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  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The 90's were neither 4, 6 nor 10 years ago.

    What else did we have when Hillis was here? When had every sure thing we've drafted actually performed?

    We have a QB and a WR who have PROVEN they can dominate at this level. When have we had that duo since the return?

    The closest thing we've had to an NFL QB who proved it on the big stage was when we signed a 50 year old Jake Delhomme.

    If you can't see the difference between the two, there's no hope for you. Then again...we already knew that.

    there is a difference, but let me know when it equals wins in the win column.

    different stars (laughing)

    different coaches (some)

    different FO

    the problem is in drafting. hell we all thought maasaquoi would eventually break through. same with mingo, gilbert and we all know the fiasco that was johnny football.

    love people's optimism, but until something actually really changes, put me down as underwhelmed.

    oh btw, i find it amazing that the only time you stick your head out of your cave is to either call someone old or to pound on your chest because something you championed looks good for the browns (a rookie DE in preseason). sure nassib looks good. given the rest of the bums playing that position he should be a starter game 2. but let's not forget all the bums you proclaimed great who are either in rehab or cashiering at the sack n suds. manziel wasn't it?

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    @miktoxic said:

    there is a difference, but let me know when it equals wins in the win column.

    different stars (laughing)

    different coaches (some)

    different FO

    the problem is in drafting. hell we all thought maasaquoi would eventually break through. same with mingo, gilbert and we all know the fiasco that was johnny football.

    love people's optimism, but until something actually really changes, put me down as underwhelmed.

    oh btw, i find it amazing that the only time you stick your head out of your cave is to either call someone old or to pound on your chest because something you championed looks good for the browns (a rookie DE in preseason). sure nassib looks good. given the rest of the bums playing that position he should be a starter game 2. but let's not forget all the bums you proclaimed great who are either in rehab or cashiering at the sack n suds. manziel wasn't it?

    Something has changed ... The Cavs, the Indians ... Maybe Hue is the change the Browns need.

    Two guys we have drafted look like the real deal for a change Coleman and Nassib ... That's a start. And I am only going by practice accounts on Coleman but everyone who has seen him live says he's electric. Refreshing change.

    I'm going with the optimists this year. Nothing better in sports than being young and promising ... We could be that for a change.

    Z

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #53

    well i'm glad at least 2 out of the 14 picks show something in practice and preseason. lol.

    hey if the browns double it and 4 players turn out to be on the squad in 3 years that's a whopping 29% return on their 2016 investment!!!

    WHOOPPEE!! breaking all kinds of records!

  • well i'm glad at least 2 out of the 14 picks show something in practice and preseason. lol.

    hey if the browns double it and 4 players turn out to be on the squad in 3 years that's a whopping 29% return on their 2016 investment!!!

    WHOOPPEE!! breaking all kinds of records!

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #54

    @miktoxic said:

    well i'm glad at least 2 out of the 14 picks show something in practice and preseason. lol.

    hey if the browns double it and 4 players turn out to be on the squad in 3 years that's a whopping 29% return on their 2016 investment!!!

    WHOOPPEE!! breaking all kinds of records!

    Well, I'm not saying all the rest are busts, Dickbreath, I'm just saying it's nice to have some rookies with a "buzz" for a change ... Other than Thomas and Haden we haven't too many "we nailed one" camps ... Let alone two or more.

    Join the fun. We can draft now and we have a real coach.

    Z

  • I've liked Carl (see, first name basis) since the day he was born........ I win.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #55

    Still constraining my enthusiasm here, but am seeing signs...

    @d-bone said:

    I've liked Carl (see, first name basis) since the day he was born........ I win.

    I looked at his tape after the draft and thought, "Kid has potential. This could turn out to be a pretty good pick."

    Color me last...

  • @miktoxic said:

    there is a difference, but let me know when it equals wins in the win column.

    different stars (laughing)

    different coaches (some)

    different FO

    the problem is in drafting. hell we all thought maasaquoi would eventually break through. same with mingo, gilbert and we all know the fiasco that was johnny football.

    love people's optimism, but until something actually really changes, put me down as underwhelmed.

    oh btw, i find it amazing that the only time you stick your head out of your cave is to either call someone old or to pound on your chest because something you championed looks good for the browns (a rookie DE in preseason). sure nassib looks good. given the rest of the bums playing that position he should be a starter game 2. but let's not forget all the bums you proclaimed great who are either in rehab or cashiering at the sack n suds. manziel wasn't it?

