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  • another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    Well he's played 19 games Lum... You're kinda splittin hairs here considering Jamarcus flat out sucks after that much time.

  • another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    It's your heroin. Any thread involing a QB.

  • Not to mention that Garcia is likely to be the backup...at least according to many of the top pundits.

  • another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    Uhhh... JR will be the starter once the season rolls around, even if Garcia shows more in camp. With that said, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

  • @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    Uhhh... JR will be the starter once the season rolls around, even if Garcia shows more in camp. With that said, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

    @zubba76 said:

    ......, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

    Aren't we all glad that at least this decision was removed from Opie's grasp?

  • Jeff Garcia and Al Davis.....A match made in heaven.

  • Right after JR got his big deal, he showed up to camp overweight and out of football shape.

    To this point, I've heard nothing about extra time in the film room for JR, no extra time or off season training programs and a slew of bad games to show for it.

    He's another guy with "the arm" everyone drools over and hopes turns out to be the next big thing.

    JR was drafted on his arm and one good big game. Honestly I didn't think he was going to last as long as he did.

  • another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    Wait but he can throw 70 yards on his knees, he must be good. Oh wait DA can too, never mind.

  • @lumbergh said:

    another nail in the "1ST ROUND QBs GET 20-25 STARTS!" coffin

    Uhhh... JR will be the starter once the season rolls around, even if Garcia shows more in camp. With that said, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

    @zubba76 said:

    Uhhh... JR will be the starter once the season rolls around, even if Garcia shows more in camp. With that said, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

    His work ethic is coming into question.

    I'm not sure how the NFL prepares rookies for the NFL. But maybe, just maybe they aren't doing enough.

    I want a Job where my employer says, "Here's a few million. Now in your first year, sit and watch how other people do it".

    NFL needs a salary cap on rookies and even second to 3rd year players. Teams shell out Millions to these college kids who can't handle the NFL. Who is paying for that. The ticket buyers, the fans.

    Look at the Quarterback class of 1999. Supposed to have been one of the best in a long time.

    Tim Couch

    Akili Smith

    Daunte Culpepper

    Cade McNown

    Donavan McNabb

    McNabb and Culpepper are the only two that have seen success and some would question if Culpepper has had a successful career.

    Couch, Smith and McNown... Gone. See ya. How much money was wasted on these guys?

  • @zubba76 said:

    Uhhh... JR will be the starter once the season rolls around, even if Garcia shows more in camp. With that said, it's fairly obvious that Russel isn't putting the work in. I wouldn't be surprised if he's riding the pine by week 3 or 4.

    His work ethic is coming into question.

    I'm not sure how the NFL prepares rookies for the NFL. But maybe, just maybe they aren't doing enough.

    I want a Job where my employer says, "Here's a few million. Now in your first year, sit and watch how other people do it".

    NFL needs a salary cap on rookies and even second to 3rd year players. Teams shell out Millions to these college kids who can't handle the NFL. Who is paying for that. The ticket buyers, the fans.

    Look at the Quarterback class of 1999. Supposed to have been one of the best in a long time.

    Tim Couch

    Akili Smith

    Daunte Culpepper

    Cade McNown

    Donavan McNabb

    McNabb and Culpepper are the only two that have seen success and some would question if Culpepper has had a successful career.

    Couch, Smith and McNown... Gone. See ya. How much money was wasted on these guys?

    @brownskidd said:

    NFL needs a salary cap on rookies and even second to 3rd year players. Teams shell out Millions to these college kids who can't handle the NFL. Who is paying for that. The ticket buyers, the fans.

    I think it's going to happen in the next NFL/Players union contract. Old vets are tired of these unproven kids coming in and making more as soon as they sign a contract. More than those old vets do in five years.

    It only makes sense for the majority of players to vote for this. They'll see it as it making more money available for them.