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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @mld-woody said:

    But every terrorist tied to Islam is 100% a legit Muslim just like all of the rest?

    Just trying to understand the double standard here

    Yes Woody, if they say they're doing it for Islam and conducting jihad, that makes them a true Muslim. The guy who shot up Planned Parenthood - he's a true Christian. Not every true Muslim is a terrorist. Not every true Christian is a terrorist. Why are we even having this conversation?

    relevant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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    F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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    @vaportrail said:

    Yes Woody, if they say they're doing it for Islam and conducting jihad, that makes them a true Muslim. The guy who shot up Planned Parenthood - he's a true Christian. Not every true Muslim is a terrorist. Not every true Christian is a terrorist. Why are we even having this conversation?

    relevant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

    to which I concur -

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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      Extremists are religious on an extreme level - I find the more religious one is the more strict/extreme they are with their beliefs.

      But you don't see too many of the evangelicals holding up heads and drowning people in cages, so idk.

      My Saudi Arabia friends drank tons of booze and partied all the time

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      • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

        @mld-woody said:

        But every terrorist tied to Islam is 100% a legit Muslim just like all of the rest?

        Just trying to understand the double standard here

        Yes Woody, if they say they're doing it for Islam and conducting jihad, that makes them a true Muslim. The guy who shot up Planned Parenthood - he's a true Christian. Not every true Muslim is a terrorist. Not every true Christian is a terrorist. Why are we even having this conversation?

        relevant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @vaportrail said:

        Yes Woody, if they say they're doing it for Islam and conducting jihad, that makes them a true Muslim. The guy who shot up Planned Parenthood - he's a true Christian. Not every true Muslim is a terrorist. Not every true Christian is a terrorist. Why are we even having this conversation?

        relevant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

        And I'm fine if all people that say they are Christian or Muslim, no matter how bad, fall under that category.

        Just pointing out the double standard

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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          the real christian is a person who forgives a wrong doing even at his or her own expense

          smears are usually broad brush attempts to ... well everyone knows that this is what the OP is all about....

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            P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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            Yeah because words hurt soooooooo much more than murders. Pussy.

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              @calfoxwc said:

              so, a "Christian" preacher saying very stupid things...

              is the same as isil beheading and raping and torturing.

              Words = tossing gay people off of scaffolds to their death.

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              @logicisforsquares said:

              Words = tossing gay people off of scaffolds to their death.

              .

              Welcome to libtopia

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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                Yeah some christians are doing and saying some wacky shit. Some of it is even terroristic. But when you can find 100,000 cases of it like I can with islam right now let's revisit this thread. Most christian terrorism you're going to find is in africa, by the way, that old cradle of light and civilization.

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                  But at least you acknowledged shit is going down in Africa. But they aren't "real Christians" anyway, right?

                  It's almost like the correlation here is with the environment, not so much the religion.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                    I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                    But at least you acknowledged shit is going down in Africa. But they aren't "real Christians" anyway, right?

                    It's almost like the correlation here is with the environment, not so much the religion.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                    No, no you wouldn't because that would be horrific. You'd like to see zero examples from any group, but that isn't happening. There's extreme views in the US, the UK, the middle east, africa, pretty much everywhere in the world there are people with fucked up views. Some places make it easier to get away with those views, while some make it possible to rule by them. Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                    So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                      But pretending that religious terrorism is equally divided amongst all faiths doesn't really help in getting to the bottom of it any more than pretending AIDS is equally prevalent among the gay and straight communities.

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        • F FairHooker11

                          the real christian is a person who forgives a wrong doing even at his or her own expense

                          smears are usually broad brush attempts to ... well everyone knows that this is what the OP is all about....

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @fairhooker11 said:

                          the real christian is a person who forgives a wrong doing even at his or her own expense

                          smears are usually broad brush attempts to ... well everyone knows that this is what the OP is all about....

                          Im not smearing anything, im reminding you christians that ur not all that far removed from your old testament brothers. I know its a completely useless attemp at possibly getting you guys to re examine your own history and origins so perhaps you would better understand how a culture when faced with difficulties can oftrn backslide into this trap of satan. Which is what fundamentalism exactly is.

                          Im not hearing alot of you moderates condemning these extremist christians enough to my liking. Therefore i have no choice but to broad stroke you all as people who think perhaps gays should br humanely euthanized......and the coloreds ofc we cant be forgetting them now can we...

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                            No, no you wouldn't because that would be horrific. You'd like to see zero examples from any group, but that isn't happening. There's extreme views in the US, the UK, the middle east, africa, pretty much everywhere in the world there are people with fucked up views. Some places make it easier to get away with those views, while some make it possible to rule by them. Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                            So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            @gftchris said:

                            So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

                            Chris won the thread right here

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                              No, no you wouldn't because that would be horrific. You'd like to see zero examples from any group, but that isn't happening. There's extreme views in the US, the UK, the middle east, africa, pretty much everywhere in the world there are people with fucked up views. Some places make it easier to get away with those views, while some make it possible to rule by them. Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                              So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

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                              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                              Buddhism in the West has a good rep. Sri Lanka and Myanmar - they're not so peaceful.

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                                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                In their defense, the buddhists thete are tired of being shit on by muslims

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  I'd like to see 100,000 examples.

                                  No, no you wouldn't because that would be horrific. You'd like to see zero examples from any group, but that isn't happening. There's extreme views in the US, the UK, the middle east, africa, pretty much everywhere in the world there are people with fucked up views. Some places make it easier to get away with those views, while some make it possible to rule by them. Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                                  So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  No, no you wouldn't because that would be horrific. You'd like to see zero examples from any group, but that isn't happening. There's extreme views in the US, the UK, the middle east, africa, pretty much everywhere in the world there are people with fucked up views. Some places make it easier to get away with those views, while some make it possible to rule by them. Some religions, like it or not, lend themselves to being interpreted in extremist ways more than others - islam more than christianity, both a hell of a lot more than buddhism for example.

                                  So can we stop the pathetic point scoring about which religion is worse and agree that neither the people praising gays being killed, nor the people actually doing the killing, have a place in modern society?

                                  I never said either group did.

                                  In my comparison I'm not advocating for Muslim extremists. I'm just trying to cover all of the bases. Yes both groups suck and yes more violently extreme Muslims exist than Christians.

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    You csn only rape so many buddhist women before buddha d cides its time to forget all that peaceful meditation crap

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                                      But pretending that religious terrorism is equally divided amongst all faiths doesn't really help in getting to the bottom of it any more than pretending AIDS is equally prevalent among the gay and straight communities.

                                      WSS

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      But pretending that religious terrorism is equally divided amongst all faiths doesn't really help in getting to the bottom of it any more than pretending AIDS is equally prevalent among the gay and straight communities.

                                      WSS

                                      Who here is saying its equal?

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        But pretending that religious terrorism is equally divided amongst all faiths doesn't really help in getting to the bottom of it any more than pretending AIDS is equally prevalent among the gay and straight communities.

                                        WSS

                                        Who here is saying its equal?

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                                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Who here is saying its equal?

                                        I would say that in the case of a crazy fucking muslim murdering 50 people being compared to a Christian crackpot minister is definitely an attempt to balance the two out.

                                        Which was the basis of the OP.

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