    Something has changed ... The Cavs, the Indians ... Maybe Hue is the change the Browns need.

    Two guys we have drafted look like the real deal for a change Coleman and Nassib ... That's a start. And I am only going by practice accounts on Coleman but everyone who has seen him live says he's electric. Refreshing change.

    I'm going with the optimists this year. Nothing better in sports than being young and promising ... We could be that for a change.

    Z

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #56

    Zombo said:

    Something has changed ... The Cavs, the Indians ... Maybe Hue is the change the Browns need.

    Two guys we have drafted look like the real deal for a change Coleman and Nassib ... That's a start. And I am only going by practice accounts on Coleman but everyone who has seen him live says he's electric. Refreshing change.

    I'm going with the optimists this year. Nothing better in sports than being young and promising ... We could be that for a change.

    Z

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Zombo said:

    Well, I'm not saying all the rest are busts, Dickbreath, I'm just saying it's nice to have some rookies with a "buzz" for a change ... Other than Thomas and Haden we haven't too many "we nailed one" camps ... Let alone two or more.

    Join the fun. We can draft now and we have a real coach.

    Z

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

  • Zombo said:

    Something has changed ... The Cavs, the Indians ... Maybe Hue is the change the Browns need.

    Two guys we have drafted look like the real deal for a change Coleman and Nassib ... That's a start. And I am only going by practice accounts on Coleman but everyone who has seen him live says he's electric. Refreshing change.

    I'm going with the optimists this year. Nothing better in sports than being young and promising ... We could be that for a change.

    Z

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Zombo said:

    Well, I'm not saying all the rest are busts, Dickbreath, I'm just saying it's nice to have some rookies with a "buzz" for a change ... Other than Thomas and Haden we haven't too many "we nailed one" camps ... Let alone two or more.

    Join the fun. We can draft now and we have a real coach.

    Z

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

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    #57

    @hoorta said:

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

  • @hoorta said:

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #58

    Zombo said:

    We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB.

    don't be late to the party.

    Z

    uh, what kind of party? a sausage party?

    let me guess: you had a party with cake and cock.... and you're all out of cake.

  • Zombo said:

    We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB.

    don't be late to the party.

    Z

    uh, what kind of party? a sausage party?

    let me guess: you had a party with cake and cock.... and you're all out of cake.

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    @miktoxic said:

    uh, what kind of party? a sausage party?

    let me guess: you had a party with cake and cock.... and you're all out of cake.

    It's cute to be the sarcastic hater of a team that always disappoints. But Ghoolie doesn't need a lapdog, you used to have real opinions, let's hear them...

    Our draft:

    Hue Jackson;

    Rg3:

    Z

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #60

    lol... all out of cake...

    That you will take the Browns Week 1 in Survivor is a given, Z... as is a spread beat in Pick 'Em.

    So the real question is the over/under for Browns on your League 1 Fantasy team...

    I'm setting the opening line at 3.5.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #61

    sure.

    our draft: as usual traded away a chance at a top 3 talent, prob a franchise QB of the future. great we have 14 picks like last years 12 which did absolutely friggin nothing but garnish more mid-level talent except maybe a couple of DL who still haven't pushed their way into top tier.

    hue jackson: great. an 8-8 HC. a QB guru OC who was on a team that never won a playoff game.

    RG3: like him. don't like his chances of staying healthy.

    biggest gripe is with the lack of star power. yeah haden and thomas.......my 2 faves. both are on the back end of their careers. so we have rg3 and a couple of rookies? all this for 26 picks in the last 2 years? in your QB thread cal suggests next year trading away one of our picks for jimmy garropolo......REALLY? why the fuck didn't we just draft him when we had the chance if he was your guy? that is backward thinking dude. you got the pick use it. trade down. trade down. there is next year to worry about. yeah? well what about this fucking year?

    and btw, i'm no ghoolie lapdog. i can think for myself. love the team. will root for them always. just do something spectacular one year and do it right in the draft. i'm sure coleman will be a burner. glad we thought WR this year, just like farmer thought DB overstock with multiple picks and maybe one will work out.

