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I have driven the road up Mt. Whitney as far as it would take me, but it does not go all the way to the top. I did not climb the rest of the way there.
I have driven the road up Mt. Whitney as far as it would take me, but it does not go all the way to the top. I did not climb the rest of the way there.
Didn't realize there's a road going most of the way up. I have this debate if you drive to the top, you really haven't "climbed" it, like Pike's Peak.
Regarding Whitney- you're not taking a car up the West side. Rock jock territory.
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I have been at that point in Ohio you have a picture of. I mean, there is a house and some kind of a tank. It doesn't look like you can actually get to the apex there.
LOL Gip- you're right. You'd have to have them let you climb the ladder to the top of the water tower to be at the "true" highpoint- but in this case, I don't think man made structures count. There's a career center there- as well as the remnants of a WW II radar station.
From the top- it really doesn't look like you're that high up- until you get on your bike, and motor down Ohio 540 into Bellefontaine at 30 mph.
LOL Gip- you're right. You'd have to have them let you climb the ladder to the top of the water tower to be at the "true" highpoint- but in this case, I don't think man made structures count. There's a career center there- as well as the remnants of a WW II radar station.
From the top- it really doesn't look like you're that high up- until you get on your bike, and motor down Ohio 540 into Bellefontaine at 30 mph.
I went to the top of the south rim of the Grand Canyon this summer. Had to be at least 200 ft. over from the parking lot.
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The Portal road to Mt. Whitney only goes about halfway up. According to this map it stops at the 8340 foot mark....and Whitney is 14495. So there is still a long way to walk up. Over a mile straight.
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The Portal road to Mt. Whitney only goes about halfway up. According to this map it stops at the 8340 foot mark....and Whitney is 14495. So there is still a long way to walk up. Over a mile straight.
The Portal road to Mt. Whitney only goes about halfway up. According to this map it stops at the 8340 foot mark....and Whitney is 14495. So there is still a long way to walk up. Over a mile straight.
Thanks for the map Gip. I looked it up, and from the end of the road, if you're doing it in one day, it's a round trip of 22 miles, with 6,000' of elevation gain- a lot of it at over 10,000' elevation. By my standards- that's an ass-kicking hike. (The equivalent for us flat landers, @ 14,000' walking up two flights of stairs, and you'd have to rest for a few seconds.) I've only done more than 20 miles in a day once, way back in the 70s when I took a wrong trail junction in the Bridger Wilderness and had to backtrack. I was so beat- I just tossed my sleeping bag next to the car and crashed out.
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The Portal road to Mt. Whitney only goes about halfway up. According to this map it stops at the 8340 foot mark....and Whitney is 14495. So there is still a long way to walk up. Over a mile straight.
Thanks for the map Gip. I looked it up, and from the end of the road, if you're doing it in one day, it's a round trip of 22 miles, with 6,000' of elevation gain- a lot of it at over 10,000' elevation. By my standards- that's an ass-kicking hike. (The equivalent for us flat landers, @ 14,000' walking up two flights of stairs, and you'd have to rest for a few seconds.) I've only done more than 20 miles in a day once, way back in the 70s when I took a wrong trail junction in the Bridger Wilderness and had to backtrack. I was so beat- I just tossed my sleeping bag next to the car and crashed out.
Thanks for the map Gip. I looked it up, and from the end of the road, if you're doing it in one day, it's a round trip of 22 miles, with 6,000' of elevation gain- a lot of it at over 10,000' elevation. By my standards- that's an ass-kicking hike. (The equivalent for us flat landers, @ 14,000' walking up two flights of stairs, and you'd have to rest for a few seconds.) I've only done more than 20 miles in a day once, way back in the 70s when I took a wrong trail junction in the Bridger Wilderness and had to backtrack. I was so beat- I just tossed my sleeping bag next to the car and crashed out.
Now that you are in your 60s would you want to tackle it? Not I.
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Oh you two get your old asses up that there hill.
