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  • flyingfooldoug flyingfooldougF One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    Say what you will but until someone actually does something on the playing field, it's all bust!

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      jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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      I've been seeing way worse grades, but like others have said, have to wait a few years. Trading out of the back to back 3rd rounders infuriated me. And Cody Kessler? REALLY?

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        J joedawg69 wrote on last edited by
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        If we are grading on character, I think we would be high. If we are grading on media attention, I think we would be very low. If someone is trying to grade on football skills at the NFL level; then, they are just full of it since none of the prospects have shown any skill at the NFL level and it is all guessing. I get it, we all have our own opinions about the prospects but I am not ready to call this a bust just because Hue and the gang did not go for the media kids. I am not saying they made good choices but I can't say they made bad choices yet either. Just saying.

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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          Ya know I agree with you here, Joe.

          I was a little bit disappointed we didn't grab any of those players who have been in the spotlight but none of the kids we took seem like anything less than good people and quality players. I was mistaken with my prediction and that's a good thing. Not sold on Sashi Brown and this whole Analytics crap in particular, but hope that I'll be proved wrong there too.

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            cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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            We didnt draft a qb at pick 22 in the 1st. We will be fine. If 5 of the 14 players taken yesterday make impacts on this team, thats a win. The bigger win was getting the extra picks for next years draft. Baltimore drafts well most of the time, thats why they are also in the Playoffs. Anyone can grade a draft, what the media draft guys are projecting is the "same old Browns". Let this front office do its thing for 3 years and then we can see how they did. I for one am looking for RG3 to have a historic comeback year and be our QB for the next 10 years. If he pans out, that will make future drafts that much easier. If he dont pan out this year, we draft another one next year.

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            • T TexasAg1969

              A bit underwhelming ratings in the media.

              CBS: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25573635/priscos-nfl-draft-grades-32-grades-for-32-teams-but-only-one-a

              SI: http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/30/nfl-draft-grades-teams-winners-losers-picks-analysis

              USAToday: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2016/04/30/nfl-draft-grades-picks-class-analysis-rounds/83771600/

              ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/203402/thumbs-up-thumbs-down-for-each-teams-2016-nfl-draft-class

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              dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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              @texasag1969 said:

              A bit underwhelming ratings in the media.

              CBS: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25573635/priscos-nfl-draft-grades-32-grades-for-32-teams-but-only-one-a

              SI: http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/30/nfl-draft-grades-teams-winners-losers-picks-analysis

              USAToday: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2016/04/30/nfl-draft-grades-picks-class-analysis-rounds/83771600/

              ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/203402/thumbs-up-thumbs-down-for-each-teams-2016-nfl-draft-class

              This all adds up to "who give a crap". We'll see what we have when they get on the field.

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              • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                Trent Richardson draft grade: A

                John Manziel draft grade: A-

                Justin Gilbert draft grade: A

                Russell Wilson draft grade: C-

                Fuck draft grades given out in the days after the draft.

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                • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                  @miktoxic said:

                  grading a draft already? how about give it 3 years?

                  we as fans have all thought players the browns have picked will be 'building on the lines' or 'bring it in the front 7' and all have sucked dick. and they bigger named dick suckers than these chumps sashi and co. have adorned us with so far this year.

                  "We have to wait three years to grade a draft class. This one sucks dick."

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @logicisforsquares said:

                  "We have to wait three years to grade a draft class. This one sucks dick."

                  HA HA HA HA!

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    One PostO One Post wrote on last edited by
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                    Will someone plz give mixtoxic a shot of Jack? Lighten up dude!

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                      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                      I wonder what they graded Tom Brady back then? Probably a C- And who graded Gilbert and Manziel? These Sports analysts like Mel Kiper Jr get kick backs. Of course the media will never tell you that! But Kiper rated Jimmy Clausen a top ten and fooled the Panthers into drafting him.