  • lol... all out of cake...

    That you will take the Browns Week 1 in Survivor is a given, Z... as is a spread beat in Pick 'Em.

    So the real question is the over/under for Browns on your League 1 Fantasy team...

    I'm setting the opening line at 3.5.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... all out of cake...

    That you will take the Browns Week 1 in Survivor is a given, Z... as is a spread beat in Pick 'Em.

    So the real question is the over/under for Browns on your League 1 Fantasy team...

    I'm setting the opening line at 3.5.

    I'll enjoy having dinner with you and Hoorta in Naples when we are 2-0.

    Take the under on 3.5, I hate our kickers ... But I'm drafting Barny, Gordon, Coleman, RG3 .. OK, take the over.

    Z

  • @hoorta said:

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #63

    Zombo said:

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    LOL! I love August. It's the same in Cleveland as it is in College Station. "This is the year!!"

    Until mid-way through the season the tune changes to, "Wait till next year!"

  • Zombo said:

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    LOL! I love August. It's the same in Cleveland as it is in College Station. "This is the year!!"

    Until mid-way through the season the tune changes to, "Wait till next year!"

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #64

    @texasag1969 said:

    LOL! I love August. It's the same in Cleveland as it is in College Station. "This is the year!!"

    Until mid-way through the season the tune changes to, "Wait till next year!"

    Whatever.College Station is minor leagues

    The Browns back on track is major news.

    Home of Paul Brown, Jim Brown, and Otto Graham. Cradle of pro football. Mecca of NFL. No one gives a shit whether Texas A&M goes 8-4 or 7-5.

    Z

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #65

    How much AC% they puttin in summer shandys nowadays?

  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #66

    I don't know, I'm drinking lagers and shots. Still don't have an opinion, fag? Maybe your girlfriend can beat one out of ya.

    Z

  • sure.

    our draft: as usual traded away a chance at a top 3 talent, prob a franchise QB of the future. great we have 14 picks like last years 12 which did absolutely friggin nothing but garnish more mid-level talent except maybe a couple of DL who still haven't pushed their way into top tier.

    hue jackson: great. an 8-8 HC. a QB guru OC who was on a team that never won a playoff game.

    RG3: like him. don't like his chances of staying healthy.

    biggest gripe is with the lack of star power. yeah haden and thomas.......my 2 faves. both are on the back end of their careers. so we have rg3 and a couple of rookies? all this for 26 picks in the last 2 years? in your QB thread cal suggests next year trading away one of our picks for jimmy garropolo......REALLY? why the fuck didn't we just draft him when we had the chance if he was your guy? that is backward thinking dude. you got the pick use it. trade down. trade down. there is next year to worry about. yeah? well what about this fucking year?

    and btw, i'm no ghoolie lapdog. i can think for myself. love the team. will root for them always. just do something spectacular one year and do it right in the draft. i'm sure coleman will be a burner. glad we thought WR this year, just like farmer thought DB overstock with multiple picks and maybe one will work out.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #67

    @miktoxic said:

    sure.

    our draft: as usual traded away a chance at a top 3 talent, prob a franchise QB of the future. great we have 14 picks like last years 12 which did absolutely friggin nothing but garnish more mid-level talent except maybe a couple of DL who still haven't pushed their way into top tier.

    hue jackson: great. an 8-8 HC. a QB guru OC who was on a team that never won a playoff game.

    RG3: like him. don't like his chances of staying healthy.

    biggest gripe is with the lack of star power. yeah haden and thomas.......my 2 faves. both are on the back end of their careers. so we have rg3 and a couple of rookies? all this for 26 picks in the last 2 years? in your QB thread cal suggests next year trading away one of our picks for jimmy garropolo......REALLY? why the fuck didn't we just draft him when we had the chance if he was your guy? that is backward thinking dude. you got the pick use it. trade down. trade down. there is next year to worry about. yeah? well what about this fucking year?

    and btw, i'm no ghoolie lapdog. i can think for myself. love the team. will root for them always. just do something spectacular one year and do it right in the draft. i'm sure coleman will be a burner. glad we thought WR this year, just like farmer thought DB overstock with multiple picks and maybe one will work out.

