Swag Survey Thursday
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Yes, compared to Harvard...and other Ivy League schools, 1.2B is not much. But compared to other smaller liberal arts schools, it is a huge amount. Particularly in ratio to their student population.
Where my son went, Kenyon, they only have a 206 million dollar endowment.....that is very very low comparatively. Probably because they actually use that money to educate their students.
Comparable schools: Oberlin 814M, Denison 800M, Wooster 250M, Dayton 518M.
Her school is #5. They give lots of money to kids that don't "need it"......While I agree, that is merit based aid....and my daughter has failed in terms of merit...as she has not been a good student. I regret sending her there...as she wasn't able to compete academically. And apparently that is what they are all about.
Sorry about the personal rant everyone. I am sure many of you have had your issues.
Tom- this would be my rant. What in the f**king hell is Harvard doing with all that money? Consulting my friendly on line calculator- $38 billion invested in 1.4% 10 year treasury bills = $532 million PER YEAR. That alone would be enough to completely pay the University of Dayton's total expenses in that time frame- and then some.
As I said earlier- it should be free tuition should you get accepted. The endowment income is more than they collect in undergraduate tuition- and for sure not everyone pays full freight of $72k.
Tom- this would be my rant. What in the f**king hell is Harvard doing with all that money? Consulting my friendly on line calculator- $38 billion invested in 1.4% 10 year treasury bills = $532 million PER YEAR. That alone would be enough to completely pay the University of Dayton's total expenses in that time frame- and then some.
As I said earlier- it should be free tuition should you get accepted. The endowment income is more than they collect in undergraduate tuition- and for sure not everyone pays full freight of $72k.
Harvard has about 6700 undergrad students.....but more than double that in professional/grad students. They have 21,000 overall students. So I suspect a lot of their money is invested in their graduate programs....more than their UG.
But, I guess, to be certain, that I am the beneficiary of a similar situation. Cornell has about 22,000 overall students, but about 14,500 of those are undergrads, and about 7500 are grad/professional students. (the opposite of Harvard's numbers) My son gets a full ride....and is paid like 32K per year to work for the school teaching and doing lab research.
So, maybe that is where a lot of their money goes.
Cornell's endowment is about 6 Billion. Note: that is an Ivy League school with 21,000 students....and had an endowment size per student of 276,000 per student My daughter's school is in the top 25 in endowment size per student with $476,000.
Yet, they are skinflints when it comes to providing need base financial aid. They specifically told me that they are not committed to meeting the financial needs of their student......and based on some developments.....I am not sure that they are committed to the actual education of their students. My daughter needed some help with her academics. From my point of view...they did fuck all to help her. They practically, literally said fuck you to her when she was having problems.
And FYI....while Harvard has the largest endowment....Princeton and Yale actually have higher per pupil endowments. Harvard has those 21K overall students....but Princeton only has a bit over 8000 and Yale only 12K. not sure how their undergrad vs. grad ratio is.
So, yes, I equate these schools to Smaug the Dragon, they just fucking lay and sleep on their gold.
And that is why I am so high on Kenyon.....only a 200 mill endowment. They use their fucking money to educate their students. (They have no graduate programs)
And this is a school that has produced a President of the United States, a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Prime Minister of Sweden, a Secretary of State...and on and on.
And what has my daughter's school produced? A fucking guy that dresses up in a purple dinosaur uniform (yes, the guy that played Barney went to Trinity), a woman who is better know for her tits and ass than her brains (Jaclyn Smith)....and a drunk driving murderer who inherited her money and who uses it to buy her way out of criminal charges.
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Zombo said:
The Jacklyn Smith school wins.
Z
As pretty as she is, she always came off phony to me. Though, I guess that is what fellatio is for....to keep them shut up.
But...women would say Paul Newman...who went to Kenyon.
You are a Clarion grad, right Z....or were you Penn St.?
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Zombo said:
The Jacklyn Smith school wins.
Z
As pretty as she is, she always came off phony to me. Though, I guess that is what fellatio is for....to keep them shut up.
