Game 1 -Good, bad & ugly
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He reminds me of McQuistan only we blew a first round pick on him.
good points flug & we did blow a Shane Ray pick or ? on Erving.(McQ. nice) But when JT reports first that Pasztor will start at RT & continues to work with S. Coleman at practice imo JT is setting up Greco to C, Pasztor G & S. Coleman RT. If these coaches are what we think they are as we see it, Erving can't be fooling any of them on game play
good points flug & we did blow a Shane Ray pick or ? on Erving.(McQ. nice) But when JT reports first that Pasztor will start at RT & continues to work with S. Coleman at practice imo JT is setting up Greco to C, Pasztor G & S. Coleman RT. If these coaches are what we think they are as we see it, Erving can't be fooling any of them on game play
Thanks Gumby! You bring up some valid points.
My dime store take: it's still early enough to where a good Offensive Line Coach like Hal Hunter can find solutions in house.
I know there's a reluctance to start inexperience so moving a guy like Greco to Center (whom I told has taken some reps at Center in some practices) is already beyond the subconscious thought process of our staff. We may have to kick Pasztor inside to Greco's spot or continue on with Pasztor at RT and let the bigger and more compact girths of Bailey and others battle it out to see who faces the power house frames at DT.
Is something wrong with my speel checker? It says made in Pittsburgh...
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Your feedback in CAPS.. nothing in mud with you around
Id keep Alexander inside.....and Scooby too......yes, he's a step slower, but his instincts will prove to be good enough to make up that step.....they should keep Scooby long enough to see what develops.....too bad Carder had a decent game.....
Lets be honest....everyone says Cams natural position is center?.....yet, he only played 5 games there in college.....and it looks like it....
To me...Scooby looked better than Schobert.....1 game, I know.....
And, yes....Mostert looked pretty good running the ball....handing it to him seems to be the ticket....
Kruger.....yes, I know Im hard on him.....but thats because he deserves it....
Id keep Alexander inside.....and Scooby too......yes, he's a step slower, but his instincts will prove to be good enough to make up that step.....they should keep Scooby long enough to see what develops.....too bad Carder had a decent game.....
Lets be honest....everyone says Cams natural position is center?.....yet, he only played 5 games there in college.....and it looks like it....
To me...Scooby looked better than Schobert.....1 game, I know.....
And, yes....Mostert looked pretty good running the ball....handing it to him seems to be the ticket....
Kruger.....yes, I know Im hard on him.....but thats because he deserves it....
agree on Tank Carder lol, he did stand out. same w #52 Justin Tuggle. still unimpressed with Poyer. just seems average at best to me. i can't write off Marlon Moore yet. i believe he tightroped the line and tipped the ball to Ricardo Louis to down the ball at the 1. he also missed the kicker, unlike Schobert. he's solid depth. anyone know where Bademosi went?
agree on Cam. lol
in fairness to Scoob i didn't key in on him like i did Schobert. i was watching the line mostly not the ILBers so i will defer to you. i wanna see them both do well though. productive homegrown players are nearly irresistible fan faves. after the draft i was immediately hoping those two become that.
i hope that was Mozart's NFL audition and not our future. i'm not really a fan, and i'm hoping we have a better option with Watson.
totally agree on Kruger. it's deserving, and that is what sucks. because every single one of us would love to see him all world. hell Barky Ming had a better game than Kreug.
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
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I'll tack on some things...
The Good: Connor Hamlet might be a viable target, and I like it. Not much else I can think of that wasn't mentioned. I like how Kessler threw that TD to Higgins, but the safety just seems to wipe out so much.
yes Hamlett's physical tools are exciting on paper. so far so good.
Kessler will beat that blitz in time. the game is still really fast for him, and he has a lot on his mind when the LOS is at the 50, let alone inside the endzone. i'm not that concerned about that safety. in fact i'm kinda glad it happened. good opportunity to focus on what not to do. that situation doesn't always present itself every day and Cody will undoubtedly learn and grow from it.
yes Hamlett's physical tools are exciting on paper. so far so good.
