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  • What are optimistic about so far?

    I am liking what i am hearing about the coaching and to see the draft picks play. Seems the staff likes what they see.

  • Being optimistic is fine; just don't make claims that are unproven either way until you have something to base it on.

  • Good question Mike. I'm optimistic because it's a new year and a new start. Not too much worse than a 3-13 record like last season should bring most around. It doesn't help with the Internet trolls coming in and bad mouthing the Browns.

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    @wargograw said:

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    Yup. I'm always optimistic, but also realistic too.

  • I like this year because it seems like a complete purge. Infused with young talent.

  • I like this year because it seems like a complete purge. Infused with young talent.

    @lbc-mike said:

    I like this year because it seems like a complete purge. Infused with young talent.

    Exactly. Some fans and most media are crying about the "talent" we lost (Mack, Schwartz, ect..), but for me that's part of my optimism. I've seen what the Browns look like with these "team leaders/stars" on the field, and it wasn't good. Now we get to watch some young guys sprinkled all over the field, and that alone excites me.

    Gonna be some pleasantly surprised Browns fans this year.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    I like this year because it seems like a complete purge. Infused with young talent.

    Exactly. Some fans and most media are crying about the "talent" we lost (Mack, Schwartz, ect..), but for me that's part of my optimism. I've seen what the Browns look like with these "team leaders/stars" on the field, and it wasn't good. Now we get to watch some young guys sprinkled all over the field, and that alone excites me.

    Gonna be some pleasantly surprised Browns fans this year.

    @d-bone said:

    Exactly. Some fans and most media are crying about the "talent" we lost (Mack, Schwartz, ect..), but for me that's part of my optimism. I've seen what the Browns look like with these "team leaders/stars" on the field, and it wasn't good. Now we get to watch some young guys sprinkled all over the field, and that alone excites me.

    Gonna be some pleasantly surprised Browns fans this year.

    Totally agree. ^^^
  • Optimism starts with "winning"

  • Probably next offseason

  • @lbc-mike said:

    I like this year because it seems like a complete purge. Infused with young talent.

    Exactly. Some fans and most media are crying about the "talent" we lost (Mack, Schwartz, ect..), but for me that's part of my optimism. I've seen what the Browns look like with these "team leaders/stars" on the field, and it wasn't good. Now we get to watch some young guys sprinkled all over the field, and that alone excites me.

    Gonna be some pleasantly surprised Browns fans this year.

    @d-bone said:

    Exactly. Some fans and most media are crying about the "talent" we lost (Mack, Schwartz, ect..), but for me that's part of my optimism. I've seen what the Browns look like with these "team leaders/stars" on the field, and it wasn't good. Now we get to watch some young guys sprinkled all over the field, and that alone excites me.

    Gonna be some pleasantly surprised Browns fans this year.

    One Post From the Truth said:

    Totally agree. ^^^

    Me three. In my case, the question is "When did optimism END?"...my answer...NEVER!

    Mike

  • as soon as the new coaching staff took over, and started talking like

    I, and others, have talked....

    that's when I knew it would finally be making sense.

    You want to build a winning TEAM... draft a bunch of kids who

    love the game, have a great work ethic, can freaking PLAY

    at their level - even if they are "off the radar"...

    and have the coaches in place who can teach them to be successful

    additions to your team.

    Enough with the lack of teaching from a coaching staff. Enough with

    drafting rated athletes with prima donna attitudes, pot smoking/etc red flags,

    plays who don't love the game, and couldn't care less if they are suspended

    out of it, as long as they make enough money for the rest of the year....

    The Browns have people in place now, who are doing what we have been wanting

    for years. No more "not playing a rookie, and the rookie goes elsewhere and becomes

    a starter" crap.

  • I will be optimistic when I hear a real commitment beyond 2 years from Jimmy H. So far I just hear the usual and patience is not his strong suit. Consistent turnarounds take 5 years or more with a lot of heartbreaks along the way. Can he and Browns fans tolerate that?

  • Optimism returned on the fire date of Ray Farmer. We'll win 3 games by accident plus whatever ones we win on purpose in 2016.

  • when does optimism start?

    Tomorrow...

  • I always try to be optimistic......it's simply a hope for the best possible outcome.....so, why not be optimistic, even if the projected outcome isnt always roses?

    While we wont be winning the Super Bowl, I still hope the Browns get better.....and hope for the best season possible, given what we have....

    Pessimists just bring me down.......

  • i'm optimistic about all the new WRs that were drafted, hopefully some of them can turn into offensive weapons to help the QB out.

  • i'm optimistic about all the new WRs that were drafted, hopefully some of them can turn into offensive weapons to help the QB out.

    @browns1216 said:

    i'm optimistic about all the new WRs that were drafted, hopefully some of them can turn into offensive weapons to help the QB out.

    We drafted four, plus the TE. If two of those can go on to have even 800 yard seasons for 10 years, pretty decent result.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    This is exactly the problem I have with Browns fans. Year after year, no matter who the fuck gets hired, the comments are the same...........

    • You can see a difference in the way this FO interacts
    • I like the hands-on approach from this coach
    • This is the best group of draft picks we have had in years
    • This FO really has a plan

    Look, dumb asses, this fucking team drafted perhaps the WORST of all 32 teams given the fact that we had the #2 overall pick, and wound up with a sack of shit we could have picked up as walk ons and rejects from the top teams come preseason.

    No reason to be optimistic. We have no QB and no play makers. How the fuck can you think this will be a good year?

    Idiots.

    You must be great fun at parties

  • VesnaKociper said:

    This is exactly the problem I have with Browns fans. Year after year, no matter who the fuck gets hired, the comments are the same...........

    • You can see a difference in the way this FO interacts
    • I like the hands-on approach from this coach
    • This is the best group of draft picks we have had in years
    • This FO really has a plan

    Look, dumb asses, this fucking team drafted perhaps the WORST of all 32 teams given the fact that we had the #2 overall pick, and wound up with a sack of shit we could have picked up as walk ons and rejects from the top teams come preseason.

    No reason to be optimistic. We have no QB and no play makers. How the fuck can you think this will be a good year?

    Idiots.

    You must be great fun at parties

    @londonbrown said:

    You must be great fun at parties