Soros gets hacked
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I would love to read those docs. he's another ultra rich dirtbag.
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Someday someone will still have to explain to me what Israel has ever done for us...
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Friends with Benefits: Why the U.S.-Israeli Alliance Is Good for America
Benefits of US aid to Israel exceed cost
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Benefits-of-US-aid-to-Israel-exceed-cost
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The coming US veto of a UN Security Council measure on Palestinian statehood this week raises the question, once again, of why the United States needs to stick its neck out to help Israel. Many forget that America’s pro-Israel policy advances vital practical and strategic goals.
The United States has always looked to Israel as a monument of democracy and stability in a region where’s there’s been little of either; uncertainties in the wake of the Arab Spring only add to that value.
Even the fiercest critics of our pro-Israel policy concede that we get invaluable intelligence from its matchless espionage service, the Mossad. Israelis know more about fighting terrorism than anyone else and have top human-intelligence sources in every country in the Middle East — something our CIA only dreams about. Since 9/11, the Israelis have not only helped us detect and run down networks like al Qaeda but also kept us intimately informed of the spreading nuclear-arms race in the Muslim world.
But what many Americans don’t appreciate is how the 150,000 active-duty and half-million reservists of the Israeli military have been our frontline of defense in conflicts in the past — and will be the tripwire for threats in the future.
Israel pioneered the hostage-rescue mission with its daring raid at Entebbe Airport in 1976. It pioneered the use of unmanned drones to knock out Soviet-built anti-aircraft systems in the ’80s and showed how to use our TOW guided munitions to smash massed Soviet tank attacks. When Israeli jets took out Saddam Hussein’s nuclear-weapons program in 1981 and did the same to Syria’s budding nuclear facilities in 2007, they not only bought Israel time against gathering threats but also the rest of the world.
When Iran reaches its nuclear tipping point, the Israeli air force may have to do a repeat performance, at considerable cost in pilots’ lives and international outrage — and again saving Washington from having to confront a dangerous strategic challenge.
All in all, that’s a pretty fair return on a $2.5 billion annual investment, in contrast to the billions we’ve poured out to such far less helpful countries as Egypt or Pakistan — not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan.
Still, the value of the Israeli military to American interests goes deeper. Its joint ventures with the US military have been essential in developing such high-tech weaponry as missiles, drones and Tactical High Energy Laser systems. Israel’s defense industry excels in the kind of innovation, creativity and efficient just-in-time delivery that’s too often missing from our own megadefense contractors and keeps both them and us on the leading edge of military technologies.
Just as our Patriot batteries protected Israel during the first Gulf War, so may Israel’s new tested “Iron Dome” anti-missile system be the shield that protects American cities from rogue-nation and terrorist missile threats in the future.
By the way, that innovation and creativity go far beyond the defense industry. Israel’s growth rate consistently outperforms bigger developed nations; its per-capita capital investment is 2.5 times bigger than America’s — and 80 times China’s.
Israel is now the Start-Up Nation, a major crucible of innovative companies and breakthrough industries, from microchip design to medical technology to software and network algorithms. Israeli companies supply Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Cisco and others with key technology.
So who needs Israel? We do. Our military and defense industries and even our biggest high-tech companies all depend on a strong and independent Israel.
The forces of darkness are gathering, both in the United Nations and the Middle East. If we abandon Israel now, it would be worse than a crime. To paraphrase the French diplomat Talleyrand, it’d be our worst national blunder since Vietnam.
Arthur Herman is an American Enterprise Institute visiting scholar.
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Damn... that Duck geezer writes well, cal... Oh wait it's a Ruppert's Post editorial.
So we need then to buy our weapons and give us intel...
Meanwhile OBF gives me a Jerusalem Post Op-Ed and a 2012 article by a group that specializes in West Asia affairs, AKA the Near East??? The latter could have been aimed at muting Netanyahu's fruitless forray into our politics in an election year? At least it mentioned the '73 oil embargo.
Anything else to offset their spying on us and stealing the technology for nuclear weapons?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I see Israel as a welfare queen. They make more than enough money to exist without U.S. aid. We can be their ally without having to be their sugar daddy.
As it stands, we just keep borrowing. Why run up the credit cards some more to buy your distant cousin a new TV?
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Damn... that Duck geezer writes well, cal... Oh wait it's a Ruppert's Post editorial.
So we need then to buy our weapons and give us intel...
Meanwhile OBF gives me a Jerusalem Post Op-Ed and a 2012 article by a group that specializes in West Asia affairs, AKA the Near East??? The latter could have been aimed at muting Netanyahu's fruitless forray into our politics in an election year? At least it mentioned the '73 oil embargo.
Anything else to offset their spying on us and stealing the technology for nuclear weapons?
Damn... that Duck geezer writes well, cal... Oh wait it's a Ruppert's Post editorial.
So we need then to buy our weapons and give us intel...
Meanwhile OBF gives me a Jerusalem Post Op-Ed and a 2012 article by a group that specializes in West Asia affairs, AKA the Near East??? The latter could have been aimed at muting Netanyahu's fruitless forray into our politics in an election year? At least it mentioned the '73 oil embargo.
