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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @bbedward said:

    I think freedom of speech covers saying things people might find offensive

    Maybe saying "I'm going to kill you tonight" is not ok, but saying "feminism is cancer" is alright

    I don't particularly find it offensive either... it's stupid, but not offensive... but that's not the point.

    The point is that on Twitter, just as is the case on the BrownsBoard, there are limits to the "behavior" that is tolerated. And those limits are determined by the powers that be.

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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    I don't particularly find it offensive either... it's stupid, but not offensive... but that's not the point.

    The point is that on Twitter, just as is the case on the BrownsBoard, there are limits to the "behavior" that is tolerated. And those limits are determined by the powers that be.

    There is nothing that Milo said that deserved the banhammer. Some of the things his followers said to her? Absolutely they deserved it. This sets a horrible precedent.

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      @bbedward said:

      I think freedom of speech covers saying things people might find offensive

      Maybe saying "I'm going to kill you tonight" is not ok, but saying "feminism is cancer" is alright

      I don't particularly find it offensive either... it's stupid, but not offensive... but that's not the point.

      The point is that on Twitter, just as is the case on the BrownsBoard, there are limits to the "behavior" that is tolerated. And those limits are determined by the powers that be.

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      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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      @tour2ma said:

      ...The point is that on Twitter, just as is the case on the BrownsBoard, there are limits to the "behavior" that is tolerated. And those limits are determined by the powers that be.

      @bbedward said:

      Yea but still saying something that offends somebody and getting banned for it can still be criticized as bullshit

      They don't tend to ban people for praising a terrorist attack on their platform, but they do when a blue haired fat girl gets triggered.

      Twitter is indeed allowed to set its own code of conduct on its site, but the crux of the argument is that Twitter's standards and TOS is unequally enforced. Now, i'm about as conservative as Cal is liberal or DieHard is insightful, but even I have noticed that Twitter seems to swing the ban-hammer down more quickly on conservative viewpoints - like the one's that Milo represents - than they do on statements and ideas from more left-leaning ideologies. The fact that Leslie Jones can be free to insult white people in her tweets without rebuke while at the same time crying racism when people troll her about her shitty movie seems to be disingenuous.

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        @tour2ma said:

        ...The point is that on Twitter, just as is the case on the BrownsBoard, there are limits to the "behavior" that is tolerated. And those limits are determined by the powers that be.

        @bbedward said:

        Yea but still saying something that offends somebody and getting banned for it can still be criticized as bullshit

        They don't tend to ban people for praising a terrorist attack on their platform, but they do when a blue haired fat girl gets triggered.

        Twitter is indeed allowed to set its own code of conduct on its site, but the crux of the argument is that Twitter's standards and TOS is unequally enforced. Now, i'm about as conservative as Cal is liberal or DieHard is insightful, but even I have noticed that Twitter seems to swing the ban-hammer down more quickly on conservative viewpoints - like the one's that Milo represents - than they do on statements and ideas from more left-leaning ideologies. The fact that Leslie Jones can be free to insult white people in her tweets without rebuke while at the same time crying racism when people troll her about her shitty movie seems to be disingenuous.

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        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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        @jbluhm86 said:

        Twitter is indeed allowed to set its own code of conduct on its site, but the crux of the argument is that Twitter's standards and TOS is unequally enforced. Now, i'm about as conservative as Cal is liberal or DieHard is insightful, but even I have noticed that Twitter seems to swing the ban-hammer down more quickly on conservative viewpoints - like the one's that Milo represents - than they do on statements and ideas from more left-leaning ideologies. The fact that Leslie Jones can be free to insult white people in her tweets without rebuke while at the same time crying racism when people troll her about her shitty movie seems to be disingenuous.

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          @jbluhm86 said:

          Twitter is indeed allowed to set its own code of conduct on its site, but the crux of the argument is that Twitter's standards and TOS is unequally enforced. Now, i'm about as conservative as Cal is liberal or DieHard is insightful, but even I have noticed that Twitter seems to swing the ban-hammer down more quickly on conservative viewpoints - like the one's that Milo represents - than they do on statements and ideas from more left-leaning ideologies. The fact that Leslie Jones can be free to insult white people in her tweets without rebuke while at the same time crying racism when people troll her about her shitty movie seems to be disingenuous.

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          @vaportrail said:

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          TBH, those people sound like fucking losers to me. They should harden the fuck up and stand up for their freedoms in their own countries instead of saying fuck it and trying to establish a compound in South America.

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            @vaportrail said:

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            TBH, those people sound like fucking losers to me. They should harden the fuck up and stand up for their freedoms in their own countries instead of saying fuck it and trying to establish a compound in South America.

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            VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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            @jbluhm86 said:

            TBH, those people sound like fucking losers to me.

            I mean, it is 4chan.

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              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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              "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                Gotta love folks who think "freedom of speech" protects all speech everywhere...

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                @tour2ma said:

                Gotta love folks who think "freedom of speech" protects all speech everywhere...

                Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Gotta love folks who think "freedom of speech" protects all speech everywhere...

                  Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

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                  jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

                  And it apparently protects the hypocrites of the world too, like Leslie Jones:

                  "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Gotta love folks who think "freedom of speech" protects all speech everywhere...

                      Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                      Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

                      Child please...

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                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                          Right. It only protects the isiah crowell's of the world. Not the milo whatevers.

                          Child please...

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                          @tour2ma said:

                          Child please...

                          Still gonna defend that twat to the death, eh?

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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