Sashi is Destroying Browns Reporting in His Spare Time at the Spring Meeting
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You remind me of a constantly complaining employee with whom I once had to deal. I refused to listen to her complaints unless they were presented with a suggestion for improvement. She was madder'n hell but she stopped her incessant bitching. What would you do to change the Browns' fortunes? You seem to know everything they do wrong, so what should they do right?
Mike
For starters, they might have (and probably should have) brought in a guy like Elliot Wolf for a little football IQ, and kept Sashi as strictly the bean counter.
OK Sushi and DePo are smart- I've seen plenty of those sorts flop in business. Ever hear of the Peter Principle?
Mike, this reeks of a desperation move by Haslam. He knows he's losing the fanbase, and hopes his radical idea pays off. Or at least buys him more time. Being a minority owner of the Steelers may not have taught him much.
I'll withhold judgement until I see how the draft unfolds, but I sure as hell doubt they're going to be able to replace all the talent that walked out the door in one draft.
I'll withhold judgement until I see how the draft unfolds, but I sure as hell doubt they're going to be able to replace all the talent that walked out the door in one draft.
So how many seasons are you holding out for hoorta? Its obvious that Hue is rebuilding. So again, are you holding out for one season, two, three?
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I'll withhold judgement until I see how the draft unfolds, but I sure as hell doubt they're going to be able to replace all the talent that walked out the door in one draft.
So how many seasons are you holding out for hoorta? Its obvious that Hue is rebuilding. So again, are you holding out for one season, two, three?
So how many seasons are you holding out for hoorta? Its obvious that Hue is rebuilding. So again, are you holding out for one season, two, three?
I want to see progress dawg. No more first round picks that can't either play, or would rather party. A defense that's better than 30th in rush D, and 29th in points allowed.
Oh, I'll probably hang around- but it was pretty brutal last year- just sitting there watching the game & not really caring about the outcome. 4 games were 3 TD blowouts, 2 of the 3 wins were against teams as bad or worse than us.
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So how many seasons are you holding out for hoorta? Its obvious that Hue is rebuilding. So again, are you holding out for one season, two, three?
I want to see progress dawg. No more first round picks that can't either play, or would rather party. A defense that's better than 30th in rush D, and 29th in points allowed.
Oh, I'll probably hang around- but it was pretty brutal last year- just sitting there watching the game & not really caring about the outcome. 4 games were 3 TD blowouts, 2 of the 3 wins were against teams as bad or worse than us.
I want to see progress dawg. No more first round picks that can't either play, or would rather party. A defense that's better than 30th in rush D, and 29th in points allowed.
Oh, I'll probably hang around- but it was pretty brutal last year- just sitting there watching the game & not really caring about the outcome. 4 games were 3 TD blowouts, 2 of the 3 wins were against teams as bad or worse than us.
Couldn't agree with you more hoorta. I think that Sashi, Depodesta, Hue and the Haslems finally agree that we should give this coach at least 5 years. If it works in less, even better. But we need to rebuild this team the correct way. No more coaches coming in knowing that they only have one or two years to turn it around or they are gone, exactly why most FAs don't want to come here to begin with. You bring in young draftees and don't pay them a fortune, let them earn it. No more overpaid FAs. I hope I'm around to see the results, but I fully expect to see a winner in Cleveland over the next few years.
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Larry I don't even see it as his own radical ideas, it sounds more like he's an ignorant rich man who's been sold a bill of goods. Like you say if this shit pays off I will change my tune but so far the entire idea of Analytics sounds like a scam. I have absolutely no faith in 'Sushi' Brown to know anything about football.
Even if I did I can't imagine it taking less then three years to show some kind of real progress. And I don't expect Jimmy has that kind of time to fuck around.
Show me or blow me.
WSS
Larry I don't even see it as his own radical ideas, it sounds more like he's an ignorant rich man who's been sold a bill of goods. Like you say if this shit pays off I will change my tune but so far the entire idea of Analytics sounds like a scam. I have absolutely no faith in 'Sushi' Brown to know anything about football.
Even if I did I can't imagine it taking less then three years to show some kind of real progress. And I don't expect Jimmy has that kind of time to fuck around.
Show me or blow me.
WSS
Analytics is not some scam, and it's not really new in the NFL. I'm sure that Bellicheck and Co runs some sort of anylitics, they just don't advertise it as such and keep as much as possible on the down low.
I noted a long time ago how they manage to pick up veterans who have some years left in them, but when they release vets, they usually are done. Even if they catch on for a year or two they are done. See Willie McGinnest and some OL we picked up years back from the Patriots. Nothing left in the tank for either of them.
Even though it's been introduces as some whiz-bang shiny new process - and it is a new concept in Cleveland - other teams have done analytics/moneyball type of thing for a long time.
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Well then Moe, hot diggity damn.
Of course if everybody's already doing it then this bunch is going to need something else to set them apart from or above the pack.
WSS
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I think analytics is just another way of saying "let's figure out what works, usually, and what
we expect, and look at the fa and draft compreensively, rather than just a
single game, or combine workout."
It's a look at everthing involved, and a look at everything about a kid you draft.
