Veteran, OTA's & Rookie Camp Notes
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C. Coleman signs 4 year deal pending number 11.65M. or close. WR's Payton, Wiggins, DB Caldwell, OL Drango & Scooby Wright Have all signed Contracts. All from BR & Quotes from Hue... Shon Coleman- MCL- Did not participate.Taking it slow, but he's ready. Kessler had a good Day 1. First thing Hue noticed was a bunch of Rookie's out of Shape & Went right after the First Round Pick Cory Coleman as a example. Hue is pushing it on Al Saunder to whip these kids into shape. Mike Matthews- Hue not concerned about size, he can play but will need to earn his way. Danny Shelton down 15 pounds..
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C. Coleman signs 4 year deal pending number 11.65M. or close. WR's Payton, Wiggins, DB Caldwell, OL Drango & Scooby Wright Have all signed Contracts. All from BR & Quotes from Hue... Shon Coleman- MCL- Did not participate.Taking it slow, but he's ready. Kessler had a good Day 1. First thing Hue noticed was a bunch of Rookie's out of Shape & Went right after the First Round Pick Cory Coleman as a example. Hue is pushing it on Al Saunder to whip these kids into shape. Mike Matthews- Hue not concerned about size, he can play but will need to earn his way. Danny Shelton down 15 pounds..
First thing Hue noticed was a much of Rookie's out of Shape & Went right after the First Round Pick Cory Coleman.
first thing i noticed was how confusing this ^^ sentence is
i do appreciate the tidbits and anecdotes though, truly.
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Basicly he's saying that everyone besides Coleman is out of shape.first thing i noticed was how confusing this ^^ sentence is
i do appreciate the tidbits and anecdotes though, truly.
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What Hue did was challenge ALL the rookies to get into "NFL shape" so they can compete with the vets., then said they would get there.
Mike
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When Mike Sherman (card-carrying NFL man) was the head coach at A&M we were putting a bunch of guys in the league that had no business being drafted, which we obviously attributed to Sherman's reputation and recommendation. Could be a similar case with Kessler/Hue.
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first thing i noticed was how confusing this ^^ sentence is
i do appreciate the tidbits and anecdotes though, truly.
My bad. Was thinking "bunch" while spelling "much". Thanks & MKC am gladly not. It's finally good to read that a coach will truly speak out on what he see's. Who's names Hue throws out to media, may not matter & that's a good thing. Hue also is putting convenience on his coach's that what he see's in week 1 of Camp won't be happening by Week 3 of Camp. I'll take a good boot in the ass if it makes me better. Love the Talent not The Player, Interested to see how far this goes.. Hue seems to love everyone
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this is overblown. It isn't like a player has gained forty lbs of blubber ..come on.
these players have had 3 months or so to take a break from football,
they aren't going to be all in football shape the first day of training
camp in the NFL. A little winded all I can imagine ahtletes going into the NFL
have to get over.
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Hue explained a little more what he meant by "football shape" as not being able to play a full game. Most of the college players are just not ready to go a full game yet and need to be conditioned to do so. Hue was saying that most (but not all) of the players were not where he wants them to be and that they will get them into football shape by his definition.
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Day 2: Fan Fest.. Brisk, wet & windy..(just the way we like it) Kessler hit on a 50 yard TD pass to Higgins. Scooby picks off Kessler on a short route. TE Randall Telfer suffers leg injury diving on short pass. Came off with hammy wrapped. Telfer & Kessler played together Kessler's sophomore year.
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Hue explained a little more what he meant by "football shape" as not being able to play a full game. Most of the college players are just not ready to go a full game yet and need to be conditioned to do so. Hue was saying that most (but not all) of the players were not where he wants them to be and that they will get them into football shape by his definition.
Hue's got a lot of work ahead of him seeing as we haven't been in shape for the last 15 yearsHue explained a little more what he meant by "football shape" as not being able to play a full game. Most of the college players are just not ready to go a full game yet and need to be conditioned to do so. Hue was saying that most (but not all) of the players were not where he wants them to be and that they will get them into football shape by his definition.
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Basicly he's saying that everyone besides Coleman is out of shape.first thing i noticed was how confusing this ^^ sentence is
i do appreciate the tidbits and anecdotes though, truly.
One Post From the Truth said:
Basicly he's saying that everyone besides Coleman is out of shape.
You still remain one post from the truth lol.
Jackson singled out Coleman.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/hue-jackson-says-wr-corey-210400536.html
Even Steeler writers showing Hue Jackson some respect!
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Pick out your best rookie, talk about getting him into the shape he needs to be and viola, message sent to entire team (like Shelton for example) that no matter who you are, you'd better report in the best shape of your life or start packing.
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uggh. shades of the holmgren era.
man i hope you guys are right about HUE cuz i'm not smellin what this dude has been cooking at all.