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Thanks for the map Gip. I looked it up, and from the end of the road, if you're doing it in one day, it's a round trip of 22 miles, with 6,000' of elevation gain- a lot of it at over 10,000' elevation. By my standards- that's an ass-kicking hike. (The equivalent for us flat landers, @ 14,000' walking up two flights of stairs, and you'd have to rest for a few seconds.) I've only done more than 20 miles in a day once, way back in the 70s when I took a wrong trail junction in the Bridger Wilderness and had to backtrack. I was so beat- I just tossed my sleeping bag next to the car and crashed out.
Now that you are in your 60s would you want to tackle it? Not I.
Now that you are in your 60s would you want to tackle it? Not I.
Um- probably not, unless I lost a lot of weight. Climbing Middle Teton with my nephew (Sherpa Joe) four years ago might well have been my last hurrah. 12,000' @ 60 feels like 14,000' @ 28. As you might have read, I did climb Mount Elbert back in 1978. (Whitney is only 62' higher) The difference being- you can drive up almost to the base of the mountain, and it's only 7 miles and change round trip with 4,000' of elevation gain. Even at that altitude, your mind starts playing tricks on you. Thought I ran out of film, so I dumped the contents of my daypack on the ground, looking for the spare roll of film I knew I had packed. Couldn't find it. When I got back to the car, sure enough, it was there- I was staring right at it, and didn't see it.
LOL, a world traveler friend of mine- who's in his 70s recently asked my opinion if I wanted to go take on Kilimanjaro with him. (He has almost no climbing experience.) Told him- you had better try a Colorado 14er on for size, before you take on that Mother. The thought did occur to me standing on top of Elbert- Kilimanjaro or Denali are "only" around another mile of thinner air higher up. Even at Elbert's level- you can clearly see there's a lot of atmosphere beneath you. Since you're a trivia buff Gip- didya know standing @ 18,500' half the earth's air is underneath your feet?
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One Post From the Truth said:
Oh you two get your old asses up that there hill.
LOL, in my 50s I had delusions of grandeur. Pico de Orizaba in sunny Mexico 18,500'. Or Aconcagua, 22,000' (highest point in the Western Hemisphere) just outside of Santiago, Chile. Probably not now though.
Here's the current age record for Everest: Yuichiro Miura (Japan) reached the summit on 23 May 2013 at the age of 80 years 223 days. (That old fart is in incredible shape)
But researching- for me to have a legit shot at the world's highpoint, based on my climbing Middle Teton, I would have had to make that trip in 1\2 the time carrying a 60 pound pack. Not happening. Not only that- it takes a pile of loot, probably at least $50,000 on a budget tour- to take a trip up the Yellow Brick Road. Last time I looked, the Nepalese government was charging $10k + for the opportunity to get yourself killed.
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One Post From the Truth said:
Oh you two get your old asses up that there hill.
LOL, in my 50s I had delusions of grandeur. Pico de Orizaba in sunny Mexico 18,500'. Or Aconcagua, 22,000' (highest point in the Western Hemisphere) just outside of Santiago, Chile. Probably not now though.
Here's the current age record for Everest: Yuichiro Miura (Japan) reached the summit on 23 May 2013 at the age of 80 years 223 days. (That old fart is in incredible shape)
But researching- for me to have a legit shot at the world's highpoint, based on my climbing Middle Teton, I would have had to make that trip in 1\2 the time carrying a 60 pound pack. Not happening. Not only that- it takes a pile of loot, probably at least $50,000 on a budget tour- to take a trip up the Yellow Brick Road. Last time I looked, the Nepalese government was charging $10k + for the opportunity to get yourself killed.
I'm sure if you had to it would be a different outlook. I'm chickenshit of bears.LOL, in my 50s I had delusions of grandeur. Pico de Orizaba in sunny Mexico 18,500'. Or Aconcagua, 22,000' (highest point in the Western Hemisphere) just outside of Santiago, Chile. Probably not now though.
