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  • You go and you get talent - end of story. You don't fall ass backwards into a QB unless you're Bill Belichick. You don't luck your way into a mid round guy becoming your franchise savior.

    You go an you get talent. We went and we got talent. If he doesn't work, we go and we get more talent. The end.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You go and you get talent - end of story. You don't fall ass backwards into a QB unless you're Bill Belichick. You don't luck your way into a mid round guy becoming your franchise savior.

    You go an you get talent. We went and we got talent. If he doesn't work, we go and we get more talent. The end.

    Of course different people have different views of what talent is. Our FO did NOT apparently think the likes of Goff....and particularly Wentz were all that talented....or they would have got them. Remember....they picked up Griffin knowing that they could possibly have a choice of one of those 2...and decided to go the RG way.

  • I disagree - no qb would be worth forgetting the opportunity for the extra picks, assuming the draft picks

    pan out and make a big difference...

    when you have a lot of needs, and desperately need to upgrade your lb and wr

    positions.

  • I disagree - no qb would be worth forgetting the opportunity for the extra picks, assuming the draft picks

    pan out and make a big difference...

    when you have a lot of needs, and desperately need to upgrade your lb and wr

    positions.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I disagree - no qb would be worth forgetting the opportunity for the extra picks, assuming the draft picks

    pan out and make a big difference...

    when you have a lot of needs, and desperately need to upgrade your lb and wr

    positions.

    I don't know.....if you had what almost everyone thought was a sure fire thing.....a John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck I think you forgo the opportunity for extra picks and you take that sure fire guy.

    Goff/Wentz were NOT viewed in that stratosphere....so you do get those extra picks if you don't think so highly of them.

  • You go and you get talent - end of story. You don't fall ass backwards into a QB unless you're Bill Belichick. You don't luck your way into a mid round guy becoming your franchise savior.

    You go an you get talent. We went and we got talent. If he doesn't work, we go and we get more talent. The end.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You go and you get talent - end of story. You don't fall ass backwards into a QB unless you're Bill Belichick. You don't luck your way into a mid round guy becoming your franchise savior.

    You go an you get talent. We went and we got talent. If he doesn't work, we go and we get more talent. The end.

    If Griffin flames out (looks like Kessler may be another Colt McCoy) The Browns have all the ammunition they need next year to draft their quarterback. Their first, the Eagles first, and the Titans second.

  • That's all well and good, but before Luck, when was the last sure fire thing? Peyton manning, 14 years earlier? Unless you think we're planning for 2026, we need to try to get someone.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You go and you get talent - end of story. You don't fall ass backwards into a QB unless you're Bill Belichick. You don't luck your way into a mid round guy becoming your franchise savior.

    You go an you get talent. We went and we got talent. If he doesn't work, we go and we get more talent. The end.

    If Griffin flames out (looks like Kessler may be another Colt McCoy) The Browns have all the ammunition they need next year to draft their quarterback. Their first, the Eagles first, and the Titans second.

    @hoorta said:

    If Griffin flames out (looks like Kessler may be another Colt McCoy) The Browns have all the ammunition they need next year to draft their quarterback. Their first, the Eagles first, and the Titans second.

    ...and their own second, tbf.

  • From what I gather, the best QB prospects in college this year pretty much could all stay in school for at least another year....if they wanted to (not that they would)

    DeShaun Watson

    Kaaya

    JT Barret

    Baker Mayfield

    All juniors this year.

    The best seniors on the board are:

    Chad Kelly Ole Miss

    CJ Beatherd Iowa

    Josh Dobbs Tennessee

    Seth Russell Baylor

    Gunnar Keil Cincinnati

    How these guys would rate in the next draft, I don't know.

    Hell, remember....Goff and Wentz did not emerge onto the top of the list until late in the last college season. Someone could come out of the woodwork.

  • From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

  • From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    @unsympathetic said:

    From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    It's probably too early to speculate. Should the Browns really suck this year- the two firsts should be plenty enough to get whatever Sashi and DePo think we need.

  • Nothing surprising about RGIII.