Kessler will beat that blitz in time. the game is really fast, and he has a lot on his mind when the LOS is at the 50, let alone inside the endzone. i'm not that concerned about that safety. in fact i'm kinda glad it happened. good opportunity to focus on what not to do. that situation doesn't always present itself every day and Cody will undoubtedly learn and grow from it.
Good points! And again, if it was easy for rookie QBs to be all ready to rock by preseason game 1 - why would Jeff Fisher be announcing before the preseason opener, Case Keenum (not to be confused with the next Brett Favre) gives us our best chance to win so he is our starter? Over in Philly, I kept reading and hearing about a need to possibly red shirt Carson Wentz almost right up to their preseason opener.
I'm not saying this to insult either guy especially since I liked both guys pre-draft while I considered it a head scratcher where we took Kessler. That said, I don't think a first appearance in August is an accurate projection of the career to follow.
It seems like our staff/front office put a lot of time and study into Kessler. If you look at the guy in here who saw him the most throughout college (D-Bone - who shares a lot of good wisdom and insight in here) - our QB Coach, Head Coach and FO guys in charge of drafting the rookie QB of their choice pretty much share the same opinion of this guy as D-Bone. The only time the poor kid had good field position - he threw a TD pass on the very first play. He took 2 Safeties looking exactly like a rookie in his first preseason games behind a bunch of blockers that won't make the team throwing to a bunch of WRs that won't either.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Yesterday.....Dak Prescott made the Kessler pick look even worse.....just saying....
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
Accurate synopsis! If he becomes Brandon Weeden that never learned something as easy as he could throw the ball away outside of the pocket 2 years into things - then we can we all agree it's a lost cause like Weeden was.
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Yesterday.....Dak Prescott made the Kessler pick look even worse.....just saying....
Someone else wrote this about how Prescott looked up against the #1 overall pick in the draft:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-preseason-blitz-jared-goff-upstaged-by-dak-prescott-031144951.html
I'm sure Troy Aikman remembers how many Uncle Jethros in the Dallas fan base preferred Steve Walsh to him when the surroundings and offensive line up front were brutal before the position became fair in his 3rd NFL season. Steve Young could also weigh in on how playing QB as a rookie in Tampa was nothing like the paradise of setup he showed up to in SF. If Drew Brees didn't QB SD for about 12 games (with numbers less than people complained out with Colt McCoy) toward the worst record in football - would they have had to burn their first overall pick on a QB the very next draft? If hotshot rookie QB didn't hold out all of training camp - Brees might not have ever had the chance to be a 12-4 QB heading to the Pro Bowl.
Rookie QBs go to different situations impacting how quickly they emerge. We won 3 games last year and the team that earned the right to draft ahead of us (TN) gave up a league high 54 sacks.
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agree and disagree Mud. some good points, as usual. BUT Gilbert wasn't impressive to me, he totally whiffed early and ate grass while their receiver got a little chunk of yards, maybe even a first down from it.
Yeah...I cant say he was impressive.....just didnt suck.....and was starting for a reason(cause Hue see's him everyday)....
i can't remember. after that i focused elsewhere...like the oline. and Cam at center still makes me nervous.
Yep....Cam scares me......gonna get someone(or 2) killed.....
on specials i liked Schobert's play, good hustle and personally didn't think he appeared slow on D, considering. he got sweet penetration on that sack assist and showed good tackling too.
In fairness, I didnt focus much on Schobert....he drew my attention by getting owned on a play and, not knowing who it was, I looked up the number to see who it was that just got smooshed.....then I watched him a little closer and just wasnt impressed.....but, yeah, he made a good play....
Scooby was the one that looked lost to me.
Really?.....I didnt see that.....but I admit I give him a little more slack because of lower expectations.....
Shelton looked worst of all though. the first 6/10 plays or so keying in on him he gets driven out of the play repeatedly. i am not familiar with the scheme or his specific assignment on every play but i was hoping for a little more Casey Hampton and a little less Big Baby. as in playing the nose, not 4-3 DT.
