Browns release Dansby.
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who knows, maybe Pettine was a bigger cocksucker than we knew. It seems like the Chud firing miffed a lot of players more than was let on.
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The mystery continues
No mystery- it's a full nuclear detonation of the roster.
Thing is- if it's a total rebuild, it shouldn't take 5 years to get it done.
Will the fans stand for 0-16, because it looks like that's where we're headed. I'm calling it our slogan for this year. 0-16 for 2016.
No mystery- it's a full nuclear detonation of the roster.
Thing is- if it's a total rebuild, it shouldn't take 5 years to get it done.
Will the fans stand for 0-16, because it looks like that's where we're headed. I'm calling it our slogan for this year. 0-16 for 2016.
the sad thing is that even with rookies and cast offs, they could still end up winning as many games as they did this year.
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No mystery- it's a full nuclear detonation of the roster.
Thing is- if it's a total rebuild, it shouldn't take 5 years to get it done.
Will the fans stand for 0-16, because it looks like that's where we're headed. I'm calling it our slogan for this year. 0-16 for 2016.
the sad thing is that even with rookies and cast offs, they could still end up winning as many games as they did this year.
the sad thing is that even with rookies and cast offs, they could still end up winning as many games as they did this year.
agreed..........
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gtfo....man o man....
hey mud, there you are..wonderin where you have been on the music site....dansby...eh....i had him on my fantasy league a few yrs ago and he did well...he is getting older and really, he is not an impact hard hitting lb...we need a hard nosed lb...actually several of them... just my opinion..still a mystery why we let dq get away...
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What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him?
Compare his statistics to that of, say, Brian Urlachers.
Dansby has always been an upper-echelon LBer, in my eyes.
Compare his statistics to that of, say, Brian Urlachers.
Dansby has always been an upper-echelon LBer, in my eyes.
I think our FO believes that "been" is the operative term in your statement.
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Well, I think we knew that they were talking about getting rid of their older players.
Dansby and Whitner both fell off last year. They must think that they can do as well at MLB with the two guys they signed, Davis/Tuggle, as they could with Dansby and Robertson....and they may be right.
MLB = Major League Baseball?
MLB = Major League Baseball?
Middle Linebacker.
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Dansby said, "A lot of teams are looking for linebackers right now. One of the best guys to ever play the game is on the market. That's the numbers saying it. Not me saying it, it's just the numbers."
Well the Browns should be commended for employing a special needs adult.
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holy shit did he just call himself one of the best ever to play the position? Mother of god now i'm really glad this dude is out the door. I know he had a few pretty decent years but nothing that I would thought compared with Kuechly's last two or so years, and he's not the best ever. Ray Lewis is the best ever. Kuechly may one day equal him, but that's gonna take some years of consistency out of him.
Holy fuck. Yeah take him, anybody. Wanna see what 35 year old LB'er that can't read the run looks like?
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The mystery continues
No mystery- it's a full nuclear detonation of the roster.
Thing is- if it's a total rebuild, it shouldn't take 5 years to get it done.
Will the fans stand for 0-16, because it looks like that's where we're headed. I'm calling it our slogan for this year. 0-16 for 2016.
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holy shit did he just call himself one of the best ever to play the position? Mother of god now i'm really glad this dude is out the door. I know he had a few pretty decent years but nothing that I would thought compared with Kuechly's last two or so years, and he's not the best ever. Ray Lewis is the best ever. Kuechly may one day equal him, but that's gonna take some years of consistency out of him.
Holy fuck. Yeah take him, anybody. Wanna see what 35 year old LB'er that can't read the run looks like?
holy shit did he just call himself one of the best ever to play the position? Mother of god now i'm really glad this dude is out the door. I know he had a few pretty decent years but nothing that I would thought compared with Kuechly's last two or so years, and he's not the best ever. Ray Lewis is the best ever. Kuechly may one day equal him, but that's gonna take some years of consistency out of him.
Holy fuck. Yeah take him, anybody. Wanna see what 35 year old LB'er that can't read the run looks like?
Dick Butkus was the best ever,, I know.. I've seen both play... two different eras of ball.. its not even a foot race to Me.. Dick Butkus was a fucking machine and in our backfield every time Phipps hiked the ball.. Ray Ray was great.. but no dick butkus..They didnt record sacks back then...Im sure Butkuses numbers would be every bit as good if not more than rays.. it was a lot harder to play back in those days..
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Dansby said, "A lot of teams are looking for linebackers right now. One of the best guys to ever play the game is on the market. That's the numbers saying it. Not me saying it, it's just the numbers."
Well the Browns should be commended for employing a special needs adult.
Dansby said, "A lot of teams are looking for linebackers right now. One of the best guys to ever play the game is on the market. That's the numbers saying it. Not me saying it, it's just the numbers."
Well the Browns should be commended for employing a special needs adult.
Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
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Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.
But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.
Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS
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I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at
where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline
together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.
You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,
or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up
without matching.
The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in
that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,
because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not
good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.
Say it ain't so, Joe !
Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.
But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.
Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS
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I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at
where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline
together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.
You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,
or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up
without matching.
The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in
that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,
because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not
good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.
Say it ain't so, Joe !
So we're finally good in, say, 2019 (being optimistic here). JT is 35 years old. He retires. We now have a massive hole at LT and we spent $40+ million dollars from now until then to keep him around instead of letting a rookie learn the positions along with the rest of the very young roster for $10 million. There's no way you can justify keeping Joe Thomas around.