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uggh. shades of the holmgren era.
man i hope you guys are right about HUE cuz i'm not smellin what this dude has been cooking at all.
man i hope you guys are right about HUE cuz i'm not smellin what this dude has been cooking at all.
mik, am telling you now. Something just feels right with RG3 & Hue. Decision making & getting the ball out of RG3's hands is what Hue cooking. For some damn reason, every network, every year thought we were getting better. This season they say we will be everybody bitch. Fine, absolutely perfect.. Go Browns!!
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Mik you need to get over your buddy Pettine getting fired. I hate when regime changes divide the fanbase.
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Mik you need to get over your buddy Pettine getting fired. I hate when regime changes divide the fanbase.
Mik you need to get over your buddy Pettine getting fired. I hate when regime changes divide the fanbase.
it's not that. really. it's the fact that everyone is proclaiming hue to be some god, when he really has done nothing.
yeah i liked pettine cuz i like defensive guys. he also was a nobody basically working his way up.
now jackson is some offensive genius (flip, shurmer, palmer etc. etc.) who has already been a head coach and did shit. his claim to fame is andy dalton. ANDY DALTON! brandon weeden's cousin.
i hope for the best, but just like the fans in 'believeland' i've seen it too many times.
i can tell the difference between a pile of shit and a pile of crap from a mile away.
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NFL Network is interviewing 3 rookies this a.m. (they repeat it every hour), Coleman, Henry and Joey Bosa.
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Mik you need to get over your buddy Pettine getting fired. I hate when regime changes divide the fanbase.
it's not that. really. it's the fact that everyone is proclaiming hue to be some god, when he really has done nothing.
yeah i liked pettine cuz i like defensive guys. he also was a nobody basically working his way up.
now jackson is some offensive genius (flip, shurmer, palmer etc. etc.) who has already been a head coach and did shit. his claim to fame is andy dalton. ANDY DALTON! brandon weeden's cousin.
i hope for the best, but just like the fans in 'believeland' i've seen it too many times.
i can tell the difference between a pile of shit and a pile of crap from a mile away.
it's not that. really. it's the fact that everyone is proclaiming hue to be some god, when he really has done nothing.
yeah i liked pettine cuz i like defensive guys. he also was a nobody basically working his way up.
now jackson is some offensive genius (flip, shurmer, palmer etc. etc.) who has already been a head coach and did shit. his claim to fame is andy dalton. ANDY DALTON! brandon weeden's cousin.
i hope for the best, but just like the fans in 'believeland' i've seen it too many times.
i can tell the difference between a pile of shit and a pile of crap from a mile away.
Just so I got this straight, you like Pettine because he had accomplished nothing, but dislike Jackson because he got 'brandon weedon's cousin' playing by far the best football of his career; had one year as a head coach where he got Jason Campbell (!) and the raiders (!) in to playoff contention before injuries and the death of Al Davis derailed the season. Seems legit.
But trust me, I get it - Mike Holmgren was supposed to be the guy, the all knowing oracle of QB play, and he drafted us Colt McCoy, and generally did shit. Pat Shurmer was supposed to be an offensive mastermind who could do everything, but ultimately the step up to HC was too big for him. Now you've got another guy who's supposed to be the guy and people are asking you to buy in to another regime? Man, you're tired of this shit. Can't we just win already?
Who knows if Hue is the guy. But Pettine wasn't the guy, and we have to go with the guy who we think is most likely to be the guy. Jackson has a track record of getting a lot out of his players, as a position coach (having coached Chad Johnson and TJ Houshamansdhsahashdsazeh to well over 4000 yards in two years; converting Joe Flacco from a small school prospect to franchise QB, for example), OC (see the bengals last two years; remember Darren McFadden going for 1k+ yards? That was under Hue as OC/HC) and HC (see the raiders). That's not to mention his direct experience of our division and making the reigning champions much weaker.
Is he perfect? Probably not. Nobody is. We're probably not going to have a winning record this year, because these things take time. As to the guys we drafted, opinions are mixed - big fucking shock, it's a draft class, and we're less than a month removed from the first and last picks. Of course opinions will be mixed. It happens every year to every team. I've seen grades from A to D for the browns, and from A to D for the eagles, bengals, titans, and pretty much every other ball club in the league.
So let's just pick ourselves up after another year of finishing 4th in the division, dust ourselves down, and hope that this time, the guy we chose is the guy for real. He may very well be.
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Pick out your best rookie, talk about getting him into the shape he needs to be and viola, message sent to entire team (like Shelton for example) that no matter who you are, you'd better report in the best shape of your life or start packing.
Pick out your best rookie, talk about getting him into the shape he needs to be and viola, message sent to entire team (like Shelton for example) that no matter who you are, you'd better report in the best shape of your life or start packing.
Agree on intent of Coleman as the example, but not the consequences...
it's not that. really. it's the fact that everyone is proclaiming hue to be some god, when he really has done nothing.
Pretty much nails my take as well. Not seeing the basis for the QB whisperer proclamations.
Additionally I still have concerns over a HC focusing so much on one position with an entire team to build... even given the importance of the position drawing Hue's attention. That said... I like the energy Hue is bringing. It has the potential to compensate for his QB-centric focus in the short-term.
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