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  • @mld-woody said:

    That's the link I assumed you were looking at when you first posted (first thing I found while googling).

    Three notes:

    - It says "1/5 gay men have HIV and nearly half (44%) don't know". Your post implied 1/5 gay men had HIV and didnt know. Really it would be 1/10 have it and don't know

    - True, it is where this is at its worst. I wonder how it would change over the entire population (obviously it would go down some)

    - I wonder if this has improved at all since 2010

    You could also make the case to ban young blacks from donating blood

    Is this blood not tested though? I didn't realize they just take my word for it when I go to donate blood. I mean, how hard would it be to lie? I'd have to think there is some additional testing going on.

    That's what I meant, many don't even know.

    And they do test all donated blood, but more time and effort to double test false positives and take the time to receive donations from HIV positive people - I guess that's portion of it.

    In this case they need blood in a hurry, take it from the lowest risk people possible.

    @bbedward said:

    That's what I meant, many don't even know.

    And they do test all donated blood, but more time and effort to double test false positives and take the time to receive donations from HIV positive people - I guess that's portion of it.

    In this case they need blood in a hurry, take it from the lowest risk people possible.

    So if I'm considered low risk, they don't test it at all? That seems pretty sketchy. I just don't see the point in banning gays from donating. That means they don't test the blood at all, which is an awful idea. If someone wants to donate blood and help out, why turn them away if the blood needs to be tested anyway?

  • @bbedward said:

    That's what I meant, many don't even know.

    And they do test all donated blood, but more time and effort to double test false positives and take the time to receive donations from HIV positive people - I guess that's portion of it.

    In this case they need blood in a hurry, take it from the lowest risk people possible.

    So if I'm considered low risk, they don't test it at all? That seems pretty sketchy. I just don't see the point in banning gays from donating. That means they don't test the blood at all, which is an awful idea. If someone wants to donate blood and help out, why turn them away if the blood needs to be tested anyway?

    @mld-woody said:

    So if I'm considered low risk, they don't test it at all? That seems pretty sketchy. I just don't see the point in banning gays from donating. That means they don't test the blood at all, which is an awful idea. If someone wants to donate blood and help out, why turn them away if the blood needs to be tested anyway?

    No they test, but perhaps they don't test every little sample but they test larger samples.

    Maybe taking in a higher risk person (like a gay man) gives you a higher risk of contaminating a larger sample.

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  • @mld-woody said:

    So if I'm considered low risk, they don't test it at all? That seems pretty sketchy. I just don't see the point in banning gays from donating. That means they don't test the blood at all, which is an awful idea. If someone wants to donate blood and help out, why turn them away if the blood needs to be tested anyway?

    No they test, but perhaps they don't test every little sample but they test larger samples.

    Maybe taking in a higher risk person (like a gay man) gives you a higher risk of contaminating a larger sample.

    @bbedward said:

    No they test, but perhaps they don't test every little sample but they test larger samples.

    Maybe taking in a higher risk person (like a gay man) gives you a higher risk of contaminating a larger sample.

    At the very least then you think they'd allow a gay man with an up to date negative HIV test donate.

    But at the same time, that means any crazy person can lie when they donate and give blood that they know is contaminated.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I enjoy watching the responses to a sickening event. It's incredible how fast most people fly to their pulpit.

    At this point, I've given up. I have have no answers, no solutions because they would involve rationality and that isn't something the people of the US are prepared for.

    This will be spun into another Right v Left, US vs Them shit fight.

    Stuart

    Its not about right vs. left. It's about right vs. wrong.

    It becomes left vs. right is because condemning Islamic extremism would put you libfucks on the same side as those that identify as Christians and you certainly wouldn't want to do that.

    You know its true.

    @stinkhole said:

    libfucks

    You know its true.

    So very original.

    Edit: so I see the phrase 'ban Muslims'.

    How would you apply that? You have many that are born here, red blooded Americans not overly devout on their faith and good people. I have several as friends.

    So you're just going to ban American citizens? To where? How? For how long? Are we prepared to send flesh and blood fellow citizens to a different country that will (allow) them asylum??

  • @bbedward said:

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    Those are some racist facts.

  • @bbedward said:

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    Those are some racist facts.

    @vaportrail said:

    Those are some racist facts.

    Of course neither Muslim nor homosexuality counts as a race...

    πŸ˜‰

    WSS

  • @bbedward said:

    No they test, but perhaps they don't test every little sample but they test larger samples.