Here's the current age record for Everest: Yuichiro Miura (Japan) reached the summit on 23 May 2013 at the age of 80 years 223 days. (That old fart is in incredible shape)
But researching- for me to have a legit shot at the world's highpoint, based on my climbing Middle Teton, I would have had to make that trip in 1\2 the time carrying a 60 pound pack. Not happening.
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Glad OKC took care of Mexico's team. Now go Cavs.
Still pissed the Stars didn't even show up in game 7 last night.
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One Post From the Truth said:
Oh you two get your old asses up that there hill.
Carry me brother
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Your weekly survey is back. Here are some questions. Give your opinions:
1. Two part: Which of the recent Browns draftees do you think will have the best career ultimately
....and which one will win the Vince Mayle award by not making it through training camp before getting cut?
2. Are you in favor of the now Oakland Raiders moving to Las Vegas?
3. Of the current active teams in the NBA playoffs, who do you WANT to ultimately win it all?
....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Cleveland/Atlanta/Toronto/Miami/Golden State/San Antonio/OKC/Portland
4. Of the current active team in the NHL playoffs who do you WANT to win it all?
.....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Tampa Bay/New York Islanders/Pittsburgh/Washington/San Jose/St. Louis/Dallas/Nashville
5. I don't want this to get political....just give the names: Who do you think Hillary should choose as her VP Candidate. Who do you think Trump should pick as his running mate?
6. This extra question comes from a travel board I patronize:
A. What do you think is the most beautiful college campus you have been to? (feel free to give several)
B. What famous tall towers or buildings have you been to the top of?
VesnaKociper said:
Your weekly survey is back. Here are some questions. Give your opinions:
1. Two part: Which of the recent Browns draftees do you think will have the best career ultimately
....and which one will win the Vince Mayle award by not making it through training camp before getting cut?
None will have a career that will be comparable to anything. Every player taken is low impact, low talent.
Is that your belief....or your hope?
2. Are you in favor of the now Oakland Raiders moving to Las Vegas?
I am moving to Vegas. If the Raiders move, I am done with this shit franchise. New lease on life for me.
So? You are a FRAK?
(and what happens if you move to Vegas, but the Raiders don't? Its not a done deal)
3. Of the current active teams in the NBA playoffs, who do you WANT to ultimately win it all?
....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Cleveland/Atlanta/Toronto/Miami/Golden State/San Antonio/OKC/Portland
Thug sport. Boring as Fuck to me. I hope they all break their fucking knees. I would rather watch Herman Munster. Seriously, I could give a flying fuck about the NBA. If Kobe Bryant brough wings to my house, I woudl tell him to get the fuck out and shove the wings up his stupid ass. Ok, so I would say, your stupid black ass. But that's just me.
What sports do you like....besides football? Baseball?
4. Of the current active team in the NHL playoffs who do you WANT to win it all?
.....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Tampa Bay/New York Islanders/Pittsburgh/Washington/San Jose/St. Louis/Dallas/Nashville
Dumb Sport. Boring. I hope they all break their fucking legs and I get to see lesbian movies instead. Seriously, If I was given frint row seats to a Stanley Cup game, I would throw the fucking things in the trash and not even waste the time to see if some asshole wanted them. Hockey doesn't suck as much as the NBA, because at least some hockey players can fight. Basketball players are all pole smoker, transgender, aids ass fucking homos.
You know that from personal experience?
5. I don't want this to get political....just give the names: Who do you think Hillary should choose as her VP Candidate. Who do you think Trump should pick as his running mate?
Hillary is a cunt. She should put a gun to her fucking head and do us all a favor. I guarantee you Bill would cheer her on. Trump should pick Kasich. The head-to-head with Hillary is already surging for Trump and up in Ohio over the cunt. Hillary will not be President. Her own party fucked her in 2008 and you can already see the media turning on her. It doesn't matter who she picks, she loses.
She will be your next POTUS.
