Mike Pettine Interview
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Yea, a poor job done all around: Pettine too as well as Farmer, Haslam.
The one thing that was not asked was his continued support of DC Jim O'Neill....whom it is clear to all of us was way over his head in that job....or just plain incompetent. Or, perhaps the blame for the bad, bad defense should be laid where the buck stops: Pettine and not O'Neil.
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farmer - manziel. The notorious connection of disaster.
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I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
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I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
Agreed. the Browns would be much further along if they had just listened to us fans. It goes all the way back to 1999.
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I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
Agreed. the Browns would be much further along if they had just listened to us fans. It goes all the way back to 1999.
Agreed. the Browns would be much further along if they had just listened to us fans. It goes all the way back to 1999.
Well certainly when it comes to the first/second rounds I do not believe the fans could have done any worse, in fact the would have done better. I too never wanted to trade down for Gilbert I wanted Mack or Sammy Watkins, hopefully Sashi and company can make solid picks and not continue to the trade down mess any further.
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A change from draft talk for a little while.
“The two guys we felt good about were [Derek] Carr and [Jimmy] Garoppolo,” Pettine said Tuesday. “Just projecting the guys we thought would be there, we all thought [Teddy] Bridgewater would be gone.”
A change from draft talk for a little while.
God, makes me sad reading it.
Like Opal alluded to, the browns have remarkably drafted worse than any one of us would have.
Even Poe G ... he was all over Derek Carr. Lot's of guys had Mack.
I see it every year. This year, I like Buckner and Lynch.
Maybe they will both be gone, maybe we will trade and be drafting in different spots ... but ... for once ... I'd like for the Browns to do better than me.
Zombo
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I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
Farmer et al are not as smart as you my dear.
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A change from draft talk for a little while.
God, makes me sad reading it.
Like Opal alluded to, the browns have remarkably drafted worse than any one of us would have.
Even Poe G ... he was all over Derek Carr. Lot's of guys had Mack.
I see it every year. This year, I like Buckner and Lynch.
Maybe they will both be gone, maybe we will trade and be drafting in different spots ... but ... for once ... I'd like for the Browns to do better than me.
Zombo
Zombo said:
God, makes me sad reading it.
Like Opal alluded to, the browns have remarkably drafted worse than any one of us would have.
Even Poe G ... he was all over Derek Carr. Lot's of guys had Mack.
I see it every year. This year, I like Buckner and Lynch.
Maybe they will both be gone, maybe we will trade and be drafting in different spots ... but ... for once ... I'd like for the Browns to do better than me.
Zombo
Exactly Z. Ladanian Tomlinson would have been a Brown, as well as Clay Matthews Jr. Butterfingers Braylon and Johnny Football would have been another teams problem.
Now with the Cleveland slant- I won't be upset if we draft Cardale- if he's still there in a round Sashi & company deem appropriate.
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I'm a 60 year old woman who had in my mock draft Kalhil Mack-Derek Carr. I never wavered. How do professionals like Farmer & Pettine wind up with Gilbert at 8?
Thanks to Pettine & Farmer we are now in a total rebuilding stage with no wide receivers, running back, QB, pass rush, secondary, on and on it goes!
Agreed. the Browns would be much further along if they had just listened to us fans. It goes all the way back to 1999.
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I'm tellin' ya, chickens and darts puts in the playoffs in a couple a years!
Not monkeys though. Too much like the pickers since '99.
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I'm tellin' ya, chickens and darts puts in the playoffs in a couple a years!
Not monkeys though. Too much like the pickers since '99.
I'm tellin' ya, chickens and darts puts in the playoffs in a couple a years!
Not monkeys though. Too much like the pickers since '99.
Ag, it was scientifically proven- Chickens could have done a better job of drafting than Ray Farmer.
http://fox8.com/2015/12/21/mike-polk-asks-who-is-better-at-drafting-chickens-or-cleveland-browns/
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/23/10661252/cleveland-browns-vs-barnyard-chickens
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The Three Stooges? But it's not funny anymore.

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Pettine, Haslem and Obammy.
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Stop bringing up mack, that ones more painful than watt cause at least with watt he was projected as a 4-3 guy and we weren't running that then. Mack just fit on all levels. I was screaming that Mack was perfect as he could also play ilb'er and potentially take over as the cpt of the defense in a few years....and this year didn't he make the pro bowl as both inside and outside lb'er? Fucking sick.
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Watt was projected as a 4-3 guy?
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Watt was projected as a 4-3 guy?
You really need to start thinking about shedding the 4-3 3-4 labels in the classic sense many of you toss around.
That said, I seem to remember through a drunken haze that our front office said Johnny was the #1 guy on their board at the QB spot. Now they're saying he was not the number one player on their board at the time.
Like many of us know, Johnny was Haslam's pick. I hope that one year of increased season ticket sales was worth it, jackass. I wanted Roby, Carr, Filo, Hyde... ANYONE but Manziel when we got to 22.
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Stop bringing up mack, that ones more painful than watt cause at least with watt he was projected as a 4-3 guy and we weren't running that then. Mack just fit on all levels. I was screaming that Mack was perfect as he could also play ilb'er and potentially take over as the cpt of the defense in a few years....and this year didn't he make the pro bowl as both inside and outside lb'er? Fucking sick.
I was screaming that Mack was perfect...
I remember, but more muted since we really did not think Mack was ever going to get to us at #4.
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Watt was projected as a 4-3 guy?
You really need to start thinking about shedding the 4-3 3-4 labels in the classic sense many of you toss around.
That said, I seem to remember through a drunken haze that our front office said Johnny was the #1 guy on their board at the QB spot. Now they're saying he was not the number one player on their board at the time.
Like many of us know, Johnny was Haslam's pick. I hope that one year of increased season ticket sales was worth it, jackass. I wanted Roby, Carr, Filo, Hyde... ANYONE but Manziel when we got to 22.
Like many of us know, Johnny was Haslam's pick. I hope that one year of increased season ticket sales was worth it, jackass. I wanted Roby, Carr, Filo, Hyde... ANYONE but Manziel when we got to 22.
That's pretty much plain as mud now. I hope Jimmuh has learned his lesson to not take advice from homeless guys, and Sashi told him as the owner, he can still sit in the War Room- but we're going to duct tape your mouth.
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