So You're Saying There's a BETTER Chance...
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let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
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let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
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All the new receivers will benefit from having the best wide receiver coach in football coaching them .....
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let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
yep. i guess pettine let loyalty cloud his vision as o'neill sucked ass.
i know there are schemes involved and yada yada but WHEN will these DCs just draft people and let them play the way they've always played instead of trying to change them into something they're not?
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we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.
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let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries
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Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries
How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries
Indeed.
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possible deep playoff run in year 8 or so....fooling yourselves if you think it's going to happen any sooner.
possible deep playoff run in year 8 or so....fooling yourselves if you think it's going to happen any sooner.
The first part of your sentence is your opinion...but no one is fooling themselves if they believe the browns can do it 4 you dickwad.
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we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.
we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.
Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.
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There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.
There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.
Na nu Na nu.
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we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.
Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.
Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.
Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.
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Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.
Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.
Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.
OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft
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Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.
OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft
And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.
For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.
Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.
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And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.
For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.
Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.
And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.
For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.
Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.
Drafted QBs:
Hackenberg
Cook
Jones
Goff
Just an example, as requested.
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let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.
Not a big "Whore-ton" fan.. while he maybe intelligent and knowledgible.. I find his weekly press conferances a distraction to the team much in the same way Rob Ryans was.. the only difference being is "Whore-ton" may not come off as obnoxious. And I just see whore-ton as someone with a personal agenda to get his own head coacing gig.
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There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.
There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.
i'd rather drive my expectations so low that a 4-5 win season is my "pleasant" surprise. If I go into the season thinking 8-8 is a realistic expectation, which it isn't, this team will sorely disappoint me "AGAIN".
And furthermore some of you cocksuckers, not you D bone, who constantly drive up these unrealistic expectations every year are the same dumb mother fuckers who are usually grumbling about the coach's job by mid season. I can hear it clear is day already....cause I've heard for like 6 years running. You'll be just beside yourselves that this team isn't contending for the AFC North crown. Just besides yourselves...I mean all this talent you could be coaching them up at least to the AFC championship right?
FFS stop this. If we go 0-16 but I see some of these kids making plays than i'll be happy...we're building something then.
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There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.
i'd rather drive my expectations so low that a 4-5 win season is my "pleasant" surprise. If I go into the season thinking 8-8 is a realistic expectation, which it isn't, this team will sorely disappoint me "AGAIN".
And furthermore some of you cocksuckers, not you D bone, who constantly drive up these unrealistic expectations every year are the same dumb mother fuckers who are usually grumbling about the coach's job by mid season. I can hear it clear is day already....cause I've heard for like 6 years running. You'll be just beside yourselves that this team isn't contending for the AFC North crown. Just besides yourselves...I mean all this talent you could be coaching them up at least to the AFC championship right?
FFS stop this. If we go 0-16 but I see some of these kids making plays than i'll be happy...we're building something then.
i'd rather drive my expectations so low that a 4-5 win season is my "pleasant" surprise. If I go into the season thinking 8-8 is a realistic expectation, which it isn't, this team will sorely disappoint me "AGAIN".
And furthermore some of you cocksuckers, not you D Bone, who constantly drive up these unrealistic expectations every year are the same dumb mother fuckers who are usually grumbling about the coach's job by mid season. I can hear it clear is day already....cause I've heard for like 6 years running. You'll be just beside yourselves that this team isn't contending for the AFC North crown. Just besides yourselves...I mean all this talent you could be coaching them up at least to the AFC championship right?
FFS stop this. If we go 0-16 but I see some of these kids making plays than i'll be happy...we're building something then.
I hear ya. I think that the turn over in the 53, combined with Hue and his guys, will produce a lot of competitiveness and it will be easily seen each week. I sort of expect the majority of games to be winnable (up a few or down by 8 or less) late/middle into the 3rd qtr, and then we'll see what happens....... At least the opponents will know we're there.
I just think Hue will have a better offensive scheme than what we've suffered through the last few years, and the defense will play better simply with the removal of O'Neil. Add that to the influx of youth, and players that have a chip on their shoulder, and I expect to see decent football that only gets better as the season goes, instead of crumbling like Ghoolie's plaque infested arteries.
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i'd rather drive my expectations so low that a 4-5 win season is my "pleasant" surprise. If I go into the season thinking 8-8 is a realistic expectation, which it isn't, this team will sorely disappoint me "AGAIN".
And furthermore some of you cocksuckers, not you D Bone, who constantly drive up these unrealistic expectations every year are the same dumb mother fuckers who are usually grumbling about the coach's job by mid season. I can hear it clear is day already....cause I've heard for like 6 years running. You'll be just beside yourselves that this team isn't contending for the AFC North crown. Just besides yourselves...I mean all this talent you could be coaching them up at least to the AFC championship right?
FFS stop this. If we go 0-16 but I see some of these kids making plays than i'll be happy...we're building something then.
I hear ya. I think that the turn over in the 53, combined with Hue and his guys, will produce a lot of competitiveness and it will be easily seen each week. I sort of expect the majority of games to be winnable (up a few or down by 8 or less) late/middle into the 3rd qtr, and then we'll see what happens....... At least the opponents will know we're there.
I just think Hue will have a better offensive scheme than what we've suffered through the last few years, and the defense will play better simply with the removal of O'Neil. Add that to the influx of youth, and players that have a chip on their shoulder, and I expect to see decent football that only gets better as the season goes, instead of crumbling like Ghoolie's plaque infested arteries.
I hear ya. I think that the turn over in the 53, combined with Hue and his guys, will produce a lot of competitiveness and it will be easily seen each week. I sort of expect the majority of games to be winnable (up a few or down by 8 or less) late/middle into the 3rd qtr, and then we'll see what happens....... At least the opponents will know we're there.
I just think Hue will have a better offensive scheme than what we've suffered through the last few years, and the defense will play better simply with the removal of O'Neil. Add that to the influx of youth, and players that have a chip on their shoulder, and I expect to see decent football that only gets better as the season goes, instead of crumbling like Ghoolie's plaque infested arteries.
despite what looks like an "okay" draft to Me.. I still see this team finishing between 0-16 to 2-14.. Gotta crawl before you can walk.
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