Corey Coleman !
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Is it a whine to wonder if he is a #1 WR? Is so, then I'm a whiner.
What I see is a Benji replacement with a couple more branches on his rookie route tree and an interest in fighting for a ball. Not nothing, but not a #1.
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Interesting
Touchdowns = On base percentage
moneyball
Got nothing on "yards per route"... is that even a thing?
From PFF's Round One Grades...
15. Cleveland Browns: Corey Coleman | Grade: A
(Pick acquired in trade with Tennessee Titans)
Our top receiver is off the board as Corey Coleman goes to Cleveland. He’s dynamic both before and after the catch, capable of separating as well as any receiver in the draft and then taking it to the house after he catches it. Coleman posted a ridiculous 4.88 yards per route (best in the nation) before a poor quarterback situation hurt his production. His 10 drops are cause for some concern, but not nearly enough to offset what he brings to the table as both a short and deep threat. Even with his limited experience running a number of routes in Baylor’s offense, Coleman has all of the skills to separate on any type of route once he transitions to the NFL.
Got nothing on "yards per route"... is that even a thing?
From PFF's Round One Grades...
15. Cleveland Browns: Corey Coleman | Grade: A
(Pick acquired in trade with Tennessee Titans)
Our top receiver is off the board as Corey Coleman goes to Cleveland. Hes dynamic both before and after the catch, capable of separating as well as any receiver in the draft and then taking it to the house after he catches it. Coleman posted a ridiculous 4.88 yards per route (best in the nation) before a poor quarterback situation hurt his production. His 10 drops are cause for some concern, but not nearly enough to offset what he brings to the table as both a short and deep threat. Even with his limited experience running a number of routes in Baylors offense, Coleman has all of the skills to separate on any type of route once he transitions to the NFL.
Unfortunately we have a poor quarterback situation
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I remember the JFF youtube highlights. Means nothing.
Really... even vs. on-field performance?
Unfortunately we have a poor quarterback situation
Not anymore...
"Cody Kessler to the res-cue...
Go Cody Kesller, GoCody Kessler..."
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Tour's drunk.
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Visual of CC's route tree at Baylor...
Browns make a refreshing first pick in their new analytics era
By Matt Harmon April 29 at 1:33 PM
Not a single out route... curious...
Full article here:
Visual of CC's route tree at Baylor...
Browns make a refreshing first pick in their new analytics era
By Matt Harmon April 29 at 1:33 PMNot a single out route... curious...
Full article here:
I've had plenty of people telling me he's going to the slot. Wrongo.... That's why I was interested in Braxton earlier.
He's a straight line burner that uses his speed to threaten deep and when the CB backs off they toss him a slant or curl.
Seriously, go check out the WVU tape and others I saw. He dropped one slant, they went right back to him again on 2 more consecutive slants.
As for why you don't see the 5, 6 or 7 with Corey is because it takes away his greatest attribute - YAC. It gives no benefit to Briles if his fastest weapon isn't pointed back into the interior of the field.
Get him on a slant or screen and he's easily in space. Get him on the fly? Cool.. he'll roast a CB that doesn't have help. The curl is the counter. Everything else? Not necessary at Baylor.
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Visual of CC's route tree at Baylor...
Browns make a refreshing first pick in their new analytics era
By Matt Harmon April 29 at 1:33 PMNot a single out route... curious...
Full article here:
I've had plenty of people telling me he's going to the slot. Wrongo.... That's why I was interested in Braxton earlier.
He's a straight line burner that uses his speed to threaten deep and when the CB backs off they toss him a slant or curl.
Seriously, go check out the WVU tape and others I saw. He dropped one slant, they went right back to him again on 2 more consecutive slants.
As for why you don't see the 5, 6 or 7 with Corey is because it takes away his greatest attribute - YAC. It gives no benefit to Briles if his fastest weapon isn't pointed back into the interior of the field.
Get him on a slant or screen and he's easily in space. Get him on the fly? Cool.. he'll roast a CB that doesn't have help. The curl is the counter. Everything else? Not necessary at Baylor.
As for why you don't see the 5, 6 or 7 with Corey is because it takes away his greatest attribute - YAC.
Also not exactly the "go to" hands on 3rd and 5?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Also not exactly the "go to" hands on 3rd and 5?
He might be like Steve Smith physically, but Smitty could catch a bb in the dark. This kid ain't that.
Not to say he's Greg Little either. He isn't the best pair of hands on this team, I don't know enough about Baylor's skill players to comment on his college team either.
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CC's hands measured at the dreaded 9....
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
CC's hands measured at the dreaded 9....
Handsize might be an issue. CC doesn't always catch the ball away from his body.
The two most important things to me that any (good) receiver should have before I draft them are lights out hands, and good footwork. He needs serious improvement on both of those before he's a starter. As its stands he's relied on scheme and straight line speed. Which brings me back to the receiver I wanted that doesn't possess either issue.
Oh and if I hear the "zomg 20 touchdowns" thing again... People truly need to understand that if there is a decent receiver in Baylor's offense, they'll get double digit TD's without too much trouble.
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I see him as picking up where Benji left off. Filling our deep threat, stretch the D role with an incomplete route tree and the odd drop here and there. However, CC is offering more upside... I think Benji maxxed out last season.
Agree?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I see him as picking up where Benji left off. Filling our deep threat, stretch the D role with an incomplete route tree and the odd drop here and there. However, CC is offering more upside... I think Benji maxxed out last season.
Agree?
I see him as picking up where Benji left off. Filling our deep threat, stretch the D role with an incomplete route tree and the odd drop here and there. However, CC is offering more upside... I think Benji maxxed out last season.
Agree?
Much more upside. Agree completely.
edit: I would be lying if I said I would have spent a 15 pick on that type of role/player. This is a vision Shashi and this coaching staff has for this kid. If you want a good glimpse of how long this coaching staff and Mr Brown might last, CC's development arch and contributions might give us an indication whether or not this is the long haul.
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CC's hands measured at the dreaded 9....
Handsize might be an issue. CC doesn't always catch the ball away from his body.
The two most important things to me that any (good) receiver should have before I draft them are lights out hands, and good footwork. He needs serious improvement on both of those before he's a starter. As its stands he's relied on scheme and straight line speed. Which brings me back to the receiver I wanted that doesn't possess either issue.
Oh and if I hear the "zomg 20 touchdowns" thing again... People truly need to understand that if there is a decent receiver in Baylor's offense, they'll get double digit TD's without too much trouble.
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I remember the JFF youtube highlights. Means nothing.
Really... even vs. on-field performance?
Unfortunately we have a poor quarterback situation
Not anymore...
"Cody Kessler to the res-cue...
Go Cody Kesller, GoCody Kessler..."
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If cody kessler somehow comes out of nowhere and takes the team to even the wild card round you guys will be on your damn knees for him.
Gotta better chance of meeting Jesus next year than a Browns playoff game
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If cody kessler somehow comes out of nowhere and takes the team to even the wild card round you guys will be on your damn knees for him.
Gotta better chance of meeting Jesus next year than a Browns playoff game
Why does a non browns fan Celtics lover post here so often?Gotta better chance of meeting Jesus next year than a Browns playoff game
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Why does a non browns fan Celtics lover post here so often?Gotta better chance of meeting Jesus next year than a Browns playoff game
Why does a non browns fan Celtics lover post here so often?
Can be a Browns fan without being sunshine pumper. The team is a dumpster fire but they're still my team.
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Where are you from that you're a browns and Celtics fan
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