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***Official Browns @ Packers Preseason Game Night Thread***

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  • years of cheapshots vs other nfl teams, especially in playoffs > one Joe Turkey Jones slam that wasn't after the whistle blew.

  • Goff is going to be good 😕

  • Goff is going to be good 😕

    @bbedward said:

    Goff is going to be good 😕

    And we give a shit why?

  • Just reminiscing on what could have been - even though that's not what we're supposed to do.

  • Just reminiscing on what could have been - even though that's not what we're supposed to do.

    @bbedward said:

    Just reminiscing on what could have been - even though that's not what we're supposed to do.

    It would have been nice if Goff slipped to #2 but he didn't. I don't think Kessler is any more lost than Goff or Wentz at this point - he just had the bad luck of starting 2 drives near his own goal line.

  • Goff is going to be good 😕

    @bbedward said:

    Goff is going to be good 😕

    No, no he won't....... We'll revisit this post in a few years.

  • @bbedward said:

    Just reminiscing on what could have been - even though that's not what we're supposed to do.

    It would have been nice if Goff slipped to #2 but he didn't. I don't think Kessler is any more lost than Goff or Wentz at this point - he just had the bad luck of starting 2 drives near his own goal line.

    @flugel said:

    It would have been nice if Goff slipped to #2 but he didn't. I don't think Kessler is any more lost than Goff or Wentz at this point - he just had the bad luck of starting 2 drives near his own goal line.

    i actually thought Kessler looked pretty good. teaching moments, like Shobert hitting the Kicker. i bet their situational awareness will improve drastically after a good reaming. best case? they are better for it and it never happens to either one again in their careers. worst? at least they showed us early.

  • WR Randall Hall out for season broken fibula. Opens door for Payton & Louis which Hall took Reps from..Good Luck Randall Hall!! maybe back after IR..

  • It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

  • FYI, Carson Wentz couldn't even make it through 1/2 of an NFL pre-season game before his skeleton cracked............ Glass framed pussy.

    I guess the NFL is a bit different than Mary Mother Dakota's School of the Blind, where he excelled so well.

    @d-bone said:

    FYI, Carson Wentz couldn't even make it through 1/2 of an NFL pre-season game before his skeleton cracked............ Glass framed pussy.

    I guess the NFL is a bit different than Mary Mother Dakota's School of the Blind, where he excelled so well.

    Nah... Carson just tried to stiff-rib a LB... 🙂

    @bbedward said:

    Goff is going to be good 😕

    Ya think?

    @flugel said:

    I don't think Kessler is any more lost than Goff or Wentz at this point - he just had the bad luck of starting 2 drives near his own goal line.

    Did you actually see Goff and Wentz play?

  • It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    @orion said:

    It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    Pretty accurate Orion. Mozart? Great job with that nickname.

    For a first NFL outing, it didn't take Nassib long to see some double teams. I've been looking forward to seeing how he'd respond to the transition to the next level. I was not disappointed. As he continues to fill out his frame the next couple of years with NFL strength and conditioning coaches - it's going to be fun to watch.

    With rookie QBs, I see no value in jumping to conclusions on a guy's very first outing. Austin Davis looks like a waste of time.

    I'm not as worried about RT as I am with Center right now. If worse comes to worse, Greco can probably make the move to Center while Pasztor has experience playing OG. Between Bailey, Coleman and Drango we should be able to find a suitable/decent neighbor for Pasztor on the right side.

  • The offensive line play - new coaches, new systems, it's the first preseason,

    I'm delighted they played so well.

    Ya have to fully expect these miscommunications, etc. But then again, you have

    to figure they will fix those before the next game for the most part...?

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    A lot has to do with timing, and in a "game" situation, that is a lot different

    than just training camp. If players can't fix things, they aren't on the active

    roster.

    Again, I saw upbeat, confident, aggressive play - more of what I saw in practice.

    I'm fairly confident the mistakes will be fixed overall by the third practice game.

  • @sisky-fringo said:

    the host website redirects to russia, but those particular streams are typically from the States. those aren't their personal streams, they just fetch them and host them conveniently on their site for us to watch. who said anything about government? copyright online extends wordwide and large corps DO employ people who DO monitor especially the powerhouses like the NFL and UFC. why do you think streams get shut down? Interpol Sweden much? you are being careless due to a false sense of security because you have your jailbroke firestick to fall back on...the best investment you've ever made in your life. mine was probably buying 5K shares of netflix @ $5 a share the year it came out (if i had kept it it would be worth about a 3/4 of a MIL today)...or when i bought sirius at $.02 a share, before they merged w XM...but i digress.

    why not be considerate to those breaking the law for our entertainment? it's easy enough.

