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***Official Browns @ Packers Preseason Game Night Thread***

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  • @miktoxic said:

    Sorta like what the browns did with couch.

    And RGIII / McC...?

    Both injury prone and playing behind a depleted line....but hey, we have 12 receivers, so were good.....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #88

    @mudfly said:

    And RGIII / McC...?

    Both injury prone and playing behind a depleted line....but hey, we have 12 receivers, so were good.....

    Drango doesn't have a crappy resume coming out of college. Pasztor pleasantly surprised some of us in 2015. Coleman might be a little raw right now but I wouldn't mind seeing them trail and error how he would look at RG if Greco eventually goes to Center. Same with Drango for that matter. That gives us 2 rookies to compete with Alvin Bailey for the job which gives us 3 Big Uglies to compete for 1 spot. Plus, I know I'm missing someone.

    They always say never go grocery shopping when you're hungry because everything will look delicious. Welcome to the situation our new front office inherited for their first NFL draft. I liked what they did and how they setup our next draft volume beginning with where our first round pick from Philly sets us up for the next big draft volume and rookie QB class.

    When you go from Ray Farmer in the front office to Harvard Plural - it's almost impossible not to get excited...

  • @orion said:

    It looked to me as if the Browns struggled. Everywhere. But it's to be expected at this point. New regime, coaches, systems, players, etc.

    Saw a lot of Ogbah. Wanna see even more of him.

    Nassib made some good plays. The play right after his shoestring sack, the OLineman pushed him 8 yards downfield.

    Mozart was our leading rusher...by a long shot. - not quite sure what to make of him yet.

    I think our OL is going to be a problem (again). Center & RT especially. (Ladson can pack up and go home, thank you very much).

    Kessler had a rough outing. Yes he was 2 for 2 with a TD...but I'm quite sure he's feeling quite humble today. Of course it would've been better if he didn't have to have guys like Ladson blocking for him....but such is the life of a third stringer. He'll do better next time.

    Austin Davis is certainly the odd man out. He got his bell rung...next it'll be his ticket punched. He should've learned to slide in the offseason.

    Was good to see Pryor make a couple of key catches. And sad to see WR Hall get hurt and be lost for the year. He didn't look half bad.

    .......was pretty shaky...but I'm looking forward to the next game...

    i disagree they struggled everywhere and thought for a team still finding itself they looked better than expected. they didn't implode so much as just need a lot of polishing. i'm being nice but at least it certainly wasn't a clusterfuck.

    agree with pretty much all the rest and liked your assessment otherwise.

    @flugel said:

    Pretty accurate Orion. Mozart? Great job with that nickname.

    For a first NFL outing, it didn't take Nassib long to see some double teams. I've been looking forward to seeing how he'd respond to the transition to the next level. I was not disappointed. As he continues to fill out his frame the next couple of years with NFL strength and conditioning coaches - it's going to be fun to watch.

    With rookie QBs, I see no value in jumping to conclusions on a guy's very first outing. Austin Davis looks like a waste of time.

    I'm not as worried about RT as I am with Center right now. If worse comes to worse, Greco can probably make the move to Center while Pasztor has experience playing OG. Between Bailey, Coleman and Drango we should be able to find a suitable/decent neighbor for Pasztor on the right side.

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    Austin Davis checked down everything. i know his WR core wasn't 1st team but jeebus dude take a shot. your career is at stake here.

    @calfoxwc said:

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    really? i saw a lot of them. many were high or off.

    was surprised to see Bobby Griff in the shotgun so much though. really surprised, and i didn't like it.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @sisky-fringo said:

    agree as well and agree about Nassib needing more strength but loved his hustle, quickness, and awareness.

    We're all on the same page regarding his need to be eating while working in the weight room.

  • @flugel said:

    Thank you Sisky!

    If it wasn't for you - we would have had to wait for the tape delayed version on the NFL Channel The NFL Channel scrolled the final score at the bottom of the screen while the game was playing.

    you bet. don't you just hate spoilers?!? woulda killed it for ya, and trust this rewinding addict, i always fall behind in live games and my friends are notorious for texting results too early to me.

    please delete the evidence though, unlike a certain Doug it seems some people have more to lose than others.

    i usually PM them but it was the first game and just preseason. but still, if you would please kind sir. here's the post.

    also appears from your post, logic4squares' post, and tex's post that not everyone had those sites bookmarked.

    **passive aggressively clears throat**

    it's worth mentioning i tried about 10 links off reddit for HD streams and of those i tried they were ALL either bunk or laggy, i was pretty bummed. even through VLC. and the SD links were the same as the ones the sites i go with were using.

    also, 3 different streams i was watching were closed and/or shut down. 1 for quality/lag reasons, 1 for copywrite reasons, and one apparently just to make way for the cardinals game. it's good to have spares, i open about 15-20 tabs of them and cycle through em all, so i notice things like that. and at least with UFC, sometimes streams are still up and good but removed from the main page, so there's no way to find them again later.

    i was mostly just bustin doug's hump, i have a good friend that loves his jailbroken firestick as well and also raves about it...but it cost him $125. so if anyone knows where to get one cheaper i'd be in the market for it. my Kodi works fine but on the road a single stick would be pretty handy.

