Reasons to believe the Browns have turned the corner into turning into a winning TEAM
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But we DO have one major "belly acher", pain in the ass that he/it is. VK, is that all you can do, is bitch?
Complainers seem to never be "doers". Please tell us, specifically, what you would do to make us great? I mean, like WHO you would have drafted & when. Give us the whole 7 rounds too.
Mike
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VesnaKociper said:
Have already been through this. Look ass paste, my "bitching" is far less fucking annoying than listening to you jackoffs post about the team playing fucking laser tag as one of the reasons things are looking up.
Lmao right here
The problem the Browns have is NOT in the late rounds, the problem the Browns have is that they picked #2 and #32 overall and came away without one of the top 10 ranked players. Bosa, Lynch, Elliot, Doctson... even Wentz...................the rest is a crap shoot of even harder odds. Look man, when you have no QB WRs, RB, or pass rushers of note, it isn't being NEGATIVE to predict 2- 14 +/- one win. It is perfectly reasonable..........
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Thanks muchly!
......anyone know what flaming hoop I need to jump through so as to put up my avatar? (does it take a certain number of posts or something?)
Thanks muchly!
......anyone know what flaming hoop I need to jump through so as to put up my avatar? (does it take a certain number of posts or something?)
Not that I'm aware of. When you're logged in, go to the far upper right, find your screen name, and hit the drop down menu and select "My profile". From there it's Profile settings- & Photo. Then "Change my photo". You have options.

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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
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Thanks muchly!
......anyone know what flaming hoop I need to jump through so as to put up my avatar? (does it take a certain number of posts or something?)
Not that I'm aware of. When you're logged in, go to the far upper right, find your screen name, and hit the drop down menu and select "My profile". From there it's Profile settings- & Photo. Then "Change my photo". You have options.

VK has repeatedly said "Bosa and Lynch" were the first two steps in his path to Browns' greatness.
VesnaKociper said:
... my "bitching" is far less fucking annoying than listening to you jackoffs post about the team playing fucking laser tag as one of the reasons things are looking up.
Could be a matter of perspective... or objectivity...
Not that I'm aware of. When you're logged in, go to the far upper right, find your screen name, and hit the drop down menu and select "My profile". From there it's Profile settings- & Photo. Then "Change my photo". You have options.

Only other thing I can think of is a size restriction...
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Hue is the best head coach prospect we have had in longer than I can remember. Not so sure about the roster yet. I am optimistic because I just want to watch the Browns win; but, I am not saying we have made it to the promised land or anything. I just feel that we will be more competitive this season and just may be playoff contenders in a couple years. Just have to wait and see.
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Okay, it's like this:
You're lost in the woods, for weeks... it freaking sucks, for weeks, ran out of water,
no telephone, and all of a sudden you find the trail again, you exactly how to get back,
and ight there is a nice, clear spring of perfect fresh water.
Sure, you haven't made it back home yet, but you are delighted
to be back on track.
Bitching that you aren't home yet misses the point. You are on your way.
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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
Actually he did- on one count. He wanted Paxton Lynch bad.
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Okay, it's like this:
You're lost in the woods, for weeks... it freaking sucks, for weeks, ran out of water,
no telephone, and all of a sudden you find the trail again, you exactly how to get back,
and ight there is a nice, clear spring of perfect fresh water.
Sure, you haven't made it back home yet, but you are delighted
to be back on track.
Bitching that you aren't home yet misses the point. You are on your way.
The problem is that we thought wed seen that trail before and it lead us in a circle to exactly where we are and that spring was filled with venomous snakes and sewage.Okay, it's like this:
You're lost in the woods, for weeks... it freaking sucks, for weeks, ran out of water,
no telephone, and all of a sudden you find the trail again, you exactly how to get back,
and ight there is a nice, clear spring of perfect fresh water.
Sure, you haven't made it back home yet, but you are delighted
to be back on track.
Bitching that you aren't home yet misses the point. You are on your way.
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Okay, it's like this:
You're lost in the woods, for weeks... it freaking sucks, for weeks, ran out of water,
no telephone, and all of a sudden you find the trail again, you exactly how to get back,
and ight there is a nice, clear spring of perfect fresh water.
Sure, you haven't made it back home yet, but you are delighted
to be back on track.
Bitching that you aren't home yet misses the point. You are on your way.
Then again the fifth or sixth time you feel that way and turn a corner that just has to be the one that leads you home and again you recognize that bent branch that tells you this is where you were many many days ago...Okay, it's like this:
You're lost in the woods, for weeks... it freaking sucks, for weeks, ran out of water,
no telephone, and all of a sudden you find the trail again, you exactly how to get back,
and ight there is a nice, clear spring of perfect fresh water.
Sure, you haven't made it back home yet, but you are delighted
to be back on track.
Bitching that you aren't home yet misses the point. You are on your way.
WSS.
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Sounds like I need to take you guys out on a wilderness trip and
teach ya some learnin....
when you CLEARLY SEE that you are back on the CLEARLY MARKED TRAIL,
and the water is PERFECTLY FINE.....
nothing else matters. We're good.
geez.

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VesnaKociper said:
Look man, when you have no QB WRs, RB, or pass rushers of note, it isn't being NEGATIVE to predict 2- 14 +/- one win. It is perfectly reasonable..........
Maybe one of these days you'll decide to bet on your horse before the race...
The WR Cleveland drafted in the 1st round scored 20 TDs in 2015 and 13 TDs in 2014.
Bosa had 5 sacks in 2015 while Nassib led the country with 15.5 sacks and Ogbah had 13 sacks.
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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
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I think we see a smartly adapted defense and offense per the talents of the players.
That is huge right there.
The lack of wrs has been so obvious to oppoents and fans alike - but they
wouldn't fix it.
There is going to be a new era of Browns football - smart, excellently coached, well designed on both sides
of the los, and a fill-in of new players hand(s) picked to love the game, smart, terrific work ethic, and very talented.
No more "just one player" to turn things around. That's why the trade downs. I can see at least two more wins
just because. The ace in the hole is Hue. He knows the players in the division opponents, the coaches...
he's like the perfect HC to help put the Browns in the right direction.
Nobody is saying playoffs - but the difference is going to be dramatic in HOW they play every down.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
It was only 2 years ago when we got off to a 7-4 start playing around a big volume of injuries via a next man up "play like a Brown" mentality. We lost a lot of very close games in that 2104 season with either 2nd half leads or knotted scores. I know it wasn't the toughest schedule we've ever had; but we still had 3 playoff teams in our own division we had to play twice apiece. We beat 2 of them. Indy made the AFC Championship Game and we had a 2nd half lead on them. Carolina made the playoffs and we had a lead on them. If memory serves me right the only 2 teams that beat us easily were Cincy and Houston.
In so many of those games we had the effort but lacked the play makers to keep the leads and close the deal. It looks like our FO drafted some exciting play makers at WR. On top of that, Al Saunders is one of the best WR Coaches in this league. Back in 1999, he coached the greatest Show on Turf in St Louis and guided rookie WR Torry Holt and company to a Superbowl Championship. And who was the gotta have QB there? A former grocery store employee with zero experience starting in the NFL - Kurt Warner. St Louis paid big $ to sign FA QB Trent Green for that season and he blew out his knee in the preseason. The only 5 games in 1998 so what were their fans supposed to be predicting after Green went on IR before week 1?
I'm excited about what's been added and the season ahead. I think this team can be every bit as pleasantly surprising as our 2014 team appeared to be.
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