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  • There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

  • There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    And the punishment for anyone who disagrees with your particular brand of religion is death. Obviously. Do you see how people might object to that?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    And the punishment for anyone who disagrees with your particular brand of religion is death. Obviously. Do you see how people might object to that?

    @gftchris said:

    And the punishment for anyone who disagrees with your particular brand of religion is death. Obviously. Do you see how people might object to that?

    In the Old Testament the punishment for sins like adultery and homosexuality was death and under the New Testament adultery and homosexuality are still sinful behaviors but nobody is calling for the death penalty. This pastor is not calling for the death penalty either but pointing out the seriousness of the sin that it was serious enough that the penalty was death in the OT.

  • Riiiight...and the great unwashed are all able to understand that nuance for themselves?

  • @gftchris said:

    And the punishment for anyone who disagrees with your particular brand of religion is death. Obviously. Do you see how people might object to that?

    In the Old Testament the punishment for sins like adultery and homosexuality was death and under the New Testament adultery and homosexuality are still sinful behaviors but nobody is calling for the death penalty. This pastor is not calling for the death penalty either but pointing out the seriousness of the sin that it was serious enough that the penalty was death in the OT.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    that it was serious enough that the penalty was death in the OT.

    because the vast majority of people were raging sociopaths back then...you get that right? we can still see those genetic markers today in the middle east. Those are the same people that wrote your bible, especially the OT. So if you object to the things you see in the middle east, you're not realizing that's where your shit comes from. It's the same fucking people.

    Sorry I figured that out decades ago. Not sure why there's still people in the dark about this.

  • talk about an emotional knee jerk.

    The exact same people wrote the OT ....

    "...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor..."

    Don't smokie-smokie and typie-typie.

  • talk about an emotional knee jerk.

    The exact same people wrote the OT ....

    "...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor..."

    Don't smokie-smokie and typie-typie.

    @calfoxwc said:

    talk about an emotional knee jerk.

    The exact same people wrote the OT ....

    "...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor..."

    Don't smokie-smokie and typie-typie.

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    talk about an emotional knee jerk.

    The exact same people wrote the OT ....

    "...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor..."

    Don't smokie-smokie and typie-typie.

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

    The eye for an eye system of justice and the Old Testament laws which seem harsh now were probably the most civilized justice of their time:

    A New Ethics: The Ten Commandments

    The Israelite religion was not just unique at that time in recognizing a single god. It also promoted an ethical system which required high standards of behaviour from the people. In short, they were required to treat each other - including women and foreigners - with respect and consideration.

    An elaborate code of law would build up over time, constructed around ideas of fairness and justice. At the heart of this code lay the Ten Commandments, which have formed the foundation of Jewish, Christian and Muslim ethics ever since.

  • believe me "eye for an eye" is one of the tamest principles from back then. Some of it still makes a bit of sense. I'm not talking about that shit though. Those people have done and are still doing shit to other people and justified/justify it by some principle of their religion that they came up with.......to justify being sociopaths. Pretty sure entertaining even the merest notion of believing someone forfeits their life because they chose to sleep with someone else of the same sex who also chose to sleep with them.....is a blaring obvious marker of sociopathy. I go on for pages about all the behaviors that were prevelant back then that reek of blatant and profound psychosis. And I don't care for one instant for the old qualifier "well those were just different times". If people were such imbeciles back then that they couldn't discern for themselves that depriving people of their freedom cause they "needed the help" was intrinsically wrong, why on earth should I trust the writings of these people when it comes down to the ins and outs of this fucking universe. Explain that one to me. I'm supposed to trust these people had some real diving intervention in their lives so what they wrote came from some legitimate god.

    ok

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

    The eye for an eye system of justice and the Old Testament laws which seem harsh now were probably the most civilized justice of their time:

    A New Ethics: The Ten Commandments

    The Israelite religion was not just unique at that time in recognizing a single god. It also promoted an ethical system which required high standards of behaviour from the people. In short, they were required to treat each other - including women and foreigners - with respect and consideration.

    An elaborate code of law would build up over time, constructed around ideas of fairness and justice. At the heart of this code lay the Ten Commandments, which have formed the foundation of Jewish, Christian and Muslim ethics ever since.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The Israelite religion was not just unique at that time in recognizing a single god. It also promoted an ethical system which required high standards of behaviour from the people. In short, they were required to treat each other - including women and foreigners - with respect and consideration.

