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  • @d-bone said:

    I don't think the Browns draft either

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    Well lets hope this isn't true, that strategy for the Browns has been a disaster in the past. I would rather get the best QB at #2 Goff or Wentz(I prefer Wentz) and live with out 10 picks we already have. It would be stupid to pass over a possible franchise QB so we can draft another DB or LB to fill out a roster position.

  • @d-bone said:

    I don't think the Browns draft either

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    With Sushi and the other brilliant minds in the front office, they will probably trade it like fools.

  • @d-bone said:

    I don't think the Browns draft either

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    I am not necessarily opposed to this. On the QBs....you know my position....I don't think these guys have the talent to warrant #2 overall selection. If you don't want to take the DE, then trade down....get multiple picks....pick up needs on defense and offense.

    Don't be surprised if they pull a deal like the one they did the year they took Phil Taylor: go down to the middle of the draft, pick up another second rounder....and a first rounder next year in a trade. This FO may in fact want some quantity over quality for this year.....and may want to accumulate assets for the future (i.e. more first round picks.)

    Don't be surprised if this happens.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    With Sushi and the other brilliant minds in the front office, they will probably trade it like fools.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    With Sushi and the other brilliant minds in the front office, they will probably trade it like fools.

    Well In fairness, Sushi's job is job is to save Mister Haslam money.

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Aditi K. reporting out of Berea on NFL Network this a.m. says don't be surprised if the Browns trade down out of #2 to add more draft picks to the 10 they already have.

    I am not necessarily opposed to this. On the QBs....you know my position....I don't think these guys have the talent to warrant #2 overall selection. If you don't want to take the DE, then trade down....get multiple picks....pick up needs on defense and offense.

    Don't be surprised if they pull a deal like the one they did the year they took Phil Taylor: go down to the middle of the draft, pick up another second rounder....and a first rounder next year in a trade. This FO may in fact want some quantity over quality for this year.....and may want to accumulate assets for the future (i.e. more first round picks.)

    Don't be surprised if this happens.

    @the-gipper said:

    I am not necessarily opposed to this. On the QBs....you know my position....I don't think these guys have the talent to warrant #2 overall selection. If you don't want to take the DE, then trade down....get multiple picks....pick up needs on defense and offense.

    Don't be surprised if they pull a deal like the one they did the year they took Phil Taylor: go down to the middle of the draft, pick up another second rounder....and a first rounder next year in a trade. This FO may in fact want some quantity over quality for this year.....and may want to accumulate assets for the future (i.e. more first round picks.)

    Don't be surprised if this happens.

    Don't be surprised if they don't trade down. ?
  • There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

  • There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    @darren15 said:

    There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    I'm on the watson train if we don't take a QB this year.

  • I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

  • I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

    @bbedward said:

    I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year and still a job

  • I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

    @bbedward said:

    I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

    I agree with that. But it's hard to see how we have improved the team from 3 + 13.

    I would guess that Jimmy and Dee gave these boys at least a bit of hope that they might get a third year, but if we are going to try for the number one pick will need to go 0 and 16.

    WSS

  • @bbedward said:

    I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

    I agree with that. But it's hard to see how we have improved the team from 3 + 13.

    I would guess that Jimmy and Dee gave these boys at least a bit of hope that they might get a third year, but if we are going to try for the number one pick will need to go 0 and 16.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I agree with that. But it's hard to see how we have improved the team from 3 + 13.

    I would guess that Jimmy and Dee gave these boys at least a bit of hope that they might get a third year, but if we are going to try for the number one pick will need to go 0 and 16.

    WSS

    It can be done...we are the Browns I have every faith 🙂

  • I didn't need "Anal-litticks'. to tell Me Goff was the better QB.. this is a dumb thread... I wish DepoDupa and Sushi would hire a real football man like Bill Pollian.. I dont trust these two as far as can spit.

    @nickers said:

    I didn't need "Anal-litticks'. to tell Me Goff was the better QB.. this is a dumb thread...

    The role analytics play will change from round to round...

    While you shouldn't need them to spot a first round talent, you want them to confirm your board.

    By the time you get to Rnd 7 and UDFAs I'd fully expect them to have ID'd players that were not seriously on your radar prior to the findings.

    In between? More the former than the latter I'd think, but with more influence over where a player is taken than if he's taken.

    @darren15 said:

    There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    Sounds like a sure fire recipe for us getting an all-time trade-up offer... and missing yet another QB...

  • There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    @darren15 said:

    There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    & what if the guy blows out his knee, like Griffin did in college? There goes that plan.

    @bbedward said:

    I don't think you can really make your plans based on hoping to have the first pick next year.

    I agree- you can't make assumptions about where you're going to be drafting next year. The Browns tied for the worst record- and got bumped out of the #1 overall by strength of schedule.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am not necessarily opposed to this. On the QBs....you know my position....I don't think these guys have the talent to warrant #2 overall selection. If you don't want to take the DE, then trade down....get multiple picks....pick up needs on defense and offense.

    Don't be surprised if they pull a deal like the one they did the year they took Phil Taylor: go down to the middle of the draft, pick up another second rounder....and a first rounder next year in a trade. This FO may in fact want some quantity over quality for this year.....and may want to accumulate assets for the future (i.e. more first round picks.)

    Don't be surprised if this happens.

    Don't be surprised if they don't trade down. ?

    @mike-h said:

    Don't be surprised if they don't trade down.

    In other words: Don't be surprised either way.

  • @darren15 said:

    There is a much better QB coming out of Clemson in 2017 ....take Bosa, Ramsey, Buckner or Jack at 2 a QB later in this draft ( Hogan or Prescott ) and pounce in 2017 when we have the first pick

    I'm on the watson train if we don't take a QB this year.

    @gftchris said:

    I'm on the watson train if we don't take a QB this year.

    I am not sure that I will board that train. A long way to go before that decision is to be made.

    Remember, last year at this time the talk was that Hackenberg and Cook could likely be the best QBs going on.

    See this: Prescott, Hackenberg, the OSU Triumvirate rated over Goff. This had Watson and Cody Kessler as the best QBs going into last season.....both are back right?

    And you don't see the name Carson Wentz in the top 25.

  • Part of me hopes we pick at 2 and don't move up from 32 - the draft starts at 1am London time, the sooner we pick the sooner I go to bed!

  • Part of me hopes we pick at 2 and don't move up from 32 - the draft starts at 1am London time, the sooner we pick the sooner I go to bed!

    @gftchris said:

    Part of me hopes we pick at 2 and don't move up from 32 - the draft starts at 1am London time, the sooner we pick the sooner I go to bed!

    We will trade down out of the first round after trading down to say 25 first ....no zzzzzzz for you 🙂

  • @gftchris said:

    Part of me hopes we pick at 2 and don't move up from 32 - the draft starts at 1am London time, the sooner we pick the sooner I go to bed!

    We will trade down out of the first round after trading down to say 25 first ....no zzzzzzz for you 🙂

    @darren15 said:

    We will trade down out of the first round after trading down to say 25 first ....no zzzzzzz for you 🙂

    But look at it this way, you'll get plenty of sleep next football season on Sunday afternoons EST when the Browns go 0 + 16.

    WSS