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University Moves to Fire Conservative Professor Over His Political Views

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  • T The Cysko Kid

    @gftchris said:

    Basically, some views should be banned. I know that won't go across well with some of you 'freedom of speech above all else' types, but it's true. Like was said, if the point was about how black people shouldn't be able to marry white people, or how women shouldn't be able to vote, or it's fine to lay off old people just because they're old (the DePodesta philosophy), there'd be no discussion. But because it's about gay rights, which is still a relatively recent change in civil rights, people still have their tails up.

    Frankly, I don't see why anyone would care what genitalia someone has or what they do with it.

    British are guilty of imperialism and we're implicit in the slave trade. British points of view should be banned. End of discussion, limey, piss off.
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    British are guilty of imperialism and we're implicit in the slave trade. British points of view should be banned. End of discussion, limey, piss off.

    Nice...

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      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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      I'm not surprised it's flying over your heads.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        Basically, some views should be banned. I know that won't go across well with some of you 'freedom of speech above all else' types, but it's true. Like was said, if the point was about how black people shouldn't be able to marry white people, or how women shouldn't be able to vote, or it's fine to lay off old people just because they're old (the DePodesta philosophy), there'd be no discussion. But because it's about gay rights, which is still a relatively recent change in civil rights, people still have their tails up.

        Frankly, I don't see why anyone would care what genitalia someone has or what they do with it.

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @gftchris said:

        Basically, some views should be banned. I know that won't go across well with some of you 'freedom of speech above all else' types, but it's true. Like was said, if the point was about how black people shouldn't be able to marry white people, or how women shouldn't be able to vote, or it's fine to lay off old people just because they're old (the DePodesta philosophy), there'd be no discussion. But because it's about gay rights, which is still a relatively recent change in civil rights, people still have their tails up.

        Frankly, I don't see why anyone would care what genitalia someone has or what they do with it.

        Well, you're English.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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          This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

          However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

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          • jrb12711J jrb12711

            This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

            However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

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            VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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            @jrb12711 said:

            This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

            However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

            The Catholic universities care more about how they look than they care about open and honest academic discourse.

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              This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

              However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              @jrb12711 said:

              This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

              However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

              I got into an argument years ago with our local newspaper editor over a letter to the editor I wrote. He took it upon himself to edit my letter to the point it didn't even hardly mean what I had meant it to say. He never added to the bottom of my letter that it had been edited. He told me they were a private newspaper and didn't violate my free speech and if I checked it out I would find out he was right. I did check it out and he was right although most of the people I spoke with told me he should have noted he edited my letter.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                that's just corrupt.

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                  that's just corrupt.

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  that's just corrupt.

                  The same editor later got busted in a gay prostitute sex ring at a local park and I got to see his mug shot in the paper (without any editing). 🙂

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                    @jrb12711 said:

                    This came up in my feed working in Higher Ed so I thought I'd weigh in. First off, to the surprise of many of you probably, I'm against this decision. I don't agree with the guys opinions but I don't think this promotes what Higher Education is about in my professional opinion anyway (which if people wanna hear more about I can)

                    However, a very important thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that Marquette is a private, Catholic university by definition. Just like private business, they are allowed to make decisions on firing just like any company would. This stuff happens at insert business all the time, but in Higher Education it usually gets more latitude. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from saying stuff that gets you fired.

                    I got into an argument years ago with our local newspaper editor over a letter to the editor I wrote. He took it upon himself to edit my letter to the point it didn't even hardly mean what I had meant it to say. He never added to the bottom of my letter that it had been edited. He told me they were a private newspaper and didn't violate my free speech and if I checked it out I would find out he was right. I did check it out and he was right although most of the people I spoke with told me he should have noted he edited my letter.

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    I got into an argument years ago with our local newspaper editor over a letter to the editor I wrote. He took it upon himself to edit my letter to the point it didn't even hardly mean what I had meant it to say. He never added to the bottom of my letter that it had been edited. He told me they were a private newspaper and didn't violate my free speech and if I checked it out I would find out he was right. I did check it out and he was right although most of the people I spoke with told me he should have noted he edited my letter.

                    Hard Truth? A lot of shit shouldn't happen, but it does. People and institutions act in their self-interest first and foremost.

                    Again, I'm not for this firing though, it goes against my opinions as a professional in the field.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      "academic freedom" only applies to leftists/progressives/marxists/sumbeiches.

                      The left demands to have sole control of rights. A lot like the nazis. They could do anything

                      they wanted, including kill anyone for any reason, and deny anyone at any time of their rights.

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                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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