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giant raise of minimum wage fight already backfiring

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    $15.00 an hour for working in a burger joint is nuts. Fuck them slugs. Get an education or learn a trade.

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    $15.00 an hour for working in a burger joint is nuts. Fuck them slugs. Get an education or learn a trade.

    You start to see what the germans in the 40's were going on about. Like maybe herr sanchez wasnt so crazy afterall

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      If min. wage goes up to $15 an hr what about the people that are making $15 an hr now? Does everyone get a raise or just the ones who can't hold own a job?

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        If min. wage goes up to $15 an hr what about the people that are making $15 an hr now? Does everyone get a raise or just the ones who can't hold own a job?

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        "One said:

        If min. wage goes up to $15 an hr what about the people that are making $15 an hr now? Does everyone get a raise or just the ones who can't hold own a job?

        It wont pass nationwide.

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          If min. wage goes up to $15 an hr what about the people that are making $15 an hr now? Does everyone get a raise or just the ones who can't hold own a job?

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          "One said:

          If min. wage goes up to $15 an hr what about the people that are making $15 an hr now? Does everyone get a raise or just the ones who can't hold own a job?

          Ironically some union members are in favor of raising the minimum wage because some of the teamster contracts require that whatever they make must be x amount of dollars above the minimum wage. Or at least that was the case at one time.

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            @mld-woody said:

            We should raise the minimum wage.

            And this is just a consequence of innovation. We were working our way to increased automation regardless of the hourly wage

            Not entirely dissimilar to your idea of making it so expensive to use fossil fuels that people were forced to consider alternative energy.

            WSS

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            @westside-steve said:

            Not entirely dissimilar to your idea of making it so expensive to use fossil fuels that people were forced to consider alternative energy.

            WSS

            Not exactly what I was saying, but its closer than you usually get. I guess I should be happy with it.

            We're going to move on from fossil fuels eventually. Leaving it purely up to the free market could easily put us in a dangerous situation. I think increased regulation/taxes could drive the inevitable change to alternative energy more quickly, and before too much damage is done. That doesn't mean making gas $5 a gallon and making everyone get electric cars tomorrow.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              Actually, the free market would drive R&D in alternative fuel sources.

              Gov interference just makes a lot of money for liberal causes and...

              redistribution of wealth.

              Can't legislate innovation. A company that could invest and develop a new

              source of fuel...

              would make billions. You can't just invent something that hasn't been invented yet, and may

              never be possible. Conductive polymers came about without any big liberal gov high taxes and fines and fees.

              Innovation happens when it happens after it's proven to be possible.

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                Actually, the free market would drive R&D in alternative fuel sources.

                Gov interference just makes a lot of money for liberal causes and...

                redistribution of wealth.

                Can't legislate innovation. A company that could invest and develop a new

                source of fuel...

                would make billions. You can't just invent something that hasn't been invented yet, and may

                never be possible. Conductive polymers came about without any big liberal gov high taxes and fines and fees.

                Innovation happens when it happens after it's proven to be possible.

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                @calfoxwc said:

                Actually, the free market would drive R&D in alternative fuel sources.

                Gov interference just makes a lot of money for liberal causes and...

                redistribution of wealth.

                Can't legislate innovation. A company that could invest and develop a new

                source of fuel...

                would make billions. You can't just invent something that hasn't been invented yet, and may

                never be possible. Conductive polymers came about without any big liberal gov high taxes and fines and fees.

                Innovation happens when it happens after it's proven to be possible.

                Theres actually anacdotal evidence that some promising alt fuel ideas got squelched with hrlp from our govt and other govts abroad. A decentralized energy infrastructure is more dangerous to their control than even the decentralization of the food chain

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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  Actually, the free market would drive R&D in alternative fuel sources.

                  Gov interference just makes a lot of money for liberal causes and...

                  redistribution of wealth.

                  Can't legislate innovation. A company that could invest and develop a new

                  source of fuel...

                  would make billions. You can't just invent something that hasn't been invented yet, and may

                  never be possible. Conductive polymers came about without any big liberal gov high taxes and fines and fees.

                  Innovation happens when it happens after it's proven to be possible.

                  Theres actually anacdotal evidence that some promising alt fuel ideas got squelched with hrlp from our govt and other govts abroad. A decentralized energy infrastructure is more dangerous to their control than even the decentralization of the food chain

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Theres actually anacdotal evidence that some promising alt fuel ideas got squelched with hrlp from our govt and other govts abroad. A decentralized energy infrastructure is more dangerous to their control than even the decentralization of the food chain

                  I hear the guy that invented a 100 miles a gallon carburetor is locked in a dungeon underneath the Ford Motor Company.

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                    ah...don't get me going on the mass production of food again.....

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                      .....oh god here we go here

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