Trump is a live version of Putney Swope. He never really thought or intended to win....and he is completely incapable of actually doing the job.
6. This extra question comes from a travel board I patronize:
A. What do you think is the most beautiful college campus you have been to? (feel free to give several)
The University of suck my Ukrainian Cock. Youngstown State University was home to me for 4 years plus a couple quarters. It looked great while I was fucking off all the time, and it looked good when I graduated and got the fuck out. Seriously, how can a university be beautiful? Other than the young pussy, what is to fall in love with? "Oooooh, look at that fucking architecture, it reminds me of Benito Mussolini when he got hung upside down dead in Italy"
Fucking college is filled with scum bag liberal asshole professors and pussy assed liberal students who want their asses kissed. I paid for my education by playing in bands, teaching music and painting with my uncle. Colleges aren't beautiful. You see all thos buildings and landscaping? yeah, that's right, my mother fucking tax dollars paid for all that shit. Fuck em all.
FYI....most of the ones that I mention are ALL private.....not a single penny of tax dollars went into paying for any of these buildings.
B. What famous tall towers or buildings have you been to the top of?
Original WTC, CNN tower, Burj Khalifa, CTF FInance Center, Zifeng Tower, Eiffel (Paris and Vegas) Sears Tower
I'm gonna call Bulshit on you going up the Burj.
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1. Two part: Which of the recent Browns draftees do you think will have the best career ultimately
....and which one will win the Vince Mayle award by not making it through training camp before getting cut?Just a feeling that Nassib breaks out...
Drango... PS is his upside.
2. Are you in favor of the now Oakland Raiders moving to Las Vegas?While I empathize with OAK fans, I really don't care.
3. Of the current active teams in the NBA playoffs, who do you WANT to ultimately win it all?
....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Cleveland/Atlanta/Toronto/Miami/Golden State/San Antonio/OKC/PortlandHope? Duh...
Think? GS...
4. Of the current active team in the NHL playoffs who do you WANT to win it all?
.....and who do you think WILL win it all?
Teams: Tampa Bay/New York Islanders/Pittsburgh/Washington/San Jose/St. Louis/Dallas/NashvilleStL... used to love watching the Plager Brothers play. All were masters of the Hip-check... but Barclay was King.
6. This extra question comes from a travel board I patronize:
A. What do you think is the most beautiful college campus you have been to? (feel free to give several)St. Andrews... nice golf course, too.
Stateside... Miami of Ohio... helped a HS friend move there his freshman year.
B. What famous tall towers or buildings have you been to the top of?Terminal... I was a locked door away from accessing the flag pole.
Empire State... back when it was the tallest.
Would have added Sears Tower, but 911...
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Well, you nailed the political analysis at least.
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Your weekly survey is back. Here are some questions. Give your opinions:
1. Two part: Which of the recent Browns draftees do you think will have the best career ultimately
....and which one will win the Vince Mayle award by not making it through training camp before getting cut?
I think that Coleman, Ogbah and Schobert will come out on top of the pack in this draft. I fear that Nassib and Ricardo Louis will not live up to expectations. Just wild guesses obviously. Biggest wild card is Kessler. A QB always is.
2. Are you in favor of the now Oakland Raiders moving to Las Vegas?
No, not really. For a couple of reasons: A. Primarily, the loyal supporters of this team from the East Bay should not be fucked again by losing their team...though, maybe they will all still remain fans and just take junkets to Vegas to see their favorite team.
B. There are other equally deserving....or more deserving cities that should be considered for a team: ALL of the following are larger markets than LV that don't have a team: Portland/St. Louis/Sacramento/Salt Lake City/Columbus/San Antonio. If you combine San Antonio and Austin, that market is by far the largest to not have NFL football. That area would be the 14th largest market in the NFL, just ahead of the Twin Cities and Cleveland.
On the other hand, I am not all that hot on the Bay area having two teams there. I am sure with a decent stadium it could support both....but the Bay area is only about the same size as Boston, Philly and Dallas......and they don't have two teams.