                      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                        darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                        Got a good hammering from McShay and Kiper

                        McShay said Ogbah was a reach ....WTF really

                        And Kiper gave us a C and basically said we suck while raving about his beloved Ravens .......if we and the Ravens swapped drafts Kiper's grades would of been the same

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                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                          Well Tour was raving about the Ravens draft and I don't think they are beloved to him.

                          Anyway we spend too much time getting pissed off when prognosticator predict Doom and Gloom and suckioity.

                          If and when we prove them wrong it will be that much more fun.

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                          • darren15D darren15

                            Got a good hammering from McShay and Kiper

                            McShay said Ogbah was a reach ....WTF really

                            And Kiper gave us a C and basically said we suck while raving about his beloved Ravens .......if we and the Ravens swapped drafts Kiper's grades would of been the same

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @darren15 said:

                            Got a good hammering from McShay and Kiper

                            McShay said Ogbah was a reach ....WTF really

                            And Kiper gave us a C and basically said we suck while raving about his beloved Ravens .......if we and the Ravens swapped drafts Kiper's grades would of been the same

                            Yea, I heard him this morning saying the Ravens got guys to fill their needs.......yet the Browns get guys to fill their needs....and give gives them a bad grade. Purely homerville.

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                              @darren15 said:

                              Got a good hammering from McShay and Kiper

                              McShay said Ogbah was a reach ....WTF really

                              And Kiper gave us a C and basically said we suck while raving about his beloved Ravens .......if we and the Ravens swapped drafts Kiper's grades would of been the same

                              Yea, I heard him this morning saying the Ravens got guys to fill their needs.......yet the Browns get guys to fill their needs....and give gives them a bad grade. Purely homerville.

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Yea, I heard him this morning saying the Ravens got guys to fill their needs.......yet the Browns get guys to fill their needs....and give gives them a bad grade. Purely homerville.

                              Maybe. Seems like they went overboard on receivers.

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Yea, I heard him this morning saying the Ravens got guys to fill their needs.......yet the Browns get guys to fill their needs....and give gives them a bad grade. Purely homerville.

                                Maybe. Seems like they went overboard on receivers.

                                WSS

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Maybe. Seems like they went overboard on receivers.

                                WSS

                                14 picks, 4 WRs, 1 TE. We needed firepower no doubt, so going overboard may have been the necessary tactic, since we had so many picks.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  It's always safe to say a team that tends to have winning

                                  seasons had a real good draft.

                                  and a team that has losing seasons can draft great, but it

                                  isn't really great because the team is still not a winner.

                                  I keep seeing the rankings as not taking red flags/character/work ethic/football IQ/love for the game..

                                  into consideration. Gilbert was ranked way high...

                                  the Browns have been burned by that so often... and they didn't make that mistake in this draft.

                                  That should warrant an "A+" right there.

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                                    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                    Man, if you don't like and feel good about where we are going after this 17:30 video, then I don't know what else you could want.

                                    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-draft-class-expected-to-leave-a-stamp-and-5-last-things-to-know-from-Day-3/c367d276-0d50-4a26-befe-107545327e45

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                                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                                      @darren15 said:

                                      Got a good hammering from McShay and Kiper

                                      McShay said Ogbah was a reach ....WTF really

                                      And Kiper gave us a C and basically said we suck while raving about his beloved Ravens .......if we and the Ravens swapped drafts Kiper's grades would of been the same

                                      Yea, I heard him this morning saying the Ravens got guys to fill their needs.......yet the Browns get guys to fill their needs....and give gives them a bad grade. Purely homerville.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      Yup... I liked the Ravens draft... as any traditional draft follower should.

                                      The Cleveland Browns are no longer traditional drafters and thus will be hated by the Kipers and McShays of the world.

                                      Look at who loves (or at least like) our draft... analytics sites like PFF.

                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Purely homerville.

                                      Nah... not homer, just stuck in a different system of evaluating and valuing players... As is everyone here.

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