But...women would say Paul Newman...who went to Kenyon.
You are a Clarion grad, right Z....or were you Penn St.?
As pretty as she is, she always came off phony to me. Though, I guess that is what fellatio is for....to keep them shut up.
But...women would say Paul Newman...who went to Kenyon.
You are a Clarion grad, right Z....or were you Penn St.?
Indiana Univ. of Pennsylvania.
Jimmy Stewart is from Indiana Pa., and attended the elementary school on campus.
Notable alumni include Art Rooney, Jim Haslett, Ben McAdoo (Giants HC), Nellie Blye, Edward Abbey, an astronaut, several politicians and ballplayers, The Clarks, the founder of Youtube and, most notably ... Playmate Model Lindsey Vuolo

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Well....is it in Indiana or Pennsylvania. Make up your mind.


Nice piece of ass though.
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I understand Zombo's Identity Crisis. He can't tell if he is from Indiana or Pennsylvania.
That is OK....a number of other place in Pennsylvania have the same problem as there is the following in that state the following cities:
California, Pennsylvania
Oklahoma, Pennsylvania
Washington, Pennsylvania
Wyoming, Pennsylvania
(New) Texas, Pennsylvania
Delaware (Water Gap) Pennsylvania
Ohio(ville), Pennsylvania
Ohio(pyle), Pennsylvania
There is even Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania (actually Pennsylvania Furnace)
And they can't keep track of which country they are in as there is a Newfoundland, Pennsylvania.
Doh!
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But, we in Ohio shouldn't rag on PA about its identity crisis. The following cites exist in Ohio (with populations where I could find them):
Delaware...20,000
Florida..300
Idaho
Kansas
Nevada...800
(New) California
New Hampshire
Ohio (City)...900
Oregon..18.300
Texas
Washington C.H.
Wyoming. 8100
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But, we in Ohio shouldn't rag on PA about its identity crisis. The following cites exist in Ohio (with populations where I could find them):
Delaware...20,000
Florida..300
Idaho
Kansas
Nevada...800
(New) California
New Hampshire
Ohio (City)...900
Oregon..18.300
Texas
Washington C.H.
Wyoming. 8100
But, we in Ohio shouldn't rag on PA about its identity crisis. The following cites exist in Ohio (with populations where I could find them):
lol... reminded me of a childhood, family trip to see Ohio Caverns near West Liberty, Ohio... turned out there were two West Liberty, Ohios.... and they were not all that close to each other.
Of course, we drove to the wrong one first...
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I understand Zombo's Identity Crisis. He can't tell if he is from Indiana or Pennsylvania.
That is OK....a number of other place in Pennsylvania have the same problem as there is the following in that state the following cities:
California, Pennsylvania
Oklahoma, Pennsylvania
Washington, Pennsylvania
Wyoming, Pennsylvania
(New) Texas, Pennsylvania
Delaware (Water Gap) Pennsylvania
Ohio(ville), Pennsylvania
Ohio(pyle), Pennsylvania
There is even Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania (actually Pennsylvania Furnace)
And they can't keep track of which country they are in as there is a Newfoundland, Pennsylvania.
Doh!
I understand Zombo's Identity Crisis. He can't tell if he is from Indiana or Pennsylvania.
That is OK....a number of other place in Pennsylvania have the same problem as there is the following in that state the following cities:
California, Pennsylvania
Oklahoma, Pennsylvania
Washington, Pennsylvania
Wyoming, Pennsylvania
(New) Texas, Pennsylvania
Delaware (Water Gap) Pennsylvania
Ohio(ville), Pennsylvania
Ohio(pyle), Pennsylvania
There is even Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania (actually Pennsylvania Furnace)
And they can't keep track of which country they are in as there is a Newfoundland, Pennsylvania.
Doh!
I was born in Pennsylvania, I went to school in Indiana ... what crisis?
Indiana and California are in the same division, it is actually a pretty good rivalry.
Zombo
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