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  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

    @mr.-t said:

    Number of Selections: 5 (1, 2, 2, 4, 6)

    RECENT FIRST ROUND HISTORY: 2008 - none;

    2007 - Joe Thomas (T, Wisconsin), - So far so good

    Brady Quinn (QB, Notre Dame); - TIME WILL TELL

    2006 - Kamerion Wimbley (OLB, Florida State); TIME WILL TELL

    2005 - Braylon Edwards (WR, Michigan); TIME WILL TELL

    2004 - Kellen Winslow (TE, Miami- Florida); GONE

    2003 - Jeff Faine (C, Notre Dame); BUST

    2002 - William Green (RB, Boston College); BUST

    2001 - Gerard Warren (DT, Florida); BUST

    2000 - Courtney Brown (DE, Penn State); BUST

    1999 - Tim Couch (QB, Kentucky); BUST

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    And just when I was feeling good about our chances, some dipshit has to rub our noses in the dirt.

    What a mess of picks... That's embarrassing. Hardly anything to show for it..

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    Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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    @brownskidd said:

    What a mess of picks... That's embarrassing. Hardly anything to show for it..

    Do you remember Touchdown Tommy?

    Head or Gut?
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      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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      Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust.

      Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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        Mankok needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

        Head or Gut?
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        • Mr. TM Mr. T

          @brownskidd said:

          What a mess of picks... That's embarrassing. Hardly anything to show for it..

          Do you remember Touchdown Tommy?

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          BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by BrownsKidd
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          @mr.-t said:

          Do you remember Touchdown Tommy?

          Tommy Vardell - Didn't he manage about 3 or 4 touchdowns while with the browns...

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            Mankok needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

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            T Timugen wrote on last edited by
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            @mr.-t said:

            Mankok needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

            As long as that rabbit can play some football.

            "I like to quote myself." -Me
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            • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

              Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust.

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              BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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              @kosar_for_president said:

              Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust.

              I understand your point, but when you draft a guy first round and he is no longer with you after 3 years, that's not good for us.

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              • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

                @mr.-t said:

                Do you remember Touchdown Tommy?

                Tommy Vardell - Didn't he manage about 3 or 4 touchdowns while with the browns...

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                Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                @brownskidd said:

                Tommy Vardell - Didn't he manage about 3 or 4 touchdowns while with the browns...

                I think so, one of those was a 2 point conversion.

                Head or Gut?
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                  PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                  I think by the time trades are done with, were gonna have 2 (maybe 3 if we trade edwards and trade down) 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 3 third round picks and give or take a few low round choices

                  Im pretty sure we will off Derek for a 2nd, then trade down or trade edwards, or as I said, do both

                  I think we can snag all the people on my board here....

                  Michael Crabtree WR

                  Rey Maualuga ILB

                  William Moore SS

                  Rashad Jennings RB

                  Connor Barwin OLB

                  Frantz Joseph ILB

                  Jarett Dillard WR

                  Rylan Reed OT (UDFA)

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                    Tony Moss, NFL Editor said:

                    (Sports Network) - The Browns are a mess. Their best defensive player, tackle Shaun Rogers, has been at odds with new head coach Eric Mangini. One of their top offensive weapons, wideout Braylon Edwards, has reportedly been on the trading block, with his contract about to run out after 2009. But Cleveland probably can't afford to address either position via the Draft, since the team only has five picks and has a host of other needs. The Browns didn't rush the passer well in 2008 and the cornerback slot was a complete revolving door due to injuries. Another backfield option is needed with starter Jamal Lewis in decline, and a pass-catching tight end following the trade of Kellen Winslow would make some sense as well. With all of those needs, you can pretty much forget Cleveland selecting a quarterback anywhere in this Draft, even though the team's new braintrust of coach Eric Mangini and GM George Kokinis are apparently not enamored of Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson.

                    This is probably the shittiest draft "preview" I have ever read in my entire life.

                    Kudos, Tony Moss!

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                      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                      Lol i remember no touchdown tommy..anyone remember a real super bust named mike junkin?

                      I recall this guy being a walking injury and nothing else...hehehehe

                      Yup mangini needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat and that rabbit is named Curry...😉

                      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                        Tony Moss, NFL Editor said:

                        (Sports Network) - The Browns are a mess. Their best defensive player, tackle Shaun Rogers, has been at odds with new head coach Eric Mangini. One of their top offensive weapons, wideout Braylon Edwards, has reportedly been on the trading block, with his contract about to run out after 2009. But Cleveland probably can't afford to address either position via the Draft, since the team only has five picks and has a host of other needs. The Browns didn't rush the passer well in 2008 and the cornerback slot was a complete revolving door due to injuries. Another backfield option is needed with starter Jamal Lewis in decline, and a pass-catching tight end following the trade of Kellen Winslow would make some sense as well. With all of those needs, you can pretty much forget Cleveland selecting a quarterback anywhere in this Draft, even though the team's new braintrust of coach Eric Mangini and GM George Kokinis are apparently not enamored of Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson.