    A Adoug319 wrote on last edited by
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    @sisky-fringo said:

    you bet. don't you just hate spoilers?!? woulda killed it for ya, and trust this rewinding addict, i always fall behind in live games and my friends are notorious for texting results too early to me.

    please delete the evidence though, unlike a certain Doug it seems some people have more to lose than others.

    i usually PM them but it was the first game and just preseason. but still, if you would please kind sir. here's the post.

    also appears from your post, logic4squares' post, and tex's post that not everyone had those sites bookmarked.

    **passive aggressively clears throat**

    it's worth mentioning i tried about 10 links off reddit for HD streams and of those i tried they were ALL either bunk or laggy, i was pretty bummed. even through VLC. and the SD links were the same as the ones the sites i go with were using.

    also, 3 different streams i was watching were closed and/or shut down. 1 for quality/lag reasons, 1 for copywrite reasons, and one apparently just to make way for the cardinals game. it's good to have spares, i open about 15-20 tabs of them and cycle through em all, so i notice things like that. and at least with UFC, sometimes streams are still up and good but removed from the main page, so there's no way to find them again later.

    i was mostly just bustin doug's hump, i have a good friend that loves his jailbroken firestick as well and also raves about it...but it cost him $125. so if anyone knows where to get one cheaper i'd be in the market for it. my Kodi works fine but on the road a single stick would be pretty handy.

    PM me

  • @mudfly said:

    And RGIII / McC...?

    Both injury prone and playing behind a depleted line....but hey, we have 12 receivers, so were good.....

    Drango doesn't have a crappy resume coming out of college. Pasztor pleasantly surprised some of us in 2015. Coleman might be a little raw right now but I wouldn't mind seeing them trail and error how he would look at RG if Greco eventually goes to Center. Same with Drango for that matter. That gives us 2 rookies to compete with Alvin Bailey for the job which gives us 3 Big Uglies to compete for 1 spot. Plus, I know I'm missing someone.

    They always say never go grocery shopping when you're hungry because everything will look delicious. Welcome to the situation our new front office inherited for their first NFL draft. I liked what they did and how they setup our next draft volume beginning with where our first round pick from Philly sets us up for the next big draft volume and rookie QB class.

    When you go from Ray Farmer in the front office to Harvard Plural - it's almost impossible not to get excited...

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #91

    @flugel said:

    Drango doesn't have a crappy resume coming out of college. Pasztor pleasantly surprised some of us in 2015. Coleman might be a little raw right now but I wouldn't mind seeing them trail and error how he would look at RG if Greco eventually goes to Center. Same with Drango for that matter. That gives us 2 rookies to compete with Alvin Bailey for the job which gives us 3 Big Uglies to compete for 1 spot. Plus, I know I'm missing someone.

    They always say never go grocery shopping when you're hungry because everything will look delicious. Welcome to the situation our new front office inherited for their first NFL draft. I liked what they did and how they setup our next draft volume beginning with where our first round pick from Philly sets us up for the next big draft volume and rookie QB class.

    When you go from Ray Farmer in the front office to Harvard Plural - it's almost impossible not to get excited...

    Unfortunately flugs this org doesn't believe in drafting franchise qbs unless they are 6' or under and play for some overrated school and conference while trading down and getting another pick to draft some unknown 3rd string rb or db.

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #92

    the line is ok.. My biggest concern is that Cam Erving is dumber than a bag of rocks...

  • The offensive line play - new coaches, new systems, it's the first preseason,

    I'm delighted they played so well.

    Ya have to fully expect these miscommunications, etc. But then again, you have

    to figure they will fix those before the next game for the most part...?

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    A lot has to do with timing, and in a "game" situation, that is a lot different

    than just training camp. If players can't fix things, they aren't on the active

    roster.

    Again, I saw upbeat, confident, aggressive play - more of what I saw in practice.

    I'm fairly confident the mistakes will be fixed overall by the third practice game.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    Laughed so hard I hacked up the last remnants of a Napa Valley respiratory infection...

    Thanks, Dr. Cal!

  • @calfoxwc said:

    On the upside, I didn't see one bad snap from center, so there's that...

    Laughed so hard I hacked up the last remnants of a Napa Valley respiratory infection...

    Thanks, Dr. Cal!

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #94

    @tour2ma said:

    Laughed so hard I hacked up the last remnants of a Napa Valley respiratory infection...

    Thanks, Dr. Cal!

    Me ojos ain't too good but I don't think that first snap was a Mulligan.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
    #95

    Finally seeing the replay now and I'm only midway through the 2nd, but both teams are pretty sloppy to this point......... it almost looks like the 1st pre-season game for both teams. 😉

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #96

    Quick thought - on defense we played the most traditional vanilla 34 you can imagine. A classic zero nose, two 4techs and asked them to 2 gap quite a bit. I'm not in love with our Ends when asked that type of assignment. I do like that the Pack went with some stretch plays. To me its a combination of recognize where our defensive strength lies and that Danny (when not forgetting to keep square flowing down the line) had some decent moments the other night.

    I'm still not a fan of routinely asking him to 2 gap heads up.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #97

    Well, when you know football as well as I do, you just use your intuitiveness and understanding

    of the game, to accurately guess when a snap is going to be a bad one, and you close your eyes.

    It takes years of practice ,you guys will get it eventually......