    Fucked up rambling. Like the people who passed on Jimmy Garafalo are still in charge?

    We rebooted in Jan 2016 in case you missed it ... All your bitching about shit that happened before that is irrelevant.

    You sound like the bald drunk at the local bar who secretly likes dicks and has opinions on things that happened in the past and no clue about the present or the future.

    Unless there is a juicy dick involved. Then you are all in.

    Z

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #68

    A hairy greek talkin about dicks. Man ur breakin all the stereotypes tonite Z.

    Put down ur Amstel lite and ouzo and go take a nap.

  • @hoorta said:

    Practice? Did you say practice Z? Let me remind you of that Training Camp sensation we had a few years back -Ben Gay. Until I see Coleman on the field tearing it up in a couple of games that actually count- I'll reserve judgement. How the Cavs and Indians did\ are doing has zero relationship to how well- or poorly the Browns may or may not do.

    Maybe we can draft, and maybe Hue is a real coach. Ghoolie doesn't think so. 🙂

    Fuck Ghoolie, Fuck you (with all due respect) and fuck Mix ... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #69

    Zombo said:

    Fuck Ghoolie... We are nailing the young guys, we nailed the coach, and pretty sure we nailed the QB. People jumped all over Johnny (hated him)but they're not jumping on this?

    Sorry ... This feels real, don't be late to the party.

    Z

    Here's your Train to Jump on^^^Z you nailed it..Our draftees last season & this season will have to Actually PLAY on Sundays. Hue & Staff are some of the best evaluate-rs- Comparing all the QB options we had..RG3 fits our roster issues..Kap out, Wentz surely was a sitting duck for here now. To the bandwagon jumpers on Dak Prescott. Would have never happened after his DWI/DUI coming off the ManHell experience. May have been a option, till DWI/DUI booted him down our board..

  • @texasag1969 said:

    LOL! I love August. It's the same in Cleveland as it is in College Station. "This is the year!!"

    Until mid-way through the season the tune changes to, "Wait till next year!"

    Whatever.College Station is minor leagues

    The Browns back on track is major news.

    Home of Paul Brown, Jim Brown, and Otto Graham. Cradle of pro football. Mecca of NFL. No one gives a shit whether Texas A&M goes 8-4 or 7-5.

    Z

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #70

    Zombo said:

    Whatever.College Station is minor leagues

    The Browns back on track is major news.

    Home of Paul Brown, Jim Brown, and Otto Graham. Cradle of pro football. Mecca of NFL. No one gives a shit whether Texas A&M goes 8-4 or 7-5.

    Z

    In Ohio that is true. However the "Wait till next year" saying has existed in College Station since Bear Bryant left in 1957, well before the Jim Brown glory days. It was part of the culture by the time my brother went there in 1963. Was even more ingrained when I started in 1965. 😁

    But back to the topic. I am hopeful of some impact by the new defensive players. Less so with O players where I think we whiffed on some picks. We'll have a far better idea how we did overall toward the end of this season as the learning curve gets smaller. If memory serves I think Nassib was one of my "finds" in the mock draft we played this year. But as I get older memory gets trickier and too lazy to look it up. *

    * I looked it up and Mudfly picked Nassib @ #74 overall for the Bucs.

  • A hairy greek talkin about dicks. Man ur breakin all the stereotypes tonite Z.

    Put down ur Amstel lite and ouzo and go take a nap.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #71

    @miktoxic said:

    A hairy greek talkin about dicks. Man ur breakin all the stereotypes tonite Z.

    Put down ur Amstel lite and ouzo and go take a nap.

    I'm 100% Irish American motherfucker.

    You are are about as good at analyzing my heritage and drinks of choice as you are at analyzing these young Browns.

    Bitter Beer Face Mix sitting in a dive bar shitting on everything ... It's a good look.

    Z