3. Of the current active teams in the NBA playoffs, who do you WANT to ultimately win it all? Obviously the Cleveland Cavaliers.
....and who do you think WILL win it all? But...this is Cleveland and we will probably get fucked again. Golden State will likely repeat.
I know...pessimistic. That attitude is 52 years in the making.
Teams: Cleveland/Atlanta/Toronto/Miami/Golden State/San Antonio/OKC/Portland
4. Of the current active team in the NHL playoffs who do you WANT to win it all?
In order of preference: Washington, Nashville, St. Louis, San Jose.
.....and who do you think WILL win it all? Stupid fucking Pittsburgh will probably win it.
That would be just the shit of things.....Cavs make the NBA finals and lose, Pisstown wins another tile.
To paraphrase Dean Martin: How lucky can one town get?
Teams: Tampa Bay/New York Islanders/Pittsburgh/Washington/San Jose/St. Louis/Dallas/Nashville
5. I don't want this to get political....just give the names: Who do you think Hillary should choose as her VP Candidate. Who do you think Trump should pick as his running mate?
Trump should pick Kasich to give him a chance to take the pivotal state Ohio.
Hillary could try to do the same and choose Sherrod Brown. Or maybe Mark Warner of Va. Should may want to get someone from the South.
6. This extra question comes from a travel board I patronize:
A. What do you think is the most beautiful college campus you have been to? (feel free to give several)
Like Top 5: Kenyon, Notre Dame, Duke, Middlebury, Auburn is very nice. Air Force Academy. A lot of nice ones.
B. What famous tall towers or buildings have you been to the top of?
Eiffel Tower, Paris
CN Tower, Toronto
Space Needle, Seattle
The Arch, St. Louis
Washington Monument.
Tower of America, San Antonio
Coit Tower, San Francisco
Sears Tower, Chicago
The Terminal Tower, Cleveland
Perry's Victory Monument, Put-in-Bay
The World Trade Center....the original that was struck down on 9/11
I was scheduled to go the NYC for a trip and had bought tickets to go up the Empire State Building. That trip was scheduled for September 18, 2001. I still went to NYC, but the Empire State Building was closed as was the Statue of Liberty, and other places in New York. I have not yet had a chance to get back for that experience.
4. Of the current active team in the NHL playoffs who do you WANT to win it all?
In order of preference: Washington, Nashville, St. Louis, San Jose.
.....and who do you think WILL win it all? Stupid fucking Pittsburgh will probably win it.
That would be just the shit of things.....Cavs make the NBA finals and lose, Pisstown wins another tile.
To paraphrase Dean Martin: How lucky can one town get?
Teams: Tampa Bay/New York Islanders/Pittsburgh/Washington/San Jose/St. Louis/Dallas/Nashville
Uh-oh...Pens up 2-0!
How cool would that be if both Cleve and Pit had back to back downtown parades!
I don't think two cities this geographically close to each other ever had back to back champions.
Don't think the Cavs cant' win this. Do two things...protect the damn ball, and continue to dominate the boards.
The Cavs are the top rebounding team in the NBA.
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Who cares about the Penguins. Cleveland may in fact have both a basketball and a hockey championship:
2016 Calder Cup Finals – Series “O” (best-of-7)
A1-Hershey Bears vs. C2-Lake Erie Monsters
Game 1 – Wed., June 1 – Lake Erie 4, HERSHEY 1
Game 2 – Fri., June 3 – Lake Erie at Hershey, 7:00
Game 3 – Mon., June 6 – Hershey at Lake Erie, 7:00
Game 4 – Sat., June 11 – Hershey at Lake Erie, 7:00
*Game 5 – Sun., June 12 – Hershey at Lake Erie, 6:00
*Game 6 – Tue., June 14 – Lake Erie at Hershey, 7:00
*Game 7 – Fri., June 17 – Lake Erie at Hershey, 7:00Lake Erie Monsters play at the Q.
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