A Growing Suspicion...
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holy fuck he sounds worse than Johnny football. "I'ma get my ak and spray this place"?....seriously we wanna do this again only this time our QB actually does off his girlfriend. I hope this was a troll tour.
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Plan and simple all the qbs suck in the draft they all have to be developed and set for atleast one or two years fix the rest of the team and a qb will come and we will be able to protect him let McCown and Davis take the beating for now
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If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
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If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
If we go D then they will screw this up by winning too many games by supporting McCown's game management. Then we have no QB of the future unless we take Dak in a later round.
That is why teams will always take the QB. The danger is that you take that defensive player and win just enough with a journeyman QB that you will never be in position to win many games or lose enough to get a franchise QB.
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Any parallel between JM and Chad is tenuous at best.
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No it's not.
But I would be down for this. Swag Kelly!
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Switch for deshaun watson and you might be on to something.
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"As far as QBs go, I can't think of any cocky, self-absorbed QB that ever guided his team to greatness."
LOL! Oh yeah?
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VesnaKociper said:
Browns fans have historically had no problem embracing flamboyant players. Alzado, Golic, Dixon, Minnifield and Matthews come to mind. The caveat here is that these guys loved their team and fans first, and they really played their asses off.
Hoorta has always been one to chastise the loud mouth player, regardless of his skill level. Larry, correct me if I am wrong, but I think you have always felt that the obnoxious narcissist is too much of a distraction and a headache that seldom pans out.
As far as QBs go, I can't think of any cocky, self-absorbed QB that ever guided his team to greatness.
A colorful QB would be okay with me, but this Ole Miss kid, to me, is a jackoff.
Yeah, there's a difference between being cocky, and a flaming jerk off the field. So yes, I do have problems with most of those sorts of players. Now, should we draft Goff or Wentz, we're not going to have that problem. Both seem to be well grounded, humble guys. BTW, if the Browns are following their analytics- that says you MUST draft your QB, if you don't have one, the only exception being if there's a once in a generational player at another position. Bosa is not, sorry. One of the mocks had us taking Jalen Ramsey DB. We take a guy like that, he had better be the second coming of Ronnie Lott.
PS as you probably well know I was totally against Johnny Football. He's the poster boy for what I find disagreeable.
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30 Seconds into the clip.
1st quarter. 3rd and 20.
Runs for 17, and takes a hit to the head.
Looks like Johnny Football to me.
Looks like Johnny Football to me.
Some on-field similarities are undeniable, too eager to bail and run, etc., but the difference I see is that when Kelly throws his game shows "structure".
Off-field... just seems like Kelly has already been to the bottom, saw where he was and has clawed his way back. Anything close to the truth of my take clearly sets him apart from the Little Billy Lost Boy...
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Interesting kid, physical qb skills. Some team will draft him somewhere, and they will
be able to take the chance on the kid. JM probably will give some teams a second worry.
Good for him if he got his act together and is ready to be a solid guy in the NFL.
But the Browns won't take that chance, guaranteed. Unless they bring Ray Farmer the knucklehead back......
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Possibly not... even probably not... but if we don't take Goff or Wentz, the odds go up. Tour
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Not as a Browns pick, at least not significantly. Hackenburg really impressed one AFC North gm...
wasn't all that impressed with Hackenburg, but really was after his pro day.
Hackenburg helped himself immensely, and isn't any kind of character risk.
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Former Penn State quarterback Christian Hackenberg capped his workout to applause from those on hand at Holuba Hall on Thursday afternoon. The three-year starter ...
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Hackenberg helps himself with pro day workout |...lancasteronline.com/sports/football/pennstate/hackenberg...STATE COLLEGE - Christian Hackenberg made his case in the form of 52 throws at Penn State’s Pro Day Thursday. Some were shaky, like a quick out that sailed three ...
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Hackenberg is a character risk. I've heard Franklin hated him. He was also pretty bad after his freshman year.
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Not true, from what I've been reading all this time.
Hackenberg is a high character guy who means so much to the Penn State after remaining committed to the program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal and the subsequent NCAA sanctions, but his time with Franklin dampened his career arc with the Nittany Lions.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2079275/christian-hackenberg
Quick-footed athlete for his size to easily move in the pocket or stretch his legs and throw from different platforms. Clean footwork in his three-, five- and seven-step drops. Experienced taking snaps under center with pro-style concepts. Two-year team captain (second youngest player to be elected captain in school history) and viewed as a leader in the locker room.
Well-respected on campus, especially for the way he handled adversity with the sanctions (helped keep the 2013 recruiting class together) and the struggles with the coaching change. Durable and didn't miss a start the last three seasons (21-17 record as a starter).
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Sounds like a douche
I'd rather go with Connor Shaw
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Possibly not... even probably not... but if we don't take Goff or Wentz, the odds go up. Tour
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Not as a Browns pick, at least not significantly. Hackenburg really impressed one AFC North gm...
wasn't all that impressed with Hackenburg, but really was after his pro day.
Hackenburg helped himself immensely, and isn't any kind of character risk.
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Former Penn State quarterback Christian Hackenberg capped his workout to applause from those on hand at Holuba Hall on Thursday afternoon. The three-year starter ...
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Hackenberg helps himself with pro day workout |...lancasteronline.com/sports/football/pennstate/hackenberg...STATE COLLEGE - Christian Hackenberg made his case in the form of 52 throws at Penn State’s Pro Day Thursday. Some were shaky, like a quick out that sailed three ...
Possibly not... even probably not... but if we don't take Goff or Wentz, the odds go up. Tour
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Not as a Browns pick, at least not significantly. Hackenburg really impressed one AFC North gm...
wasn't all that impressed with Hackenburg, but really was after his pro day.
Hackenburg helped himself immensely, and isn't any kind of character risk.
- Hackenberg steps up at Pro Day -...pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/Hackenberg...Pro-Day-44322280
Former Penn State quarterback Christian Hackenberg capped his workout to applause from those on hand at Holuba Hall on Thursday afternoon. The three-year starter ...
- Hackenberg helps himself with pro day workout |...lancasteronline.com/sports/football/pennstate/hackenberg...
STATE COLLEGE - Christian Hackenberg made his case in the form of 52 throws at Penn State’s Pro Day Thursday. Some were shaky, like a quick out that sailed three ...
How? I now speak Indian. Thank you Cal.
Throwing against air with no chance of getting sacked or hurried makes it way easier to be decisive/on-time than Hackenberg's film shows people. Isn't that part of why coaches comment on how good he looks in pre-game warm-ups? It's amazing what shakes out when you put the defense between him and his receivers.
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