  • From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    @unsympathetic said:

    From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Enjoyed reviewing the old opinions.

    Me, too... did not take the time earlier, but just did. Lot of bleed-over Wentz-backing noted that has turned into edible Crow.

    Not ready to place a bet yet on RG, but still feel McC has a great chance to be traded once camp/pre-season QB injuries start mounting up...

    @tour2ma said:

    Me, too... did not take the time earlier, but just did. Lot of bleed-over Wentz-backing noted that has turned into edible Crow.

    Not ready to place a bet yet on RG, but still feel McC has a great chance to be traded once camp/pre-season QB injuries start mounting up...

    **********************

    What? Because he probably won't be starting in Philly?

    He had the best numbets in training camp so far.... and he is a rookie.

    https://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/07/carson_wentz_sam_bradford_report_card_from_day_5_o.html#10

  • @unsympathetic said:

    From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    Yeah I don't get it. He was nothing special in every game I watched the U play.

  • Luke Falk

  • List of QBs in the next class isn't very compelling. I've already confirmed with Tour that none of them know how to go to their second read.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    From all the mocks it looks like Kaaya is going to be our guy.

    Watson will probably go to SF earlier than our second pick in the first.

    I'm completely a fan of taking Garrett if we have the #1 overall because you simply can't pass on that kind of talent, and the Iggles pick will be high enough to get Kaaya.

    But we could possibly trade with the 49ers to get Watson.. that would be interesting.

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    I literally know nothing about him. Had not even heard his name until a few days ago. I guess I don't remember watching any Miami Games this past year.

    So....he doesn't do anything to make you forget Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar, eh?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    Yeah I don't get it. He was nothing special in every game I watched the U play.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Yeah I don't get it. He was nothing special in every game I watched the U play.

    His first half against FSU is almost unwatchable.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Kaaya is absolute garbage. The fact that he's being touted as possibly the top QB in this draft is hilarious to me.

    I literally know nothing about him. Had not even heard his name until a few days ago. I guess I don't remember watching any Miami Games this past year.

    So....he doesn't do anything to make you forget Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar, eh?

    @the-gipper said:

    I literally know nothing about him. Had not even heard his name until a few days ago. I guess I don't remember watching any Miami Games this past year.

    So....he doesn't do anything to make you forget Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar, eh?

    He's so bad he almost makes me forget they existed.

  • My boys made him look REALLY bad. hehehehe

  • Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I can really make the case for starting Josh McCown. I'm not saying it's the RIGHT thing to do, but there is some precedent for starting an "experienced" (ok...OLD) QB and getting decent results, if only for a couple of years. Should RG III falter, I don't think it's a stretch to say that Hue Jackson will go to McCown, and may go to him rather quickly. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have RG III play well and be the guy for years to come, but I also know the odds are against that. I mean, if only our Browns thought that RG III could be a starter, that tells me something is wrong right there.

    But the more I look at our offensive roster, the more I start to see some talent there. I'm not saying we're "loaded" or anything stupid like that, but before the draft I remember thinking, "Who the hell is going to score the ball?" Crow apparently is in tremendous shape and has looked strong early in camp. Duke had a solid rookie season catching the ball, and apparently Terrell Pryor is no longer trying to switch to receiver, he's actually making plays just about every day. Sprinkle in a guy named Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Higgins, and Gary Barnidge...and the cupboard doesn't appear to be as bare as I once believed. The point of this rambling is, would our weapons be better served playing with a QB who somehow is playing his best ball in his late 30's?

    Obviously, nobody knows the answer to this question, but it's pretty interesting to ponder. I think there is a comfort to playing McCown, and it's entirely possible that he could play better than he did last season under the schooling of a proven offensive mind. Afterall, I've read multiple articles stating how Hue Jackson has worked miracles with other QB's, and how he could do it with RG III...but none of those articles said one word on how Hue could affect Josh McCown's performance.

    I think it's safe to say that RG III is going to have every chance to win the job, but the more I think about it, the more I could very easily see the crafty McCown working his way back under center. I would very much LOVE to see RG III succeed, but McCown just doesn't seem to age and both the players and the coaches love the guy.