Camp Zeke
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I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him.
More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam...
#8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.
There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...
More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam...
#8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.
There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...
What are we getting back with our move down to #8 in your scenario?
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I still like doing the trade for Dallas to go to #4, they also giving us their 2e and 3rd round picks. We still get one of the best players out there....and we get those other high picks to fill holes.
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Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,
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Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?
We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?
We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.
Zombo
Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.
Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?
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Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,
Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,
Rumors have it that that is so.
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Zombo said:
Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?
We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.
Zombo
Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.
Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?
Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.
Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?
If you had a crystal ball....or a time machine in a DeLorean, you could see the future and tell which players will be beasts and which will be busts....and of course you take the beasts.
People thought Jamarcus Russell would be a beast. Turns out the only kind of beast he was was the kind the Whos in Whoville ate for Christmas dinner.
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couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.
it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.
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Zombo said:
Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?
We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.
Zombo
Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.
Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?
Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.
Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?
Jesus it's baffling that was 17 years ago.
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I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him.
More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam...
#8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.
There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...
Hopefully he has a child to beat so he can be suspended for a season or so thereby lengthening his productivity in the NFL ala AP.More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam...
#8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.
There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...
(sorry was that in bad taste?)
WSS
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I'm a Michigan fan
Zeke is a beast
Picking a HB that high is stupid
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.
it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.
Totally agree here.couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.
it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.
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Hopefully he has a child to beat so he can be suspended for a season or so thereby lengthening his productivity in the NFL ala AP.More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam...
#8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.
There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...
(sorry was that in bad taste?)
WSS
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I'm a Michigan fan
Zeke is a beast
Picking a HB that high is stupid
Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest.
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I'm a Michigan fan
Zeke is a beast
Picking a HB that high is stupid
Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest.
Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest.
fixed it for you.
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Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest.
fixed it for you.
fixed it for you.
Except I wasn't be sarcastic at all......that is what he says.
And Kiper is no worse or better than any other the other draft prognosticators out there.
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While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa?
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While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa?
While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa?
Opinions vary with Tunsil getting the least support and Bosa probably the most of the four you list, but there are more... Jack and Buckner also get mentions.
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While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa?
Opinions vary with Tunsil getting the least support and Bosa probably the most of the four you list, but there are more... Jack and Buckner also get mentions.
Opinions vary with Tunsil getting the least support and Bosa probably the most of the four you list, but there are more... Jack and Buckner also get mentions.
lol at this point, it does not matter
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lol at this point, it does not matter
Yup... the world changed again today.
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