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  • I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

  • Just waiting to see a little light at the end of this dark tunnel, And I think I see a sliver!

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    THEN

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    No. There are going to be blowouts. Lots of them. Doesn't matter.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    No. There are going to be blowouts. Lots of them. Doesn't matter.

    @wargograw said:

    No. There are going to be blowouts. Lots of them. Doesn't matter.

    I agree, I've prepared myself for that because hey, it's our 100th coach in 17 years. I am not going to delude myself into some unrealistic expectations and then scream for the coach's head when the team doesn't meet them.

    I can already see the sputtering mid season rage coming from some people. I'm trying to head that off at the pass now

  • See I've figgered out this Browns stuff......expect an 0-16 season and anything over that is gravy

  • Well that kind of contradicts your earlier post, but ok.

  • I expect us to win each and every game. To be competitive and aggressive. To chase victory until the whistle blows. 16-0 is what I'm expecting. If we go 0-16(though I don't see that), so what, there is always next year. But until we're mathematically eliminated from the Playoffs, we're going to make it there and when we do, look out! Because we're hungry and have been called to greatness.

  • Before the draft, I was thinking this looked like a 2 or 3 win team. After the draft though, it wouldn't be overly surprising for me to see them at five or six wins.

    The big thing (much more improtant than record) is that we see direction and progress. That's what I'm looking forward to the most.

  • Well that kind of contradicts your earlier post, but ok.

    @wargograw said:

    Well that kind of contradicts your earlier post, but ok.

    How?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    You're about the most stupid mother fucker in this entire forum.

  • I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Yea, I guess this is where I am too, that may be why I'm a little more optimistic that most/some. Teams going from shitty to at least competitive in only 1 off season seems like the new norm now, and if we can keep RG3 healthy all year, which would mean he plays all year, then we should be scoring points and that alone gives us a decent shot on any Sunday.

  • Before the draft, I was thinking this looked like a 2 or 3 win team. After the draft though, it wouldn't be overly surprising for me to see them at five or six wins.

    The big thing (much more improtant than record) is that we see direction and progress. That's what I'm looking forward to the most.

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Before the draft, I was thinking this looked like a 2 or 3 win team. After the draft though, it wouldn't be overly surprising for me to see them at five or six wins.

    .

    Ok let's just address the defensive side of the ball. Do the additions of ogbah, nassib and wright give you some notion that we'll be stopping the run better this coming year? If so how?

    The only guy I can see having some effect is scoob if he gets on the field a lot toward the end of the season. But our edge play is going to be almost exactly the same. We have not added anyone in the draft that was a reknowned run stopper on the edge. And frankly without that, the inside run d suffers so scoob wouldn't matter.

    The only potential immediate bright spot on the lb'ing Corp is orchard. Please let's not expect scoob to come out and blow us all away. Kids got as much work as anybody ahead of him

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    You're about the most stupid mother fucker in this entire forum.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You're about the most stupid mother fucker in this entire forum.

    No I actually know what I'm talking about go drink your ensure.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    You're about the most stupid mother fucker in this entire forum.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You're about the most stupid mother fucker in this entire forum.

    And ur still a clueless know nothing cunt. Just want to be sure we're clear on that

  • @wargograw said:

    Well that kind of contradicts your earlier post, but ok.

    How?

    @clevfan4life said:

    How?

    You said:

    "If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had."

    I said there will be blowouts.

    Then you said you agree.

  • No, am saying there's more hope in Sashi & Hue than Farmer & Pettine, but Haslem still owns a live trigger. And Oh Yea a QB that can't hang in the pocket but who has & survived in Cleveland. But this one not a drunk, just got 2 glass knees. God save Cleveland & Hail the Queen!! Were DOOMED for now.. But the sky is not falling, GO CAVS!!

  • @clevfan4life said:

    How?

    You said:

    "If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had."

    I said there will be blowouts.

    Then you said you agree.

    @wargograw said:

    You said:

    "If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had."

    I said there will be blowouts.

    Then you said you agree.

    no down the line in years 2 and 3, if the games aren't close and we're still only winning a couple against the worst teams in the NFL..than you hit the redo switch again with the players, not the coaches. Yes next year there's gonna be some bad like dungeon power gay shit happening down at First energy and it's not gonna be the Browns catching. Just the way it's gonna have to be for a year or two.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I doubt most fans agree that being 0-16 to 2-14 is seeing a foundation of something, other than shit.

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    First you have to learn to win on the road along with winning the close games.
  • @clevfan4life said:

    Because most fans are dumb like you. If that 2-14 season was contested, than it's building. If they were blowouts...than it might be time to look at another redo cause you may not have the pieces you thought you had.

    First you have to learn to win on the road along with winning the close games.

    VesnaKociper said:

    2 - 14 is possible IF RG3 gets fucked up early on.

    Also possible if he does not...

    One Post From the Truth said:

    First you have to learn to win on the road along with winning the close games.

    And at home...

    New systems on both sides of the ball... significant turnover of players... new personnel selecting players in a new way that even they are not sure of.

    The key for 2016 is signs of improvement... in the culture... in the play... not in the W/L. There will be moral victories.

    Until the feedback loop that the coming season will be is established, then the model is incomplete.