Anything else to offset their spying on us and stealing the technology for nuclear weapons
U.S. Aid to Israel: Why It's a Must The critical results the $3 billion a year achieves.
Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State Gen. Alexander Haig (deceased) described Israel as "the largest US aircraft carrier, which does not require even one US soldier, cannot be sunk, is the most cost-effective and battle-tested, located in a region which is critical to vital US interests. If there would not be an Israel, the US would have to deploy real aircraft carriers, along with tens of thousands of US soldiers, which would cost tens of billions of dollars annually, dragging the US unnecessarily into local, regional and global conflicts."[6]
In short, support for Israel has been a very profitable investment for the USA. Israel is an ideal ally for America in the Middle East. Haifa is one of the safest and most hospitable ports for the 6th Fleet, a dependable base for pre-positioning emergency military stores for deployment in neighboring countries, and a base for close-by sophisticated medical services.
In contrast, the problems the United States faces in the Persian Gulf today stem from the fact that it does not have an Israel equivalent there. Absent a strong, loyal, and dependable ally in the region, the United States has had to deploy, redeploy, and redeploy again, at a cost that easily exceeds a trillion dollars. Repeated U.S. administrations came to power predisposed to associate with the Arab world and to disassociate from Israel; but in the end, most came to acknowledge the worth of Israel as a steadfast ally in a volatile region. From Lyndon Johnson on, most have come to see that US support for Israel has been the most cost-effective national security investment for America since World War II and the Marshal Plan.
In sum, Israel’s enemies are America’s enemies. Israel fights the same Islamo-fascist terrorism that brought down our World Trade Center, blew up a large chunk of the Pentagon, killed more than 3,000 innocent American civilians, and cost our economy as yet unascertained billions of dollars. Israeli-American strategic cooperation is not a given, it is not automatic, it is not a knee-jerk reaction to shared values, and it is not a panacea; but without it the world would be a much more dangerous place. Israel helps keep America safe.
At $3 billion a year, that’s an incredible bargain.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/107007/us-aid-israel-why-its-must-david-meir-levi
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Damn... that Duck geezer writes well, cal... Oh wait it's a Ruppert's Post editorial.
So we need then to buy our weapons and give us intel...
Meanwhile OBF gives me a Jerusalem Post Op-Ed and a 2012 article by a group that specializes in West Asia affairs, AKA the Near East??? The latter could have been aimed at muting Netanyahu's fruitless forray into our politics in an election year? At least it mentioned the '73 oil embargo.
Anything else to offset their spying on us and stealing the technology for nuclear weapons
U.S. Aid to Israel: Why It's a Must The critical results the $3 billion a year achieves.
Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State Gen. Alexander Haig (deceased) described Israel as "the largest US aircraft carrier, which does not require even one US soldier, cannot be sunk, is the most cost-effective and battle-tested, located in a region which is critical to vital US interests. If there would not be an Israel, the US would have to deploy real aircraft carriers, along with tens of thousands of US soldiers, which would cost tens of billions of dollars annually, dragging the US unnecessarily into local, regional and global conflicts."[6]
In short, support for Israel has been a very profitable investment for the USA. Israel is an ideal ally for America in the Middle East. Haifa is one of the safest and most hospitable ports for the 6th Fleet, a dependable base for pre-positioning emergency military stores for deployment in neighboring countries, and a base for close-by sophisticated medical services.
In contrast, the problems the United States faces in the Persian Gulf today stem from the fact that it does not have an Israel equivalent there. Absent a strong, loyal, and dependable ally in the region, the United States has had to deploy, redeploy, and redeploy again, at a cost that easily exceeds a trillion dollars. Repeated U.S. administrations came to power predisposed to associate with the Arab world and to disassociate from Israel; but in the end, most came to acknowledge the worth of Israel as a steadfast ally in a volatile region. From Lyndon Johnson on, most have come to see that US support for Israel has been the most cost-effective national security investment for America since World War II and the Marshal Plan.
In sum, Israel’s enemies are America’s enemies. Israel fights the same Islamo-fascist terrorism that brought down our World Trade Center, blew up a large chunk of the Pentagon, killed more than 3,000 innocent American civilians, and cost our economy as yet unascertained billions of dollars. Israeli-American strategic cooperation is not a given, it is not automatic, it is not a knee-jerk reaction to shared values, and it is not a panacea; but without it the world would be a much more dangerous place. Israel helps keep America safe.
At $3 billion a year, that’s an incredible bargain.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/107007/us-aid-israel-why-its-must-david-meir-levi
Just thought I'd highlight why Tour should quit dancing around the truth on issues. He questioned what
Israel has ever done for us..... then danced around having to admit his question got an emphatic answer..
one that he didn't like. but it's true.
U.S. Aid to Israel: Why It's a Must The critical results the $3 billion a year achieves.