Yep.....Danny is not living up to the hype.....nice, likable guy....but.....
In fairness, I didnt focus much on Schobert....
in fairness to Scoob i didn't key in on him like i did Schobert. i was watching the line mostly not the ILBers so i will defer to you.
that's pretty amusing. i promise i didn't read your post when i responded lol
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
agree on all points. allow me to go out on a limb here: i know most Head Coaches claim winning preseason games is important but is it possible Hue doesn't really care about winning the game as much as situational football? focusing on things he wants to work on as opposed to calling plays super relevant to a preseason game? because it seemed random to me. if winning against GB could be "winning the battle not the war", perhaps Hue is focused on the war not the battle? that's the best i've got to try to make sense of it. that he was just running stuff to find out who they are cuz he still doesn't know yet. which is only scary if your hopes are high and unrealistic i guess.
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
agree on all points. allow me to go out on a limb here: i know most Head Coaches claim winning preseason games is important but is it possible Hue doesn't really care about winning the game as much as situational football? focusing on things he wants to work on as opposed to calling plays super relevant to a preseason game? because it seemed random to me. if winning against GB could be "winning the battle not the war", perhaps Hue is focused on the war not the battle? that's the best i've got to try to make sense of it. that he was just running stuff to find out who they are cuz he still doesn't know yet. which is only scary if your hopes are high and unrealistic i guess.
which is only scary if your hopes are high and unrealistic i guess.
Then put me down as horrified.
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yes Hamlett's physical tools are exciting on paper. so far so good.
Kessler will beat that blitz in time. the game is really fast, and he has a lot on his mind when the LOS is at the 50, let alone inside the endzone. i'm not that concerned about that safety. in fact i'm kinda glad it happened. good opportunity to focus on what not to do. that situation doesn't always present itself every day and Cody will undoubtedly learn and grow from it.
Good points! And again, if it was easy for rookie QBs to be all ready to rock by preseason game 1 - why would Jeff Fisher be announcing before the preseason opener, Case Keenum (not to be confused with the next Brett Favre) gives us our best chance to win so he is our starter? Over in Philly, I kept reading and hearing about a need to possibly red shirt Carson Wentz almost right up to their preseason opener.
I'm not saying this to insult either guy especially since I liked both guys pre-draft while I considered it a head scratcher where we took Kessler. That said, I don't think a first appearance in August is an accurate projection of the career to follow.
It seems like our staff/front office put a lot of time and study into Kessler. If you look at the guy in here who saw him the most throughout college (D-Bone - who shares a lot of good wisdom and insight in here) - our QB Coach, Head Coach and FO guys in charge of drafting the rookie QB of their choice pretty much share the same opinion of this guy as D-Bone. The only time the poor kid had good field position - he threw a TD pass on the very first play. He took 2 Safeties looking exactly like a rookie in his first preseason games behind a bunch of blockers that won't make the team throwing to a bunch of WRs that won't either.
Good points! And again, if it was easy for rookie QBs to be all ready to rock by preseason game 1 - why would Jeff Fisher be announcing before the preseason opener, Case Keenum (not to be confused with the next Brett Favre) gives us our best chance to win so he is our starter? Over in Philly, I kept reading and hearing about a need to possibly red shirt Carson Wentz almost right up to their preseason opener.
I'm not saying this to insult either guy especially since I liked both guys pre-draft while I considered it a head scratcher where we took Kessler. That said, I don't think a first appearance in August is an accurate projection of the career to follow.
It seems like our staff/front office put a lot of time and study into Kessler. If you look at the guy in here who saw him the most throughout college (D-Bone - who shares a lot of good wisdom and insight in here) - our QB Coach, Head Coach and FO guys in charge of drafting the rookie QB of their choice pretty much share the same opinion of this guy as D-Bone. The only time the poor kid had good field position - he threw a TD pass on the very first play. He took 2 Safeties looking exactly like a rookie in his first preseason games behind a bunch of blockers that won't make the team throwing to a bunch of WRs that won't either.
good points as well, and by all. gumby too. one thing we learned is that Barrelchest Kessler can take a hit. not only did he show great ball security, he got up immediately still holding the rock like it was glued to his jersey. in fact i think he was still standing there holding it 15 minutes later while the green bay defender was getting the concussion pen test. gotta love durability and toughness.