    Maybe taking in a higher risk person (like a gay man) gives you a higher risk of contaminating a larger sample.

    At the very least then you think they'd allow a gay man with an up to date negative HIV test donate.

    But at the same time, that means any crazy person can lie when they donate and give blood that they know is contaminated.

    @mld-woody said:

    At the very least then you think they'd allow a gay man with an up to date negative HIV test donate.

    But at the same time, that means any crazy person can lie when they donate and give blood that they know is contaminated.

    I give blood on a regular basis and while my sanity might be in question by some of you I don't think they take my answer on the questionnaire as proof.

    WSS

  • And why are those statistics even being considered in what was clearly a radical Islamist terrorist attack?

  • But when a devout Muslim and follower of Isis assassinate dozens of gay Americans during Ramadan and our president, who refuses to so much as utter the words Muslim terrorism, bleats about gun control, it seems just the tiniest bit off point.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    At the very least then you think they'd allow a gay man with an up to date negative HIV test donate.

    But at the same time, that means any crazy person can lie when they donate and give blood that they know is contaminated.

    I give blood on a regular basis and while my sanity might be in question by some of you I don't think they take my answer on the questionnaire as proof.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I give blood on a regular basis and while my sanity might be in question by some of you I don't think they take my answer on the questionnaire as proof.

    WSS

    My sister worked for yrs as a tech in many many blood banks.. Including a stint just off the Diag .. Yeah, between HIV, Hep and a number of other blood issues, They test.. This conversation is just another "Hey look over here" attempt by the left to take focus off radical islam..

    Seriously, why is so much energy being expended to avoid the 600 lb Gorilla in the room?

  • @stinkhole said:

    libfucks

    You know its true.

    So very original.

    Edit: so I see the phrase 'ban Muslims'.

    How would you apply that? You have many that are born here, red blooded Americans not overly devout on their faith and good people. I have several as friends.

    So you're just going to ban American citizens? To where? How? For how long? Are we prepared to send flesh and blood fellow citizens to a different country that will (allow) them asylum??

    @tiamat63 said:

    So very original.

    Edit: so I see the phrase 'ban Muslims'.

    How would you apply that? You have many that are born here, red blooded Americans not overly devout on their faith and good people. I have several as friends.

    So you're just going to ban American citizens? To where? How? For how long? Are we prepared to send flesh and blood fellow citizens to a different country that will (allow) them asylum??

    Libfucks, libtards, what the fuck ever, I'm not looking for originality points. ​​Way to focus on that and omit the main point.

    So do you concede that the world faces a far greater threat from Islamic extremism than Christianity? Yes or no?

  • I wish Muslims would just die off. Fucking parasites

  • @tiamat63 said:

    So very original.

    Edit: so I see the phrase 'ban Muslims'.

    How would you apply that? You have many that are born here, red blooded Americans not overly devout on their faith and good people. I have several as friends.

    So you're just going to ban American citizens? To where? How? For how long? Are we prepared to send flesh and blood fellow citizens to a different country that will (allow) them asylum??

    Libfucks, libtards, what the fuck ever, I'm not looking for originality points. ​​Way to focus on that and omit the main point.

    So do you concede that the world faces a far greater threat from Islamic extremism than Christianity? Yes or no?

    @stinkhole said:

    Libfucks, libtards, what the fuck ever, I'm not looking for originality points. ​​Way to focus on that and omit the main point.

    So do you concede that the world faces a far greater threat from Islamic extremism than Christianity? Yes or no?

    I'm not sure why you're attempting to pick a fight with me on this. I never once attempted to argue against Islamic extremism as its a great threat and anyone whom was blind to it before shouldn't be now.

    You're going at someone whom you can't label a 'libfuck' because... I'm not one. Not that I'm saying you could call me a conservative either. However once you try to argue outside of that little bubble of yours, you get confused. I get it. Simply because I don't clearly lean either left or right you're blindsided when someone says something rather centric so you run home to the terms you know "Lib fuck/tard" ... whatever it is you dumbasses use.

    What happened to today is the result of extremism. When anyone acts in the name of their God in anything resembling a manner like this - its extremism. I take offense to anyone who would suggest otherwise. Sadly, extremism is plunging this world into darkness really damn quick.

    Too difficult to understand, sweetheart?

  • Keep yer powder dry... It's coming...

  • http://counterjihad.com/isis-infiltrated-homeland-security-orlando-terrorist-worked-major-dhs-contractor

    Are we really this clueless?

