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  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'm surprised no one has said anything about how poor our punt coverage was, truly atrocious. It's like the left side needed no containment because maybe they will just run to our right for us. Amazing.

    This team reminds me of what Tampa Bay looked like its first seasons as a franchise. You know the one McKay talked about:

    "You do a lot of praying, but most of the time the answer is 'no.'" -- on why coaching an expansion team is a religious experience

    Funny you mentioned that, when I saw it live I just thought oh yeah high school football starts this week because that's how bad it looked.

    Hey young team, maybe they'll come around by week ____ . (pick a number)

    Oh didn't McKay say when asked about his team's execution that he was in favor of it?

    And the old Tampa Bay team is why we have better new team pool rules now.

    GO BROWNS, we still love ya'. 😉

    @mjp28 said:

    Funny you mentioned that, when I saw it live I just thought oh yeah high school football starts this week because that's how bad it looked.

    Hey young team, maybe they'll come around by week ____ . (pick a number)

    Oh didn't McKay say when asked about his team's execution that he was in favor of it?

    And the old Tampa Bay team is why we have better new team pool rules now.

    GO BROWNS, we still love ya'. 😉

    Funny you mentioned high school ball as I contemplated going to a HS game but instead talked myself into watching this shitshow we call the browns. Missed a really good game with that bad decision.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Funny you mentioned that, when I saw it live I just thought oh yeah high school football starts this week because that's how bad it looked.

    Hey young team, maybe they'll come around by week ____ . (pick a number)

    Oh didn't McKay say when asked about his team's execution that he was in favor of it?

    And the old Tampa Bay team is why we have better new team pool rules now.

    GO BROWNS, we still love ya'. 😉

    Funny you mentioned high school ball as I contemplated going to a HS game but instead talked myself into watching this shitshow we call the browns. Missed a really good game with that bad decision.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Funny you mentioned high school ball as I contemplated going to a HS game but instead talked myself into watching this shitshow we call the browns. Missed a really good game with that bad decision.

    Yeah my old high school team had a televised game vs an old rival....I chose the BROWNS and TRIBE, well the TRIBE won 12-1. (Two TVs, yeah I'm a sick bastard.)

    And the high school game was Postponed after one quarter and finished the next day. So you win some and lose some.

  • Well the Titans play the Raiders at 8pm est tonight on CBS regular tv, so we have a chance to see what two other bad teams of 2-3 years ago have been up to to change their fortunes. Should be quite educational to our FO if any Havaad grads there had a lick o' sense.

  • OH POOR DALLAS, Tony Romo out 8-10 weeks, see why you let starters sit....if you can.

    Thank goodness we draft tomorrow.

  • Mud right on the money. I love stockpiling draft picks to take Corey Coleman 15th. None of the WRs drafted look very good, for goodness sake Pryor is being touted as #2 after Gordon. The whole organization stinks but the seats will be filled and the jerseys will be purchased, rinse and repeat. I wish the NFL would just take the franchise over an appoint someone to run it like the NBA has done with the 76ers.

  • Well the Titans play the Raiders at 8pm est tonight on CBS regular tv, so we have a chance to see what two other bad teams of 2-3 years ago have been up to to change their fortunes. Should be quite educational to our FO if any Havaad grads there had a lick o' sense.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well the Titans play the Raiders at 8pm est tonight on CBS regular tv, so we have a chance to see what two other bad teams of 2-3 years ago have been up to to change their fortunes. Should be quite educational to our FO if any Havaad grads there had a lick o' sense.

    Raiders 8-8 this year

  • All Pettine and Oneil's fault. Give Hue at least until he is 12-36 to realize Lombardi couldn't win without talent in today's NFL.

  • Browns and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Titans will struggle.

    Z

  • Browns and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Titans will struggle.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Browns and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Titans will struggle.

    Z

    If they Browns win 8 or more games hell will have officially frozen over.

  • Zombo said:

    Browns and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Titans will struggle.

    Z

    If they Browns win 8 or more games hell will have officially frozen over.

    @baconhound said:

    If they Browns win 8 or more games hell will have officially frozen over.

    Have them throw some ice skates in your casket.

