Who would be your top overall "can't miss" guy coming out for the draft ever?
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Jim Brown
now if we are just talking who in the draft did we know would be a can't miss, maybe not the best player in the NFL, Chris Speilman, course that was from watching him play high school football, (in person) and collage, hell even some pick up games here and there.
I knew he was going to the NFL and I knew he would be successful.
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@inspecta said:
I'm not really understanding the question, it sorta reads like who is the best ever, which we can debate endlesslyIs this like who was the best late round grab?
The best player that lived up to their draft spot?
i interpreted the question as the best value pick. But after rereading it, i'm not sure.
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Im young and so far the most can't miss prospect so far has been Calvin Johnson IMO
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@inspecta said:
I'm not really understanding the question, it sorta reads like who is the best ever, which we can debate endlesslyIs this like who was the best late round grab?
The best player that lived up to their draft spot?
I'm sorry I couldn't quite get my point across clear enough... Who in your mind would be the safest pick no matter what because that player's talent was so immense that no team could go wrong picking that player and that players contribution to the team helped immensely.
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@inspecta said:
I'm not really understanding the question, it sorta reads like who is the best ever, which we can debate endlesslyIs this like who was the best late round grab?
The best player that lived up to their draft spot?
I'm sorry I couldn't quite get my point across clear enough... Who in your mind would be the safest pick no matter what because that player's talent was so immense that no team could go wrong picking that player and that players contribution to the team helped immensely.
no team could go wrong picking that player and that players contribution to the team helped immensely.
Earl Campbell
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I am going to throw a monkey wrench into this. Ernie Davis was one of the safest draft picks ever and look what happened.
Campbell and Brown were great picks. Campbell was as good as anyone in history for a few seasons.
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You need to ask a better question. Asking the best can't miss player "coming" out of the draft, -retroactively- is silly,
it logically ends up being the most successful, like Jim Brown, Joe Mantana. And there are reasons for a player's success or
not depending on the surrounding cast, systems, coaches...
"Coming" directly refers to the present. "Whoever came out of the draft" would be more precise.
But, to play along, I'd say Paul Warfield. Wait, he was very successful.. oh, never mind. Warfield was a Lynn Swann before there was a Swann.
Currently, the "can't miss" in THIS DRAFT would be Curry, LB, and Smith, OL.
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I would have a hard time tagging a receiver here as there are just too many variables.
My answer is Jim Brown...Big (bigger than many linebackers in his day), fast, strong, & tough as nails. Then he got to the NFL & proved it.
Mike
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You need to ask a better question. Asking the best can't miss player "coming" out of the draft, -retroactively- is silly,
it logically ends up being the most successful, like Jim Brown, Joe Mantana. And there are reasons for a player's success or
not depending on the surrounding cast, systems, coaches...
"Coming" directly refers to the present. "Whoever came out of the draft" would be more precise.
But, to play along, I'd say Paul Warfield. Wait, he was very successful.. oh, never mind. Warfield was a Lynn Swann before there was a Swann.
Currently, the "can't miss" in THIS DRAFT would be Curry, LB, and Smith, OL.
You need to ask a better question. Asking the best can't miss player "coming" out of the draft, -retroactively- is silly,
it logically ends up being the most successful, like Jim Brown, Joe Mantana. And there are reasons for a player's success or
not depending on the surrounding cast, systems, coaches...
"Coming" directly refers to the present. "Whoever came out of the draft" would be more precise.
But, to play along, I'd say Paul Warfield. Wait, he was very successful.. oh, never mind. Warfield was a Lynn Swann before there was a Swann.
Currently, the "can't miss" in THIS DRAFT would be Curry, LB, and Smith, OL.
So for this draft do you recomend picking Curry oor Smith if available?
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Yes, if you balance that with need. The best available player, say, WR, when you already have two all pro wr's, doesn't help your team significantly.
We don't need a LT, or I'd take Smith. We do need a great all around lb'er, and that's Curry.
If Curry is gone, you really have to take a serious eval of Orakpo or Raji. Or trade down. It's complicated. But taking the bop at the top
of the first round when you don't really need him, is not a dramatic impact player for your team.
But, I would say Smtih and Curry are the best sure things at the top of the draft.
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Yes, if you balance that with need. The best available player, say, WR, when you already have two all pro wr's, doesn't help your team significantly.
We don't need a LT, or I'd take Smith. We do need a great all around lb'er, and that's Curry.
If Curry is gone, you really have to take a serious eval of Orakpo or Raji. Or trade down. It's complicated. But taking the bop at the top
of the first round when you don't really need him, is not a dramatic impact player for your team.
But, I would say Smtih and Curry are the best sure things at the top of the draft.
Yes, if you balance that with need. The best available player, say, WR, when you already have two all pro wr's, doesn't help your team significantly.
We don't need a LT, or I'd take Smith. We do need a great all around lb'er, and that's Curry.
If Curry is gone, you really have to take a serious eval of Orakpo or Raji. Or trade down. It's complicated. But taking the bop at the top
of the first round when you don't really need him, is not a dramatic impact player for your team.
But, I would say Smtih and Curry are the best sure things at the top of the draft.
I would accept Curry as our #5 but if hes not there a scorer should be our focus at that point. If Curry is not there, then you focus on a trade for picks or players as another option.
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You guys will think I'm nuts but I viewed Kosar as one of the safest "Can't miss" picks ever.
I have never felt more sure of a guy's abilities despite things like his lack of speed and ugly passes.
Bernie, besides being extremely intelligent, (Grad in three years at Miami) had that special mental make up that just told me he was going to be a very good, if not great QB. I sure never felt better about any pick the Browns made.
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my bad for the ?

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Jim Brown from the old school, Payton Manning from the new.
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Jim Brown from the old school, Payton Manning from the new.
Jim Brown from the old school, Payton Manning from the new.
Tim Couch from the school with the short bus.
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Yes, if you balance that with need. The best available player, say, WR, when you already have two all pro wr's, doesn't help your team significantly.
We don't need a LT, or I'd take Smith. We do need a great all around lb'er, and that's Curry.
If Curry is gone, you really have to take a serious eval of Orakpo or Raji. Or trade down. It's complicated. But taking the bop at the top
of the first round when you don't really need him, is not a dramatic impact player for your team.
But, I would say Smtih and Curry are the best sure things at the top of the draft.
I would accept Curry as our #5 but if hes not there a scorer should be our focus at that point. If Curry is not there, then you focus on a trade for picks or players as another option.
I think that's pretty acurate. I believe Curry won't be there. We'll see - a trade down with extra serious high picks would be invaluable for the Browns this draft.
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I would accept Curry as our #5 but if hes not there a scorer should be our focus at that point. If Curry is not there, then you focus on a trade for picks or players as another option.
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