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  • Called it.

    Maybe we can get a draft pick by trading Hawkins and/or Gabriel and/or Moore... otherwise, they're all on the cut block

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • We drafted a million receivers so no surprise here.

  • I actually thought Hartline was the one guy that we'd keep. Possession receiver that can work hard and maybe show the young guys how to do it.

    I'm guessing Hawkins and Gabriel are getting nervous.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
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  • The things which comprise "Show The Young Guys How To Do It" ... can all be accomplished by Joe Thomas, Joe Haden, and Gary Barnidge.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • D BoneD D Bone

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/05/brian_hartline_released_by_cle.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Receiver Brian Hartline has been released by the Browns as their youth movement continues.
    Profootballtalk.com was the first to report the news.
    Hartline, who will be 30 in November, became expendable when the Browns drafted four receivers.
    His exit is also part of a youth movement on the part of the Browns, who released Donte Whitner last month and have parted ways with many of their 30-plus players.
    Hartline, the native of Canton, Ohio and former Buckeyes star, signed a two-year deal with the Browns last season worth $6 million.
    But he lasted only one season with his hometown team, playing in 12 games and starting four before being place on injured reserve with a broken collarbone that was surgically-repaired on Dec. 15. He caught 46 passes for 523 yards and two touchdowns.
    "Hartline is a pro,'' coach Hue Jackson said last week at Browns organized team activities. "He's been through it. He's had success. He knows how to play, and there's something to that.''
    But Jackson made no promises that Hartline was long for this team.
    "At the same time, he knows each and every day he's got to go out and compete because everybody's trying to win a spot,'' Jackson said. "To me, that's what it's truly all about. It's about competing and it's about earning a right to be a part of this football team."

    @d-bone said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/05/brian_hartline_released_by_cle.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Receiver Brian Hartline has been released by the Browns as their youth movement continues.
    Profootballtalk.com was the first to report the news.
    Hartline, who will be 30 in November, became expendable when the Browns drafted four receivers.
    His exit is also part of a youth movement on the part of the Browns, who released Donte Whitner last month and have parted ways with many of their 30-plus players.
    Hartline, the native of Canton, Ohio and former Buckeyes star, signed a two-year deal with the Browns last season worth $6 million.
    But he lasted only one season with his hometown team, playing in 12 games and starting four before being place on injured reserve with a broken collarbone that was surgically-repaired on Dec. 15. He caught 46 passes for 523 yards and two touchdowns.
    "Hartline is a pro,'' coach Hue Jackson said last week at Browns organized team activities. "He's been through it. He's had success. He knows how to play, and there's something to that.''
    But Jackson made no promises that Hartline was long for this team.
    "At the same time, he knows each and every day he's got to go out and compete because everybody's trying to win a spot,'' Jackson said. "To me, that's what it's truly all about. It's about competing and it's about earning a right to be a part of this football team."

    I don't see where he got any chance to "compete". What have they had, one practice? This sounds to me like it is just change for changes sake....not based on any actual competitive issue.

    If so, fine. But don't prevaricate and say it is about competition. "Its about earning a right to be part of this football team?" That's a lie..NONE of these rookies have earned the right to be on this team except for the fact that these guys picked them....and it remains to be seen if any of these kids are worth a cabbage fart. We know Hartline was worth that. He contributed.

    Hue may just not have wanted an older white guy on his WR corps.

    Yes, I said it.....race may have played a part.

    LogicIsForSquaresL 1 Reply
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Much bitching incoming about a guy who the team felt was expendable when the youngsters came in.

    No bitching here, if they think the young 'uns are the way to go. The Browns only have a cap hit of $750k (prorated bonus) to send him on his way.

    @hoorta said:

    No bitching here, if they think the young 'uns are the way to go. The Browns only have a cap hit of $750k (prorated bonus) to send him on his way.

    That would be fine...."the young ones are the way to go". If that is what he said. But his statement talked about earning a spot through competition. Clearly no one.....rookie or veteran alike has done that yet.

  • Well, analytics say white receivers blow soooo

  • W wargograw

    Well, analytics say white receivers blow soooo

    @wargograw said:

    Well, analytics say white receivers blow soooo

    So, maybe we should analytics in all walks of life? Analytics would say blacks are more likely to be...you name it:

    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

    Analytics at work? (FYI, I am a liberal)

    W 1 Reply

  • Not surprised. He was good but we did draft 4 receivers.

    GO BROWNS!!!

  • from his nfl draft profile

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/brian-hartline?id=81831

    "Negatives: Lacks the eye-popping athleticism to offer much upside. Doesn't have the straight-line speed to challenge over the top. Lacks burst out of his breaks. Generally reliable hands, but has some ugly drops when he's trying to make a move on the defender before securing the pass."