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Dansby said, "A lot of teams are looking for linebackers right now. One of the best guys to ever play the game is on the market. That's the numbers saying it. Not me saying it, it's just the numbers."
Well the Browns should be commended for employing a special needs adult.
Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Yep....by the numbers, he's right there with the best of em.....I just so happen to have them handy too....
Yearly averages......Tkls.......Sacks......FF........FR........Ints........TFL.......TDs
Dansby 101........3.4.........1.5........1.0.......1.5..........13..........6
Keuchly. 147.......1.7..........1.0.......1.0........4.0..........9...........1
Lewis 120.......2.4..........1.0.......1.0........2.0..........3...........3
And....keep in mind that Lewis and Dansby have some "old man" numbers, so Keuchly's avg's may drop if he lasts another 10-12 years......Dansby has them both in some key stats like TFL , Sacks and TD's.....all difference makers
Lewis played 5 years longer than Dansby, yet has less sacks and WAY less TFL's.....in fact, Lewis only had 48 for his entire career, while Dansby already has 81 and counting........
The numbers dont lie......dude has had a tremendous career.....
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Dansby said, "A lot of teams are looking for linebackers right now. One of the best guys to ever play the game is on the market. That's the numbers saying it. Not me saying it, it's just the numbers."
Well the Browns should be commended for employing a special needs adult.
Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Karlos must have had the amazing ability of making his great play look incredibly pedestrian.
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Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Karlos must have had the amazing ability of making his great play look incredibly pedestrian.
Karlos must have had the amazing ability of making his great play look incredibly pedestrian.
I think Dansby was a victim of those around him... On the field , that is...
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There are offensive players that would kill to average 6 TDs per year....
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Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Karlos must have had the amazing ability of making his great play look incredibly pedestrian.
Karlos must have had the amazing ability of making his great play look incredibly pedestrian.
Well he's certainly not an elite run stuffer. But he had a lot of picks.
Mud, I think you forgot to divide Dansby's total touchdowns by his years played. Unless he's actually averaging 6 per year, which would be absurd.
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Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick.
But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode.
Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS
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I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at
where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline
together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here.
You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him,
or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up
without matching.
The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in
that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays,
because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not
good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers.
Say it ain't so, Joe !
So we're finally good in, say, 2019 (being optimistic here). JT is 35 years old. He retires. We now have a massive hole at LT and we spent $40+ million dollars from now until then to keep him around instead of letting a rookie learn the positions along with the rest of the very young roster for $10 million. There's no way you can justify keeping Joe Thomas around.
So we're finally good in, say, 2019 (being optimistic here). JT is 35 years old. He retires. We now have a massive hole at LT and we spent $40+ million dollars from now until then to keep him around instead of letting a rookie learn the positions along with the rest of the very young roster for $10 million. There's no way you can justify keeping Joe Thomas around.
Keeping JT around could be justified in that he could act as a mentor to all of these young guys to show them how a true pro goes about his business which, in the FO's view, could be more valuable than what we could realistically get in return.
Just because we're now using analytics doesn't mean we have completely forgone what could be considered more "traditional" team building concepts, such as, in this case, retaining mentors such as McCown and JT.
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Well if you actually look at the substance of what he said, you'd see he's right. TCPO mentioned it too. Go compare Dansby's numbers to some of the greats. IIRC, Mud posted a comparison of Dansby's stats with Ray Lewis' and they were comparable.
Yep....by the numbers, he's right there with the best of em.....I just so happen to have them handy too....
Yearly averages......Tkls.......Sacks......FF........FR........Ints........TFL.......TDs
Dansby 101........3.4.........1.5........1.0.......1.5..........13..........6
Keuchly. 147.......1.7..........1.0.......1.0........4.0..........9...........1
Lewis 120.......2.4..........1.0.......1.0........2.0..........3...........3
And....keep in mind that Lewis and Dansby have some "old man" numbers, so Keuchly's avg's may drop if he lasts another 10-12 years......Dansby has them both in some key stats like TFL , Sacks and TD's.....all difference makers
Lewis played 5 years longer than Dansby, yet has less sacks and WAY less TFL's.....in fact, Lewis only had 48 for his entire career, while Dansby already has 81 and counting........
The numbers dont lie......dude has had a tremendous career.....
Take a peek at London Fletcher's numbers compared to Stabbin' Ray.Yep....by the numbers, he's right there with the best of em.....I just so happen to have them handy too....
Yearly averages......Tkls.......Sacks......FF........FR........Ints........TFL.......TDs
Dansby 101........3.4.........1.5........1.0.......1.5..........13..........6
Keuchly. 147.......1.7..........1.0.......1.0........4.0..........9...........1
Lewis 120.......2.4..........1.0.......1.0........2.0..........3...........3
And....keep in mind that Lewis and Dansby have some "old man" numbers, so Keuchly's avg's may drop if he lasts another 10-12 years......Dansby has them both in some key stats like TFL , Sacks and TD's.....all difference makers
Lewis played 5 years longer than Dansby, yet has less sacks and WAY less TFL's.....in fact, Lewis only had 48 for his entire career, while Dansby already has 81 and counting........
The numbers dont lie......dude has had a tremendous career.....
Fletcher won't sniff the HOF because he wasn't a showboater.
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