It's just a smarter approach than what dummies have done in the past, not just the Browns.
With that approach, the Browns would have never drafted jm or Gordon or.... the list is long.
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I'm just going to go ahead and be totally honest........ I have no idea what analytics even is, and need Google's help just to spell it. I never saw Money Ball either.
I'm just going to go ahead and be totally honest........ I have no idea what analytics even is, and need Google's help just to spell it. I never saw Money Ball either.
It is literally just analyzing data to find trends. Every team in every sport does it, and always has.
These guys are just looking for data points that more closely correlate with success.
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I'm just going to go ahead and be totally honest........ I have no idea what analytics even is, and need Google's help just to spell it. I never saw Money Ball either.
It is literally just analyzing data to find trends. Every team in every sport does it, and always has.
These guys are just looking for data points that more closely correlate with success.
It is literally just analyzing data to find trends. Every team in every sport does it, and always has.
These guys are just looking for data points that more closely correlate with success.
Right....I mean, you don't need a Harvard education to understand analytics!
Or...errr, maybe you do?
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It is literally just analyzing data to find trends. Every team in every sport does it, and always has.
These guys are just looking for data points that more closely correlate with success.
Right....I mean, you don't need a Harvard education to understand analytics!
Or...errr, maybe you do?
Right....I mean, you don't need a Harvard education to understand analytics!
Or...errr, maybe you do?
Maybe it just depends on the data points you're evaluating.
Or maybe the education helps in finding NEW, undiscovered data points.
It's all very interesting stuff, personally. I've been working on a formula for QB's in the draft for about two years with some guys as a side project and all its continuously told me so far thoughout each revision is that both Joey Harrington and Brandon Weeden shouldn't have been drafted so high.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I'm okay with bringing in Hue.. Im not a fan of "Whore-ton" and his less than desirable hang DB's out to dry defense. And I'm definitely not a fan of Dupa and Sushi. I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Right....I mean, you don't need a Harvard education to understand analytics!
Or...errr, maybe you do?
Maybe it just depends on the data points you're evaluating.
Or maybe the education helps in finding NEW, undiscovered data points.
It's all very interesting stuff, personally. I've been working on a formula for QB's in the draft for about two years with some guys as a side project and all its continuously told me so far thoughout each revision is that both Joey Harrington and Brandon Weeden shouldn't have been drafted so high.
I've been working on a formula for QB's in the draft for about two years with some guys as a side project and all its continuously told me so far thoughout each revision is that both Joey Harrington and Brandon Weeden shouldn't have been drafted so high.
OK... I laughed so hard that that one hurt..
Look on the bright side... it's better than the model spitting out that they were under-drafted...
Did the effort all start with a pile of data and a regression analysis?
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I'm okay with bringing in Hue.. Im not a fan of "Whore-ton" and his less than desirable hang DB's out to dry defense. And I'm definitely not a fan of Dupa and Sushi. I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
I'm okay with bringing in Hue.. Im not a fan of "Whore-ton" and his less than desirable hang DB's out to dry defense. And I'm definitely not a fan of Dupa and Sushi. I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
If you needed any more evidence.
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Right....I mean, you don't need a Harvard education to understand analytics!
Or...errr, maybe you do?
Maybe it just depends on the data points you're evaluating.
Or maybe the education helps in finding NEW, undiscovered data points.
It's all very interesting stuff, personally. I've been working on a formula for QB's in the draft for about two years with some guys as a side project and all its continuously told me so far thoughout each revision is that both Joey Harrington and Brandon Weeden shouldn't have been drafted so high.
Maybe it just depends on the data points you're evaluating.
Or maybe the education helps in finding NEW, undiscovered data points.
It's all very interesting stuff, personally. I've been working on a formula for QB's in the draft for about two years with some guys as a side project and all its continuously told me so far thoughout each revision is that both Joey Harrington and Brandon Weeden shouldn't have been drafted so high.
That is a No Shit Sherlock statement if I ever heard one.
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I'm okay with bringing in Hue.. Im not a fan of "Whore-ton" and his less than desirable hang DB's out to dry defense. And I'm definitely not a fan of Dupa and Sushi. I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
If you needed any more evidence.
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I'm okay with bringing in Hue.. Im not a fan of "Whore-ton" and his less than desirable hang DB's out to dry defense. And I'm definitely not a fan of Dupa and Sushi. I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
I honestly think its a conspiracy to move the browns to vegas when the stadium lease is up 2020 I believe.
And the bonus is we will already have a free and experienced QB waiting there for us. Forget drafting them. If you build it (in Vegas) he will come.
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And the bonus is we will already have a free and experienced QB waiting there for us. Forget drafting them. If you build it (in Vegas) he will come.
Laugh all you want but a team just cant be this inept by accident.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
And the bonus is we will already have a free and experienced QB waiting there for us. Forget drafting them. If you build it (in Vegas) he will come.
Laugh all you want but a team just cant be this inept by accident.
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And the bonus is we will already have a free and experienced QB waiting there for us. Forget drafting them. If you build it (in Vegas) he will come.
Laugh all you want but a team just cant be this inept by accident.
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