Who do you want at 8?
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It's fit and projection more than knee. I watched a good amount, and my draft nerd analyst friend has been adamantly against picking him since the season. He predicted the hype would blow up like it has too.
Being a SoCal guy and both USC & UCLA fan, I've seen each and every one of the kid's games, and he's the real deal. Play maker that stands out all over the field, much like E Rock or Troy Polamalu did. I knew both those guys would star in the NFL, and I have the same feeling about Jack based on several years of watching.
^ That being said, the knee has me a bit concerned.
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I know zero about Buckner. Any games that I should watch where he stands out?
I know zero about Buckner. Any games that I should watch where he stands out?
No. Buckner sucks.
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I know zero about Buckner. Any games that I should watch where he stands out?
No. Buckner sucks.
No. Buckner sucks.
Will you get off his ass. Its been 30 years now.
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Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
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Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
That mock also has the Browns taking Braxton Miller and the German kid to fill the WR holes. Walter's blood sugar must have been low.
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Only way I want them to take Lynch now is if they believed all along that he was the best QB in the draft.
I've changed my opinion of this deal... I like the players that are likely to be a available at that position and the picks gained more than make up the spot. I'm more disappointed in the Rams trade up to #1, because I think that cinched the Browns not getting their guy. The consolation prize at eight I don't think will be any worse than the one they would have selected at #2.
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Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
That mock also has the Browns taking Braxton Miller and the German kid to fill the WR holes. Walter's blood sugar must have been low.
That mock also has the Browns taking Braxton Miller and the German kid to fill the WR holes. Walter's blood sugar must have been low.
Ha- make it an OSU draft- Elliot, Decker, Miller, Jones.
Gip would say Bosa but my bet is he'll be gone by #8.
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Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
I totally agree but I just have a hard time seeing Elliot getting past Dallas. They need him right now to go deep in the playoffs with a healthy Romo.
He would be right up there with Smith and Dorsett as the best they ever had. Murray has proven with the Eagles that it was the OL not the RB, so think how much better that offense will be with Elliott.
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Here is how the first 7 picks could shake out: http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php
If it goes like this, we have to take Zeke IMO. Could be a dynamic running offense next year.
I totally agree but I just have a hard time seeing Elliot getting past Dallas. They need him right now to go deep in the playoffs with a healthy Romo.
He would be right up there with Smith and Dorsett as the best they ever had. Murray has proven with the Eagles that it was the OL not the RB, so think how much better that offense will be with Elliott.
I totally agree but I just have a hard time seeing Elliot getting past Dallas. They need him right now to go deep in the playoffs with a healthy Romo.
They can have him. Elliott is undoubtedly a talented player and will fit in pretty much any team and scheme. But we don't need that - we just need someone who can excel in our scheme.
We can pick up an Alfred Morris type much later and address areas that are harder to fill as the draft goes on.
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Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
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Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
I wouldn't cry about it for sure, I just don't think it is the best use of resources. It'll certainly keep fans more engaged than, say, tunsil.Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
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Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
Charlie Casserly this morning says Dallas takes Bosa and Zeke falls to the Browns.
Edit: Here are the rest of them on NFL.com this morning.
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My two absolute favorite guys are Jaylon Smith, linebacker from ND, and Myles Jack, linebacker from UCLA. Now damn our bad luck for them BOTH having severe knee injuries. Jack seems to be way better off than Smith, but can our franchise...the snake-bitten franchise from hell...really take a gamble on a bad knee? I just don't think so. Not UNLESS his medical re-check went PERFECT. We desperately need a badass, playmaking stud in the middle of our defense. Lord we need it.
My gut tells me we simply CAN'T gamble on an injured player. Not the Browns...not now. The more I start to look at the teams in front of us, the more I honestly believe DeForest Buckner will be our pick. He just feels like he fills such a big need. We need run stopping help, and pass rushing help. Generally 3-4 DE's aren't known for their sack numbers, but a few are. This guy Buckner fills up the stat sheet in all the right ways. Just makes so much sense. I love Ramsey, but he won't get past the Ravens...who are desperately in need of secondary help. Lord, I hate the Ravens, and they will get my favorite guy. Dammit.
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Need?
Well we arguably need a blue-chip quarterback and they've decided to pass on that. Personally I think a blue-chip running back in the manner of an Adrian Peterson could be a blessing for this team.
So I'd have no bitch with picking up Ezekiel Elliott. I don't expect it to happen but I'm fine with it.
WSS
Charlie Casserly this morning says Dallas takes Bosa and Zeke falls to the Browns.
Edit: Here are the rest of them on NFL.com this morning.
Charlie Casserly this morning says Dallas takes Bosa and Zeke falls to the Browns.
Edit: Here are the rest of them on NFL.com this morning.