    Z

  • @mjp28 said:

    . Remember too how many fans wanted him gone, be careful what you wish for sometimes.

    I said this over and over and over again....last season....when EVERYONE was SCREAMING for a reset.....

    Now ....the wish has been granted.....

    @mudfly said:

    I said this over and over and over again....last season....when EVERYONE was SCREAMING for a reset.....

    Now ....the wish has been granted.....

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

  • @mudfly said:

    I said this over and over and over again....last season....when EVERYONE was SCREAMING for a reset.....

    Now ....the wish has been granted.....

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

    Absolutely not but the problem wasn't coaching. All the "coach's fault" critics will be singing the same tune this year or will be dishonest with their critique because this Browns team is less talented than last, never thought that could happen.

  • @mudfly said:

    I said this over and over and over again....last season....when EVERYONE was SCREAMING for a reset.....

    Now ....the wish has been granted.....

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

    Just like this year?

  • Browns and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Titans will struggle.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Titans and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Browns will shit the bed .....again.

    Z

    There, fixed it for ya. 😛

  • Zombo said:

    Titans and Raiders will both be .500 or better, Browns will shit the bed .....again.

    Z

    There, fixed it for ya. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    There, fixed it for ya. 😛

    Fuck you, no Browns fan would say that, get the fuck out of here.

    Z

  • @texasag1969 said:

    There, fixed it for ya. 😛

    Fuck you, no Browns fan would say that, get the fuck out of here.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Fuck you, no Browns fan would say that, get the fuck out of here.

    Z

    Really? I thought Mud gave a pretty damned accurate description of exactly that. All I did was sum it up in a nutshell.

  • Zombo said:

    Fuck you, no Browns fan would say that, get the fuck out of here.

    Z

    Really? I thought Mud gave a pretty damned accurate description of exactly that. All I did was sum it up in a nutshell.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Really? I thought Mud gave a pretty damned accurate description of exactly that. All I did was sum it up in a nutshell.

    All you did was cross the line. Mud is a frustrated loyal Browns fan. You are an outsider grasping for the low hanging fruit. Don't pile on the Browns. The only reason you are here is because we wasted paychecks and two seasons on your fanboy fantasy, Don't get glib with us, motherfucker.

    Z

  • Good night Z. Catch you tomorrow.

    PS-I'll think about what you have said, minus the expletives. I can see for you I have hit a deep nerve. My apologies.

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    Yeah because they were on the cusp of something great last year right?

    Absolutely not but the problem wasn't coaching. All the "coach's fault" critics will be singing the same tune this year or will be dishonest with their critique because this Browns team is less talented than last, never thought that could happen.

    @baconhound said:

    Absolutely not but the problem wasn't coaching.

    A full 50% of the problem WAS coaching.

    Pettine was useless and his crony O'Neil ran a crappy defense. And the dumb ass in the front office allowed good players to go through their contract year with no new deal so that they could all head to free agency this past winter. The new FO had to walk right into that.

    Our D is going to take a step backwards this year. We should expect that. I know that I did. But it's really nothing new. Pettine's gang made the D worse while they were here...now Horton has to try and regroup with less talent and more rookies. Good luck with that Ray.

    With any luck, Ray can coach up the players so that they're playing decent football in the latter half of the year.

  • Good night Z. Catch you tomorrow.

    PS-I'll think about what you have said, minus the expletives. I can see for you I have hit a deep nerve. My apologies.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Good night Z. Catch you tomorrow.

    PS-I'll think about what you have said, minus the expletives. I can see for you I have hit a deep nerve. My apologies.

    These guys that have been Browns fans for 20, 30, 40, 50 years ... They don't have the patience for another reboot, and I understand that, but it's not cool for an outsider to jump in on their frustration and join the doom and gloom bandwagon and rub the rest of our faces in it.

    You came here because of Johnny, and he was a total tool who set the franchise back yet another two years. Now we are trying something new, and it looks ugly at this early moment, but I'd like to think it is a true rebirth and we don't need you shitting on it in preseason of the first year.

    That said, I feel bad now that you apologized, because I called you a Dicklicker or something again in the other thread.

    Z