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  • Aloysius ?
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    MMQB Mail: Ten nuggets on draft

    Eighteen short days until the draft, so it's time for yours truly to start devoting days and nights to draft education. I started with a conversation with Mike Mayock of NFL Network, a guy I like a lot because he's blunt and not afraid to be wrong. If you're afraid to be wrong in the draft business, you'll be mealy mouthed. That's not Mayock.

    Ten Nuggets Mined From Mayock

    1. "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.''

    2. His gut feeling is Detroit's taking Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford with the first pick of the draft.

    3. "I can't bang the table for Stafford the way I did for Matt Ryan last year. I don't see an elite player in him every time I watch, which you need to see if you're taking a quarterback that high.''

    4. Mayock, if he had his choice of first-round picks for talent and value, would be around 22. "The value in this draft is at 15 and beyond.''

    5. He says eight or nine tight ends will be drafted in the first three rounds. He loves the best of the bunch, Oklahoma State's Brandon Pettigrew. (I'd love to see the Bills land him, by the way. Perfect offensive weapon for a coordinator, Turk Schonert, who loves to use the tight end.)

    6. He likes Eugene Monroe over Jason Smith, if you're picking a franchise tackle. "Smith's got a better upside. Very aggressive. But Monroe's got the best feet in the draft. He's a really accomplished technician.''

    7. He thinks Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry -- who Detroit would play at middle linebacker if the Lions made him the first pick of the draft -- would be optimally used at strongside linebacker in the 4-3 because he can cover, he can play physically over the tight end, and he's got upside pass-rushing ability.

    8. He's scared of Brian Orakpo, the Texas defensive end who's the apple of a few teams' eyes in the top half of the first round. "Buyer beware,'' Mayock said. "He's boom or bust. I don't know if he's DeMarcus Ware or Vernon Gholston. I've seen him have some really good games, and I've seen what I considered to be Brandon Pettigrew tearing him apart. The point is, I don't see it all the time from Orakpo, which concerns me.''

    9. Of the elite quarterbacks, he likes USC's Mark Sanchez the best. "He's the most ready made for the pro game right now.''

    10. If you need a cornerback in this draft, sit it out. There are no corners even well above average, never mind great.

    A year ago, Mayock told me he liked Ryan, who played four years at Boston College, more than he'd liked any quarterback to come out in years. Not the case with the three early entry passers this year -- Stafford, Sanchez and Kansas State's Josh Freeman. "In the last 15 years, there have been 11 underclass quarterbacks taken in the first round,'' he said. "Of those 11, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers are the only clear successes. It's a dangerous thing, picking young quarterbacks so high.''

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      Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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      Thanks, Al.

      Heck ought to love #5.

      #7 & #10 ought to resonate with us, however I (like you & others) think Curry will be best playing inside in a 3-4, still covering a TE if we get a pash-rusher, or blitz if said pash-rusher isn't terrible at dropping back in coverage once or twice a quarter.

      Hopefully Mayock or King sent #8 to Mangini's blackberry.

      Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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        Thanks, Al.

        Heck ought to love #5.

        #7 & #10 ought to resonate with us, however I (like you & others) think Curry will be best playing inside in a 3-4, still covering a TE if we get a pash-rusher, or blitz if said pash-rusher isn't terrible at dropping back in coverage once or twice a quarter.

        Hopefully Mayock or King sent #8 to Mangini's blackberry.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        @legacy-fan said:

        Thanks, Al.

        Heck ought to love #5.

        #7 & #10 ought to resonate with us, however I (like you & others) think Curry will be best playing inside in a 3-4, still covering a TE if we get a pash-rusher, or blitz if said pash-rusher isn't terrible at dropping back in coverage once or twice a quarter.

        Hopefully Mayock or King sent #8 to Mangini's blackberry.

        You are still limiting his superior coverage ability and edge rush ability by playing him inside IMO.

        Not that he wouldn't do well...I just think you wouldn't be getting his maximum value.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          @legacy-fan said:

          Thanks, Al.

          Heck ought to love #5.

          #7 & #10 ought to resonate with us, however I (like you & others) think Curry will be best playing inside in a 3-4, still covering a TE if we get a pash-rusher, or blitz if said pash-rusher isn't terrible at dropping back in coverage once or twice a quarter.

          Hopefully Mayock or King sent #8 to Mangini's blackberry.

          You are still limiting his superior coverage ability and edge rush ability by playing him inside IMO.

          Not that he wouldn't do well...I just think you wouldn't be getting his maximum value.

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          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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          @ballpeen said:

          You are still limiting his superior coverage ability and edge rush ability by playing him inside IMO.

          Not that he wouldn't do well...I just think you wouldn't be getting his maximum value.

          Hopefully a former Belichick DC 😮 & a Ryan offspring could draw something up to get around where a premier athlete begins the play when the ball is snapped.

          Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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            ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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            Yeah, it shouldn't be too difficult. All Rob has to do is call Rex and ask him about the role he created for Bart Scott - a 3-4 SILB that stuffs the run, covers the slot, and occasionally blitzes off the edge. Ideally, that's what the Browns would do with Curry.

            As for Orakpo - I think he's much closer to being a DeMarcus Ware than a Vernon Gholston. He's by no means perfect, but he's got the tools to be an elite edge rusher.

            And if Mayock's going to mention how Pettigrew handled him in the Oklahoma State game, he should also mention how Orakpo mostly dominated OT Russell Okung. Okung's a future first round pick, but - like Phil Loadholt earlier in the year - he couldn't handle Orakpo's combination of strength and quickness.

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              Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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              Curry would be fantastic stuffing the run, if we got him as an inside guy. but we still need that LOLB that all 3-4 teams covet.

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