When asked he also said he expects Browns to trade out of 8
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My two absolute favorite guys are Jaylon Smith, linebacker from ND, and Myles Jack, linebacker from UCLA. Now damn our bad luck for them BOTH having severe knee injuries. Jack seems to be way better off than Smith, but can our franchise...the snake-bitten franchise from hell...really take a gamble on a bad knee? I just don't think so. Not UNLESS his medical re-check went PERFECT. We desperately need a badass, playmaking stud in the middle of our defense. Lord we need it.
My gut tells me we simply CAN'T gamble on an injured player. Not the Browns...not now. The more I start to look at the teams in front of us, the more I honestly believe DeForest Buckner will be our pick. He just feels like he fills such a big need. We need run stopping help, and pass rushing help. Generally 3-4 DE's aren't known for their sack numbers, but a few are. This guy Buckner fills up the stat sheet in all the right ways. Just makes so much sense. I love Ramsey, but he won't get past the Ravens...who are desperately in need of secondary help. Lord, I hate the Ravens, and they will get my favorite guy. Dammit.
My two absolute favorite guys are Jaylon Smith, linebacker from ND, and Myles Jack, linebacker from UCLA. Now damn our bad luck for them BOTH having severe knee injuries. Jack seems to be way better off than Smith, but can our franchise...the snake-bitten franchise from hell...really take a gamble on a bad knee? I just don't think so. Not UNLESS his medical re-check went PERFECT. We desperately need a badass, playmaking stud in the middle of our defense. Lord we need it.
My gut tells me we simply CAN'T gamble on an injured player. Not the Browns...not now. The more I start to look at the teams in front of us, the more I honestly believe DeForest Buckner will be our pick. He just feels like he fills such a big need. We need run stopping help, and pass rushing help. Generally 3-4 DE's aren't known for their sack numbers, but a few are. This guy Buckner fills up the stat sheet in all the right ways. Just makes so much sense. I love Ramsey, but he won't get past the Ravens...who are desperately in need of secondary help. Lord, I hate the Ravens, and they will get my favorite guy. Dammit.
If anyone can it will be us or SF, with the number of picks we have. If he is slipping like lattimoere a few years ago then a day three pick is very low risk, huge reward.
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I totally agree but I just have a hard time seeing Elliot getting past Dallas. They need him right now to go deep in the playoffs with a healthy Romo.
They can have him. Elliott is undoubtedly a talented player and will fit in pretty much any team and scheme. But we don't need that - we just need someone who can excel in our scheme.
We can pick up an Alfred Morris type much later and address areas that are harder to fill as the draft goes on.
We can pick up an Alfred Morris type much later and address areas that are harder to fill as the draft goes on.
Problem is who is that and will we be in a position to take them?
I love two Day 2 RBs that I think would not duplicate either of our tandem of Crow & Duke, LaTech's Dixon and Arkansas' Williams. But the former is a likely late 2nd/early 3rd and the latter a 3/4, and there are so many other players lining up for Day 2.
Any RBs you see falling to Day 3?
I wouldn't cry about it for sure, I just don't think it is the best use of resources. It'll certainly keep fans more engaged than, say, tunsil.
Well.... taking Tunsil then turning around and trading Joe for a R1 and change would certainly "engage the fans"...
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Now, if he's not there, than I think it's time to look at Bosa...even though I REALLY don't want him. According to our radio guys, and various other news reports, Bosa is better tailored to be a 4-3 DE. This is NOT to say that he can't learn the OLB position, but for immediate impact, I believe it's safe to say that he will be a situational player, and not an immediate starter. This is normal for many college pass rushers that make the transition to OLB in the pros.
Except for the fact that you are missing the obvious: Bosa would play DE in the 3-4, not OLB....and he would be fine doing so.
He is not a niche player.
Except for the fact that you are missing the obvious: Bosa would play DE in the 3-4, not OLB....and he would be fine doing so.
He is not a niche player.
I think he'd move back and forth in our system. There's absolutely nothing that Horton asks of Kruger that Bosa can't learn to do and probably do better. Bosa is a strict jack OLB'er.
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I'm starting to talk myself into Zeke Elliott, and it's starting to feel really good. What better way to protect your QB than to draft a RB that can do it all? I didn't watch too much of Zeke, but I'm pretty sure he's a 3 down back. We could also run some two back sets with him and Duke, and get a little creative. In a round about way, a powerful running back can also help the defense. If we can keep the ball on the ground, extend some drives, use some clock...then our defense gets to rest. I know it's a stretch, but it kind of makes a little sense, right? (I can talk myself into anything btw).
But guys, the more I read about the #8 pick, the more I'm almost CERTAIN that we're trading back once again. It appears to be either with the Dolphins at 13, or the QB needy Jets at 20. Obviously, #13 sounds infinitely better than 20, but I'd take either one at this point. I'd say a deal to move back is almost certain at this point. Oh, and want another? It would NOT surprise me to see us trade Joe Thomas on Day 1 too. Watch us trade him to someone like the Broncos for their late first round pick. IF that happens, we'll take Ronnie Stanley or Conklin with our first pick. I think it's about to get crazy next week, boys.
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