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which is only scary if your hopes are high and unrealistic i guess.
Then put me down as horrified.
Then put me down as horrified.
then you might wanna lower your hopes to two games and order a bourbon a shot and a brewski.
if you can't have a good time watching a team lose then how have you made it this far? lol
for this year you can pretend the Browns are a cross-eyed fat son at a swim meet who is guaranteed a participation award, and just be proud he didn't put his trunks on backwards. when the bar is that low everything bad is hilarious and everything good is unexpected and cheery. easier said than done i know.
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
agree on all points. allow me to go out on a limb here: i know most Head Coaches claim winning preseason games is important but is it possible Hue doesn't really care about winning the game as much as situational football? focusing on things he wants to work on as opposed to calling plays super relevant to a preseason game? because it seemed random to me. if winning against GB could be "winning the battle not the war", perhaps Hue is focused on the war not the battle? that's the best i've got to try to make sense of it. that he was just running stuff to find out who they are cuz he still doesn't know yet. which is only scary if your hopes are high and unrealistic i guess.
agree on all points. allow me to go out on a limb here: i know most Head Coaches claim winning preseason games is important but is it possible Hue doesn't really care about winning the game as much as situational football?
Sure....Im certain winning wasnt priority one...like you said....situational and the priority is to see all the players(which puts you at risk of losing)....
3 bone headed plays cost the game....Mosert fumble = 3pts.....and Kesslers safeties = 4pts....
1 caught punt and 2 incomplete passes and we woulda won....HA!
gotta love durability and toughness.
Those QB's gonna need that this year....
Then put me down as horrified.
Noted. At least you're prepared now.
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The Good. RG3. If it wasn't for Barnage running the route wrong...TD
The Bad. Third stringers oh my goodness.
The Ugly. The Packers. They didn't look good to me.
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Damn Hall got his pink slip already with a broken leg
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The problem I had with Kessler wasnt the first safety....it was the second......how often do you allow 2 safeties in a game, let alone in the same quarter.....????....has it ever happened???....that is some very very bad play....on the QB, coach AND o-line
So....Kessler really kind of sucked in that respect....awareness.....should have thrown it away.....
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
Yeah, I don't think those play calls were all that smart. The 3rd string OL sucks and you're going to have your 3rd string 3rd round pick QB try to throw it with a deep drop from the 1? He was put in position to fail.
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And some very questionable play calls(Hue).....why put Kessler in that position?.....(twice)....
Rookie QB with a 3rd string line shouldnt be throwing out of the end zone....just run the damn ball or have a plan to dump it fast.....or.... take 2 safeties in 5 minutes.....ugh
Yeah, I don't think those play calls were all that smart. The 3rd string OL sucks and you're going to have your 3rd string 3rd round pick QB try to throw it with a deep drop from the 1? He was put in position to fail.
Yeah, I don't think those play calls were all that smart. The 3rd string OL sucks and you're going to have your 3rd string 3rd round pick QB try to throw it with a deep drop from the 1? He was put in position to fail.
had he not stepped out and got the ball off it was going for a TD WR broke free
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Yeah, I don't think those play calls were all that smart. The 3rd string OL sucks and you're going to have your 3rd string 3rd round pick QB try to throw it with a deep drop from the 1? He was put in position to fail.
had he not stepped out and got the ball off it was going for a TD WR broke free
had he not stepped out and got the ball off it was going for a TD WR broke free
Perhaps. But from the one the D blitzes hard (it's an offensive play for the defense)...and his OL guys were pretty bad.
A bad combination.
I don't think Cody can use this as an excuse but the end zone WAS striped kinda' weird. Two thin stripes instead of the big fat one which is the norm.
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I don't think Cody can use this as an excuse but the end zone WAS striped kinda' weird. Two thin stripes instead of the big fat one which is the norm.
You are hilarious!
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