    "The security contractor also provides security guards and other security services for β€œ90 percent of U.S. nuclear facilities.”"

  • ban muslims from immigrating here. that's it. Build a legal wall.

    that muslim who did the shooting in florida....

    was investigated by the FBI. Twice. If I heard correctly,

    he's been to Syria...

    armed drones. take em out with a stun grenade and a net. Then fly them to

    south mexico. They won't be back too soon.

  • @stinkhole said:

    Libfucks, libtards, what the fuck ever, I'm not looking for originality points. ​​Way to focus on that and omit the main point.

    So do you concede that the world faces a far greater threat from Islamic extremism than Christianity? Yes or no?

    I'm not sure why you're attempting to pick a fight with me on this. I never once attempted to argue against Islamic extremism as its a great threat and anyone whom was blind to it before shouldn't be now.

    You're going at someone whom you can't label a 'libfuck' because... I'm not one. Not that I'm saying you could call me a conservative either. However once you try to argue outside of that little bubble of yours, you get confused. I get it. Simply because I don't clearly lean either left or right you're blindsided when someone says something rather centric so you run home to the terms you know "Lib fuck/tard" ... whatever it is you dumbasses use.

    What happened to today is the result of extremism. When anyone acts in the name of their God in anything resembling a manner like this - its extremism. I take offense to anyone who would suggest otherwise. Sadly, extremism is plunging this world into darkness really damn quick.

    Too difficult to understand, sweetheart?

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm not sure why you're attempting to pick a fight with me on this. I never once attempted to argue against Islamic extremism as its a great threat and anyone whom was blind to it before shouldn't be now.

    You're going at someone whom you can't label a 'libfuck' because... I'm not one. Not that I'm saying you could call me a conservative either. However once you try to argue outside of that little bubble of yours, you get confused. I get it. Simply because I don't clearly lean either left or right you're blindsided when someone says something rather centric so you run home to the terms you know "Lib fuck/tard" ... whatever it is you dumbasses use.

    What happened to today is the result of extremism. When anyone acts in the name of their God in anything resembling a manner like this - its extremism. I take offense to anyone who would suggest otherwise. Sadly, extremism is plunging this world into darkness really damn quick.

    Too difficult to understand, sweetheart?

    Stuart

    Blah blah blah.. I anticipated you wouldn't answer the question. The nightclub massacre was the result of Islamic extremism there Barak. Can you say ISLAMIC extremism there junior?

    There is no fight, again, do you concede that the world faces a far greater threat from Islamic extremism than that of Christianity?

  • AxeA Axe

    http://counterjihad.com/isis-infiltrated-homeland-security-orlando-terrorist-worked-major-dhs-contractor

    Are we really this clueless?

    "The security contractor also provides security guards and other security services for β€œ90 percent of U.S. nuclear facilities.”"

    @axe said:

    http://counterjihad.com/isis-infiltrated-homeland-security-orlando-terrorist-worked-major-dhs-contractor

    Are we really this clueless?

    "The security contractor also provides security guards and other security services for β€œ90 percent of U.S. nuclear facilities.”"

    "In 2008, Charlotte, N.C.-based Convergys Corp. came under fire for employing a Muslim computer operator who openly maintained a jihadist website featuring grisly images of American soldiers blown up by al-Qaida terrorists overseas which he said β€œbring great happiness to me.” Convergys at the time had landed a $2.5 billion federal contract to set up emergency communications centers in the event to terrorist attacks and other disasters.

    The employee, 22-year-old Sami Khan, turned out to be an al-Qaida operative. He was killed in 2011 in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen."

    *******************************

    Obamao is desperately stirring up a new violent demographic - to benefit from the crisis.

    The more violence from muslims and illegals... the closer he thinks he is to convincing the

    Supreme Court to ignore our 2nd Amendment rights. don't even try it. You'd have to kill

    millions of Americans. and Obamao/Ayers/Dorn/holder/lynch/etc etc...

    they know that. Just remember, ObaMao's political career started in the house of friend Bill Ayers'

    father.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/2455-obamas-friend-ayers-kill-25-million-americans

  • it's ISLAMIC extremism. those who keep trying to make it generic,

    are just being politically correct to a dumb degree.

    there is a world-wide ISLAMIC extremism. It's freaking GLOBAL.

    there is no world-wide extremist terrorism in the name of any other religion

    on earth.