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  • C Clevfan4life

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    @clevfan4life said:

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

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    DieHardBrownsFanD C 2 Replies
  • W Westside Steve

    @clevfan4life said:

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

    If it was a white kid they would have said he should have known better, the parents would not have received a dime, and the mother sure as hell wouldn't be a speaker at Kent.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • W Westside Steve

    @clevfan4life said:

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

    Wait, who are u talking about now? Cause u said he threatened the police.. Were u referring to something else and I misunderstood?

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

    P 1 Reply

  • He threatened the police thus got his demise. Sensible people don't act like that unless they want dealt with.

    https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks

  • Don't be like edward, Cleve. Read up on what really happened.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/12/indisputable_images_of_tamir_r.html

    and the safety orange tip was REMOVED, making the gun look REAL.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/06/tamir_rices_friend_says_he_rem.html

    So, tamir rice PULLED a REAL LOOKING GUN OUT OF HIS WAISTBAND,

    WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE POLICE.

    that's gangsta garbage. I hope the rice family loses the millions on appeal. Stupid decision to award it.

    probably afraid of ObaMao's racist Injustice Dept.

    Browns149B 1 Reply

  • I didn't say they deserved 6m cal. I'm just saying we know he didn't "threaten" cops with an air soft gun. He was a stupid kid who obviously panicked and pulled it to show it was fake.....I don't blame the cop, but at the same time if he hadn't pulled up within 5ft of the kid which is a major procedural error, kid would be alive. If it had been an adult with a real gun the idiot cop would probably have ate a round at close range.

  • But to be clear the little kid should not have been playing in a public park with a BB gun, even if it was painted clown orange. You can't be firing off bb's in a public space, utterly Retarded of the parents to buy that for the kid

  • C Clevfan4life

    Wait, who are u talking about now? Cause u said he threatened the police.. Were u referring to something else and I misunderstood?

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes he did Cleve. He was brandishing what appeared to be a real weapon, and if you want to talk legally it would be considered an assault toward the old fellow who phoned the threat. So let's not pretend. Is it sad? Yes it is. Did the kid know any better? Probably not. Should his parent? definitely

    But at the end of the day it was an accident.

    And it doesn't have much to do with May 4th.

    WSS

    @clevfan4life said:

    Wait, who are u talking about now? Cause u said he threatened the police.. Were u referring to something else and I misunderstood?

    Well he pointed a gun at them. That's usually called a threat.

    :neutral_face:
    T 1 Reply
  • C Clevfan4life

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    @clevfan4life said:

    ok let's back up here a minute, steve...tamir rice didn't "threaten" police. He was in the middle of screaming it's just a bb gun as he was pulling it out. I'm not faulting the cop now so put a sock in it anybody that was itchng to jump in here. The cops gets a report a kid is walking around in a park waving a real gun around. Did the cop pull to close yes obviously......and the kid was walking around the park acting like a ngr and apparently his family either wasn't aware he did this or didn't care.

    But please let's not embellish what actually happened just so a point can be made. The kid did not threaten no cops with nothin.

    This is literally the first time I've heard he was screaming "it's just a bb gun"

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • P Pumpkin Eater

    @clevfan4life said:

    Wait, who are u talking about now? Cause u said he threatened the police.. Were u referring to something else and I misunderstood?

    Well he pointed a gun at them. That's usually called a threat.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Well he pointed a gun at them. That's usually called a threat.

    Actually he didn't point the gun at them. It was in his waistband. He was supposedly reaching for it

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • I love the way people make up shit like its the truth.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • I heard from a friend that he was down there to feed the homeless and that he told the cops "this is only a toy. god bless you, officers" right before they shot the kid 89 times and peed on his corpse.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    I heard from a friend that he was down there to feed the homeless and that he told the cops "this is only a toy. god bless you, officers" right before they shot the kid 89 times and peed on his corpse.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I heard from a friend that he was down there to feed the homeless and that he told the cops "this is only a toy. god bless you, officers" right before they shot the kid 89 times and peed on his corpse.

    Cleveland Cops rarely see black kids, so they had to take the opportunity when it presented itself you know.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I heard from a friend that he was down there to feed the homeless and that he told the cops "this is only a toy. god bless you, officers" right before they shot the kid 89 times and peed on his corpse.

    Cleveland Cops rarely see black kids, so they had to take the opportunity when it presented itself you know.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Cleveland Cops rarely see black kids, so they had to take the opportunity when it presented itself you know.

    They thought he was badly burned and wanted to put him out of his misery.

  • What happened to the actual incident audio? I distinctly remember the surveillance video being accompanied by a recording made by the officers patrol car. I can't find that now.

    I hadn't heard the 911 calls before though. I mean wtf the kids family was nearby while he was prancing around like that?

  • That I did not know

  • C calfoxwc

    Don't be like edward, Cleve. Read up on what really happened.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/12/indisputable_images_of_tamir_r.html

    and the safety orange tip was REMOVED, making the gun look REAL.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/06/tamir_rices_friend_says_he_rem.html

    So, tamir rice PULLED a REAL LOOKING GUN OUT OF HIS WAISTBAND,

    WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE POLICE.

    that's gangsta garbage. I hope the rice family loses the millions on appeal. Stupid decision to award it.

    probably afraid of ObaMao's racist Injustice Dept.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Don't be like edward, Cleve. Read up on what really happened.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/12/indisputable_images_of_tamir_r.html

    and the safety orange tip was REMOVED, making the gun look REAL.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/06/tamir_rices_friend_says_he_rem.html

    So, tamir rice PULLED a REAL LOOKING GUN OUT OF HIS WAISTBAND,

    WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE POLICE.

    that's gangsta garbage. I hope the rice family loses the millions on appeal. Stupid decision to award it.

    probably afraid of ObaMao's racist Injustice Dept.

    I don't think the money is subject to appeal. The city SETTLED with the family.
    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Did anyone see that the city wants to tear down the gazebo but now the Smithsonian Museum wants to save it?

    http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2016/05/smithsonian_institution_seeks.html

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    Did anyone see that the city wants to tear down the gazebo but now the Smithsonian Museum wants to save it?

    http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2016/05/smithsonian_institution_seeks.html

    @browns149 said:

    Did anyone see that the city wants to tear down the gazebo but now the Smithsonian Museum wants to save it?

    http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2016/05/smithsonian_institution_seeks.html

    Jesus. Black Lives Matter wants it preserved. If I were a racist turd, I would turn it into a tourist attraction. "Here we are next to the blood stain!"

  • The video shows him drawing the weapon towards the cops.

    :neutral_face:
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