    Lol dude you are way too serious..

    Is your career in it or computer networking? If not, then shut up.

    Of course I'm not being literal when I say a firestick is the best investment ever, it's called a hyperbole...

    However I would recommend it to anyone who isn't in a financial situation that allows them to spend hundreds to watch football.

    Everyone knows about those two sites you posted, they're never gonna get shut down and when/if they do there will be 100 new ones and the cycle will continue. The people will always be one step ahead of the corporations.

    Lol @ the fact that it's perfectly ok to post a hyperlink, but posting the website directly via text is careless..

    Shut the fuck up

    @adoug319 said:

    Lol dude you are way too serious..

    Is your career in it or computer networking? If not, then shut up.

    yes it is assfuck

  • @sisky-fringo said:

    you can try here #1 or #2 for starters.

    definitely don't install any players or programs. if it asks you to just pick a different link (if available) from the drop down menu. updated flash is all you need. the popups can be fierce (and often a lil sneaky to close lol) but usually quite manageable.

    Thank you Sisky!

    If it wasn't for you - we would have had to wait for the tape delayed version on the NFL Channel The NFL Channel scrolled the final score at the bottom of the screen while the game was playing.

    @flugel said:

    Thank you Sisky!

    If it wasn't for you - we would have had to wait for the tape delayed version on the NFL Channel The NFL Channel scrolled the final score at the bottom of the screen while the game was playing.

    you bet. don't you just hate spoilers?!? woulda killed it for ya, and trust this rewinding addict, i always fall behind in live games and my friends are notorious for texting results too early to me.

    please delete the evidence though, unlike a certain Doug it seems some people have more to lose than others.

    i usually PM them but it was the first game and just preseason. but still, if you would please kind sir. here's the post.

    also appears from your post, logic4squares' post, and tex's post that not everyone had those sites bookmarked.

    **passive aggressively clears throat**

    it's worth mentioning i tried about 10 links off reddit for HD streams and of those i tried they were ALL either bunk or laggy, i was pretty bummed. even through VLC. and the SD links were the same as the ones the sites i go with were using.

    also, 3 different streams i was watching were closed and/or shut down. 1 for quality/lag reasons, 1 for copywrite reasons, and one apparently just to make way for the cardinals game. it's good to have spares, i open about 15-20 tabs of them and cycle through em all, so i notice things like that. and at least with UFC, sometimes streams are still up and good but removed from the main page, so there's no way to find them again later.

    i was mostly just bustin doug's hump, i have a good friend that loves his jailbroken firestick as well and also raves about it...but it cost him $125. so if anyone knows where to get one cheaper i'd be in the market for it. my Kodi works fine but on the road a single stick would be pretty handy.

  • It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    @orion said:

    It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    i disagree they struggled everywhere and thought for a team still finding itself they looked better than expected. they didn't implode so much as just need a lot of polishing. i'm being nice but at least it certainly wasn't a clusterfuck.

    agree with pretty much all the rest and liked your assessment otherwise.

    @flugel said:

    Pretty accurate Orion. Mozart? Great job with that nickname.

    For a first NFL outing, it didn't take Nassib long to see some double teams. I've been looking forward to seeing how he'd respond to the transition to the next level. I was not disappointed. As he continues to fill out his frame the next couple of years with NFL strength and conditioning coaches - it's going to be fun to watch.

    With rookie QBs, I see no value in jumping to conclusions on a guy's very first outing. Austin Davis looks like a waste of time.

    I'm not as worried about RT as I am with Center right now. If worse comes to worse, Greco can probably make the move to Center while Pasztor has experience playing OG. Between Bailey, Coleman and Drango we should be able to find a suitable/decent neighbor for Pasztor on the right side.

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    Austin Davis checked down everything. i know his WR core wasn't 1st team but jeebus dude take a shot. your career is at stake here.

    @calfoxwc said:

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    really? i saw a lot of them. many were high or off.

    was surprised to see Bobby Griff in the shotgun so much though. really surprised, and i didn't like it.

  • @orion said:

    It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    i disagree they struggled everywhere and thought for a team still finding itself they looked better than expected. they didn't implode so much as just need a lot of polishing. i'm being nice but at least it certainly wasn't a clusterfuck.

    agree with pretty much all the rest and liked your assessment otherwise.

