe they are comfortable with Kirksey -- a guy they didnt pick -- Davis, and Tank Carder as their corps ILB group to build around.

                                        Comfortable? No... agree they are not comfortable.

                                        As I have said forever, a 3-4's strength has to be it's LB corps. Ours clearly was not and still is not.

                                        Just saying the change after swapping Davis for Dansby is not significant.

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                                          Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.

                                          Well Denver released 33 y.o. TE Owen Daniels and no one has claimed him either. It's a business.

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