    The Browns want burst, speed, athleticism. I'm surprised, though, I figure the Browns cut him early so he can

    catch on with another team needing a possession receiver.

    Good luck to him.

  • Loved the signing but did not think it would last much longer after a broken collarbone at his position. The only race he has left is healing, aging & slowing speed. Good route runner & Hands should land him on a roster.. Good Luck Hart.. Go Bucks!!

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @d-bone said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/05/brian_hartline_released_by_cle.html

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Receiver Brian Hartline has been released by the Browns as their youth movement continues.
    Profootballtalk.com was the first to report the news.
    Hartline, who will be 30 in November, became expendable when the Browns drafted four receivers.
    His exit is also part of a youth movement on the part of the Browns, who released Donte Whitner last month and have parted ways with many of their 30-plus players.
    Hartline, the native of Canton, Ohio and former Buckeyes star, signed a two-year deal with the Browns last season worth $6 million.
    But he lasted only one season with his hometown team, playing in 12 games and starting four before being place on injured reserve with a broken collarbone that was surgically-repaired on Dec. 15. He caught 46 passes for 523 yards and two touchdowns.
    "Hartline is a pro,'' coach Hue Jackson said last week at Browns organized team activities. "He's been through it. He's had success. He knows how to play, and there's something to that.''
    But Jackson made no promises that Hartline was long for this team.
    "At the same time, he knows each and every day he's got to go out and compete because everybody's trying to win a spot,'' Jackson said. "To me, that's what it's truly all about. It's about competing and it's about earning a right to be a part of this football team."

    I don't see where he got any chance to "compete". What have they had, one practice? This sounds to me like it is just change for changes sake....not based on any actual competitive issue.

    If so, fine. But don't prevaricate and say it is about competition. "Its about earning a right to be part of this football team?" That's a lie..NONE of these rookies have earned the right to be on this team except for the fact that these guys picked them....and it remains to be seen if any of these kids are worth a cabbage fart. We know Hartline was worth that. He contributed.

    Hue may just not have wanted an older white guy on his WR corps.

    Yes, I said it.....race may have played a part.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't see where he got any chance to "compete". What have they had, one practice? This sounds to me like it is just change for changes sake....not based on any actual competitive issue.

    If so, fine. But don't prevaricate and say it is about competition. "Its about earning a right to be part of this football team?" That's a lie..NONE of these rookies have earned the right to be on this team except for the fact that these guys picked them....and it remains to be seen if any of these kids are worth a cabbage fart. We know Hartline was worth that. He contributed.

    Hue may just not have wanted an older white guy on his WR corps.

    Yes, I said it.....race may have played a part.

    So did Devalve get cut too?

    K 1 Reply
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    I actually thought Hartline was the one guy that we'd keep. Possession receiver that can work hard and maybe show the young guys how to do it.

    I'm guessing Hawkins and Gabriel are getting nervous.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I actually thought Hartline was the one guy that we'd keep. Possession receiver that can work hard and maybe show the young guys how to do it.

    I agree... thought Hart had a shot at being the vet presence in the WR room.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I actually thought Hartline was the one guy that we'd keep. Possession receiver that can work hard and maybe show the young guys how to do it.

    I agree... thought Hart had a shot at being the vet presence in the WR room.

    @tour2ma said:

    I agree... thought Hart had a shot at being the vet presence in the WR room.

    With this many "young'uns" coming to camp this summer, I thought Hart would be a good mentor.

    I figure he will be on another teams TC before long.

    I certainly hope they keep McCown around for the same reason.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • Hartline was cut because his niche as a possession receiver will be filled by Rashard Higgins and/or Jordan Payton. This was a no-brainer and has nothing to do with race.

    Jackson's first hire to the coaching staff was Al Saunders, a white receivers coach.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply

  • He stunk

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @wargograw said:

    Well, analytics say white receivers blow soooo

    So, maybe we should analytics in all walks of life? Analytics would say blacks are more likely to be...you name it:

    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

    Analytics at work? (FYI, I am a liberal)

    @the-gipper said:

    So, maybe we should analytics in all walks of life? Analytics would say blacks are more likely to be...you name it:

    http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/

    Analytics at work? (FYI, I am a liberal)

    Didn't open your link but yes, you should.

  • Mentors are overrated. You don't need a stinkin' mentor, especially one who knows you're taking his job. I never saw a sophomore on varsity get "mentored" by seniors. Taken under their wing and to parties, sure. Not mentored about football.

  • Analytics at work. He was cut because the $ was too high for the return. Younger rookies don't cost shit when taken in later rounds.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Analytics at work. He was cut because the $ was too high for the return. Younger rookies don't cost shit when taken in later rounds.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Younger rookies don't cost shit when taken in later rounds.

    In theory, yes.

    Provided said rookies can catch a football.

    We've seen many rookie WR's in the past several years that couldn't catch a cold.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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