    @flugel said:

    Pretty accurate Orion. Mozart? Great job with that nickname.

    For a first NFL outing, it didn't take Nassib long to see some double teams. I've been looking forward to seeing how he'd respond to the transition to the next level. I was not disappointed. As he continues to fill out his frame the next couple of years with NFL strength and conditioning coaches - it's going to be fun to watch.

    With rookie QBs, I see no value in jumping to conclusions on a guy's very first outing. Austin Davis looks like a waste of time.

    I'm not as worried about RT as I am with Center right now. If worse comes to worse, Greco can probably make the move to Center while Pasztor has experience playing OG. Between Bailey, Coleman and Drango we should be able to find a suitable/decent neighbor for Pasztor on the right side.

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    Austin Davis checked down everything. i know his WR core wasn't 1st team but jeebus dude take a shot. your career is at stake here.

    @calfoxwc said:

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    really? i saw a lot of them. many were high or off.

    was surprised to see Bobby Griff in the shotgun so much though. really surprised, and i didn't like it.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    i disagree they struggled everywhere and thought for a team still finding itself they looked better than expected. they didn't implode so much as just need a lot of polishing. i'm being nice but at least it certainly wasn't a clusterfuck.

    agree with pretty much all the rest and liked your assessment otherwise.

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    Austin Davis checked down everything. i know his WR core wasn't 1st team but jeebus dude take a shot. your career is at stake here.

    really? i saw a lot of them. many were high or off.

    was surprised to see Bobby Griff in the shotgun so much though. really surprised, and i didn't like it.

    Agreed! I never understood the enthusiasm behind signing this guy last year. He was jobless because he couldn't make the St Louis Rams?

    It seems like every time we add a QB with a bionic arm, they're illiterate at reading defenses.

  • @sisky-fringo said:

    i disagree they struggled everywhere and thought for a team still finding itself they looked better than expected. they didn't implode so much as just need a lot of polishing. i'm being nice but at least it certainly wasn't a clusterfuck.

    agree with pretty much all the rest and liked your assessment otherwise.

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    Austin Davis checked down everything. i know his WR core wasn't 1st team but jeebus dude take a shot. your career is at stake here.

    really? i saw a lot of them. many were high or off.

    was surprised to see Bobby Griff in the shotgun so much though. really surprised, and i didn't like it.

    Agreed! I never understood the enthusiasm behind signing this guy last year. He was jobless because he couldn't make the St Louis Rams?

    It seems like every time we add a QB with a bionic arm, they're illiterate at reading defenses.

    @flugel said:

    Agreed! I never understood the enthusiasm behind signing this guy last year. He was jobless because he couldn't make the St Louis Rams?

    It seems like every time we add a QB with a bionic arm, they're illiterate at reading defenses.

    Not sure I remember too much enthusiasm.....(probably some from a few wearing their rose colored glasses).....my memory was more about his contract and the ensuing the WTF???? comments.....

    Of course, with Manziel as the back-up, I completely understand "why" the team felt a need to get someone.....anyone.....that might step in to finish the season if McC got hurt....

  • @flugel said:

    Agreed! I never understood the enthusiasm behind signing this guy last year. He was jobless because he couldn't make the St Louis Rams?

    It seems like every time we add a QB with a bionic arm, they're illiterate at reading defenses.

    Not sure I remember too much enthusiasm.....(probably some from a few wearing their rose colored glasses).....my memory was more about his contract and the ensuing the WTF???? comments.....

    Of course, with Manziel as the back-up, I completely understand "why" the team felt a need to get someone.....anyone.....that might step in to finish the season if McC got hurt....

    @mudfly said:

    Not sure I remember too much enthusiasm.....(probably some from a few wearing their rose colored glasses).....my memory was more about his contract and the ensuing the WTF???? comments.....

    Exactly! The enthusiasm wasn't from us fans but the part I bolded from you above.

  • Goff is going to be good 😕

    @bbedward said:

    Goff is going to be good 😕

    Yes he will be and so will wentz. Prob is neither team did anything to add protection for their investment....

    Sorta like what the browns did with couch.

  • @bbedward said:

    Goff is going to be good 😕

    Yes he will be and so will wentz. Prob is neither team did anything to add protection for their investment....

    Sorta like what the browns did with couch.

    @miktoxic said:

    Sorta like what the browns did with couch.

    And RGIII / McC...?

    Both injury prone and playing behind a depleted line....but hey, we have 12 receivers, so were good.....