    An elaborate code of law would build up over time, constructed around ideas of fairness and justice. At the heart of this code lay the Ten Commandments, which have formed the foundation of Jewish, Christian and Muslim ethics ever since.

    and they did this of course "after" they sacked canaan. Yahweh was their god of war prior to this "new code". They depicted him with knives and shit.

  • Over 300 years ago, King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great Christian philosopher, to give him proof of God. Pascal answered, “Why the Jews, your Majesty, the Jews!”

    Mark Twain, an agnostic and self-acknowledged skeptic, penned this in 1899 in Harper’s Magazine:

    If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of

    the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the

    blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly be heard of; but he

    is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as

    any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of

    proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's

    list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine,

    and obtuse learning are also way out of proportion to the weakness of his

    numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all the ages, and

    has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself

    and be excused for it.
    The Egyptians, the Babylonians, and the Persians rose, filled the planet

    with sound and splendor, and faded to dream stuff and passed away. The

    Greeks and the Romans followed and made a vast noise and they are gone.

    Other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high

    for a time. But it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have

    vanished. The Jew saw them all. Beat them all, and is now what he always

    was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his

    parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive

    mind.
    All things are mortal but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he

    remains.

    FULL LIST OF EMPIRES AGAINST THE JEWS:

    Egyptian Empire,
    Chaldean Empire,
    Babylonian Empire,
    Greek Empire,
    Roman Empire,
    Byzantine Empire,
    Spanish Empire,
    Ottoman Turkish Empire,
    British Empire,
    Austro-Hungarian Empire,
    German Empire,
    French Empire,
    Russia Empire,
    Soviet Empire,
    Nazi Empire

  • Jews are proof of god? "IF" that were really the case, it's proof for a god alright...just not the one you're thinking. lols

  • who was it again that's supposed to have "dominion" over this realm?

  • There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    Except that's not true. One side is growing and one side is fading. It is pretty apparent.

    There will always be a divide over this like there will always be a divide on letting women vote.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    talk about an emotional knee jerk.

    The exact same people wrote the OT ....

    "...when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor..."

    Don't smokie-smokie and typie-typie.

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Clev has a point. The folks from that area have been savage dummies since before the Old Testament. So it only makes sense that the Old Testament is pretty violent. Until the hippie son came along, there were quite a few ways to get murdered based on rules from the Old Testament.

    And today, we can see how Islam, derived from both Christianity and Judaism, carries on the proud tradition of violence that they learned from the Old and New Testaments.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is always going to be a divide over this issue because the bible clearly says homosexuality is a sinful behavior.

    Except that's not true. One side is growing and one side is fading. It is pretty apparent.

    There will always be a divide over this like there will always be a divide on letting women vote.

    @mld-woody said:

    Except that's not true. One side is growing and one side is fading. It is pretty apparent.

    There will always be a divide over this like there will always be a divide on letting women vote.

    There is nothing in the bible saying "thou shalt not let women vote" there are scriptures (many in fact) in the OT and the NT that call homosexuality a sin. Because of that there will always be a divide between those who believe the bible is the word of God as compared to some churches whose doctrine is the bible contains the word of God. The difference between the two is that the latter believes that some percentage of the bible is actually the true word of God and some is not. The problem with that theology is what divine revelation do they have to separate the true word of God from those that are just the words of man? How do they know which part is which? The fact is they can't and the only way to be sure is to take all of the bible as inspired scripture from God. That divide is not going away.

  • the only way to be sure is to take all of the bible as inspired scripture from God. That divide is not going away.

    Do you fall in to this camp? A literal interpretation of the bible?

  • the only way to be sure is to take all of the bible as inspired scripture from God. That divide is not going away.

    Do you fall in to this camp? A literal interpretation of the bible?

    @gftchris said:

    Do you fall in to this camp? A literal interpretation of the bible?

    I think you know the answer to this one.

  • I meant like the whole shebang - from rib-lady and talking snakes, creating first day/night and then the sun, literally parting the water, all that business - on top of 'jesus said it so it must be true'

  • @gftchris said:

    Do you fall in to this camp? A literal interpretation of the bible?

    I think you know the answer to this one.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I think you know the answer to this one.

    Bingo. 🙂

    I don't understand those who believe the Christian belief of God becoming a man, dying on a cross for their sins and rising from death and ascending to the Father to be the mediator and savior of mankind yet the story of Jonah is too far fetched. Of course it would take a miracle for the story of Jonah to be real but it would also take a miracle to believe in the story of Jesus. If you can believe in one miracle why are you stopping there?