                        This is probably the shittiest draft "preview" I have ever read in my entire life.

                        Kudos, Tony Moss!

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                        PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                        mz. said:

                        This is probably the shittiest draft "preview" I have ever read in my entire life.

                        Kudos, Tony Moss!

                        Agreed, it doesnt really preview anything... its just an insult to our current state of affairs, not to mention alot of that is false

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                          Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                          Actually, I thought Vardell was a pretty good player. He played behind some atrocious lines back then if you'll recall. He could catch out of the backfield and block, plus he ran freaking hard. You put that guy in a Dallas or San Fran situation back then and he has a real nice career.

                          I met him and Frank Stams out one night after the Browns announced their move and they were both cool about it. Vardell looked huge in pads (especially the Mack like shoulder pads) but he was surprisingly not that big in person but still pretty ripped.

                          Is a pig's ass pork?
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                          • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

                            @kosar_for_president said:

                            Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust.

                            I understand your point, but when you draft a guy first round and he is no longer with you after 3 years, that's not good for us.

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                            S samoth wrote on last edited by
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                            @brownskidd said:

                            I understand your point, but when you draft a guy first round and he is no longer with you after 3 years, that's not good for us.

                            At the time, we thought we were getting an upgrade with Bentley.

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                              D D'Qwimbley wrote on last edited by
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                              Horrible article. Not only does it not actually preview our draft, we don't need to draft a pass-catching TE instead of a WR, and we aren't missing out not taking a DL, we arent in need of one. And our revolving door of CBs due to injuries? Im pretty sure our 2 starters started every game but one, where Daniels started over McDonald for like one series. And it doesnt even mention our number 2/3 need, a starting SS.

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                              • D D'Qwimbley

                                Horrible article. Not only does it not actually preview our draft, we don't need to draft a pass-catching TE instead of a WR, and we aren't missing out not taking a DL, we arent in need of one. And our revolving door of CBs due to injuries? Im pretty sure our 2 starters started every game but one, where Daniels started over McDonald for like one series. And it doesnt even mention our number 2/3 need, a starting SS.

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                                Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                                @d-qwimbley said:

                                Horrible article. Not only does it not actually preview our draft, we don't need to draft a pass-catching TE instead of a WR, and we aren't missing out not taking a DL, we arent in need of one. And our revolving door of CBs due to injuries? Im pretty sure our 2 starters started every game but one, where Daniels started over McDonald for like one series. And it doesnt even mention our number 2/3 need, a starting SS.

                                No offense to anybody posting these, but national guy's perspective on what the Browns need (or anybody else) is usually about as brilliant as one of Lums' retorts.

                                Hell, if I was one of these supposed gurus, I'd visit message boards around the league for each team and could put together something way more cognizant about each team's needs than this toolshed.

                                Is a pig's ass pork?
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                                • PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend

                                  I think by the time trades are done with, were gonna have 2 (maybe 3 if we trade edwards and trade down) 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 3 third round picks and give or take a few low round choices

                                  Im pretty sure we will off Derek for a 2nd, then trade down or trade edwards, or as I said, do both

                                  I think we can snag all the people on my board here....

                                  Michael Crabtree WR

                                  Rey Maualuga ILB

                                  William Moore SS

                                  Rashad Jennings RB

                                  Connor Barwin OLB

                                  Frantz Joseph ILB

                                  Jarett Dillard WR

                                  Rylan Reed OT (UDFA)

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                                  DawgPound4LifeD DawgPound4Life wrote on last edited by
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                                  @playgroundlegend said:

                                  I think by the time trades are done with, were gonna have 2 (maybe 3 if we trade edwards and trade down) 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 3 third round picks and give or take a few low round choices

                                  Im pretty sure we will off Derek for a 2nd, then trade down or trade edwards, or as I said, do both

                                  I think we can snag all the people on my board here....

                                  Michael Crabtree WR

                                  Rey Maualuga ILB

                                  William Moore SS

                                  Rashad Jennings RB

                                  Connor Barwin OLB

                                  Frantz Joseph ILB

                                  Jarett Dillard WR

                                  Rylan Reed OT (UDFA)

                                  we could only hope for a draft similar to this

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                                    E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                                    I think they get the Giants first and third for Edwards and they take:

                                    Crabtree and (insert USC linebacker here).

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