Former Supreme Commander of NATO and U.S. Secretary of State Gen. Alexander Haig (deceased) described Israel as "the largest US aircraft carrier, which does not require even one US soldier, cannot be sunk, is the most cost-effective and battle-tested, located in a region which is critical to vital US interests. If there would not be an Israel, the US would have to deploy real aircraft carriers, along with tens of thousands of US soldiers, which would cost tens of billions of dollars annually, dragging the US unnecessarily into local, regional and global conflicts."[6]
In short, support for Israel has been a very profitable investment for the USA. Israel is an ideal ally for America in the Middle East. Haifa is one of the safest and most hospitable ports for the 6th Fleet, a dependable base for pre-positioning emergency military stores for deployment in neighboring countries, and a base for close-by sophisticated medical services.
In contrast, the problems the United States faces in the Persian Gulf today stem from the fact that it does not have an Israel equivalent there. Absent a strong, loyal, and dependable ally in the region, the United States has had to deploy, redeploy, and redeploy again, at a cost that easily exceeds a trillion dollars. Repeated U.S. administrations came to power predisposed to associate with the Arab world and to disassociate from Israel; but in the end, most came to acknowledge the worth of Israel as a steadfast ally in a volatile region. From Lyndon Johnson on, most have come to see that US support for Israel has been the most cost-effective national security investment for America since World War II and the Marshal Plan.
In sum, Israel’s enemies are America’s enemies. Israel fights the same Islamo-fascist terrorism that brought down our World Trade Center, blew up a large chunk of the Pentagon, killed more than 3,000 innocent American civilians, and cost our economy as yet unascertained billions of dollars. Israeli-American strategic cooperation is not a given, it is not automatic, it is not a knee-jerk reaction to shared values, and it is not a panacea; but without it the world would be a much more dangerous place. Israel helps keep America safe.
At $3 billion a year, that’s an incredible bargain.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/107007/us-aid-israel-why-its-must-david-meir-levi
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/intell_coop.html
One of the most significant contributions Israel has made to U.S. security has been shared intelligence. The truth is the United States has little alternative but to depend on Israel for much of its Middle Eastern human intelligence because the CIA's capability has diminished.In post-revolutionary Iran, the CIA no longer had a presence and the CIA'sstation was virtually wiped out in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Beirut. The United States relies on theand other Israeli intelligence agencies for information about, radical Islamic movements, weapons proliferation and other Middle East-related events.For many years, Israel played a key role in assisting U.S. intelligence through the capture and transfer of Soviet weapons systems. For example, Israel supplied the United States with valuable intelligence about Soviet fighters and their avionics. This occurred as recently as 1989 after a Syrian pilot defected in an advanced model of a MIG-23 and American officials were allowed to examine the plane.UCLA professor Steven Spiegel also noted at least six changes adopted by the U.S. military that were prompted by Israeli combat experiences: 1) decreased use of searchlights; 2) increased use of thermal sights for night fighting; 3) greater use of tanks and armored personnel carriers (APCs) in tandem; 4) improvements in command, control, and communications; 5) use of electronic warfare in reconnaissance units; and 6) enhanced air-to-air missiles and electronic countermeasures. Several of these were used with great success in.US Diplomats reported in 2014 that Israel has been assisting in the fight against the Islamic State by providing the United States with intelligence information, including lists of Westerners who have joined ISIS. Israel has also provided vital intelligence in the form of drones flying over ISIS territory. This information is then used to carry out air strikes and plan coordinated attacks.A Russian passenger plane travelling from the Egyptian city of Sharm el-Sheikh to St Petersburg, Russia, went down over the Sinai Peninsula on October 31, 2015, killing all 224 passengers. After weeks of investigations it was determined that a bomb brought down the plane. U.S. and British intelligence services used information gathered from Israeli security sources during the investigation of the crash. Communications from terror groups in the area were intercepted by Israeli security and later given to U.S. and British investigators. -
Thanks, OBF...
I have a problem with the opening premise of this first article... namely:
At the most obvious level, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Democracies are an endangered species, so they can be expected to support one another and to have mutually beneficial relationships stronger than those between democracies and totalitarian states.
Chart ends in '09, but data at the site extends to 2012. Shows a sharp rise in Democracies since post WWII with acceleration at the demise of the USSR. Well is showing as a downloadable text file... here's the link...
https://ourworldindata.org/democratisation/
Graph is a page down and is interactive... Confession: I did have to google "Antocracies".
Further down is an interactive map of the world where the spread can be seen over time... even my colorblind eyes can pretty much make it out.
Anyway back to the article...
Again the intel sharing is most compelling, but common interest should dictate that.
As for their military... I'd maintain that is a bullet that will always remain in the chamber. Bush 43 had to beg them to do nothing during the first Gulf War despite Scud attacks knowing that if they got involved the region would react. Similarly Bush 45 did not include them in the 2003 "coalition". On balance I would say their military is more a source of concern for potential independent action than as comfort as a potential ally.
Interestingly Israel is about the only ally with which we have no signed defense treaty.
The 2011 article references future articles to deal with the others four questions it raised. Were all rolled into here or were they separate? Don't see links to later parts... so the former?
It did get into cost... and again made a case of cost avoidance because we can maintain a permanent base there. But the only base we have (at least "officially") is an Army radar installation manned by 120 soldiers. We do have Navy facilities in the port of Haifa.
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