***Official Browns @ Buccaneers Preseason Game Night Thread***
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We gave up 8 sacks -38 yrds. 6 of the 8 were from 5 different personal at DE position..Add 9 penalties -68 yrds. 106 yrds. of going backwards..
True, but only one in Joe T's series when Paztor showed how susceptible he is to a speed rush.
And the false start on Joe, while correct IMO, was the first time I've seen it called that way when a DL lurches forward.
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Also the TB cheerleaders look good
They always do
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what I saw in last night's debacle, was
1. Running defense looked better most of the time.
2. Pass defense uncoordinated.
3. Danny Shelton is ready to come into big time play
4. The Bucs are so deep in high talent, game planning is a must, and even then....tough deal.
5. We started being able to run the ball a bit.
6. RGIII just doesn't seem to see the field yet.
7. McCown and Kessler see the field quickly and nicely.
8. Offensive line needs a new changes - bull rushes were getting a few players knocked olinemen back.
9. The Browns #99 was being held flagrantly. That is Kruger. The olineman was locking his arm,
around to the back of his shoulder, etc etc. Not one call. Again and again I saw it. WTF ?
Their offensive line had a free ride to hold. Go back and watch for it. It was right there. Kruger was
not happy about it. time and time again, no call.
10. Then, the Browns oline got called for holding, probably 3rd qtr? Is or is it now a FREAKING PENALTY.
11. Who knew that the Browns are not quite ready for primetime? everybody with any common sense.
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None of this matters till game 1
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None of this matters till game 1
None of this matters till game 1
and nothing will matter by game 7, 2-5, sorry Philly & Tenn
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nope....if he was a "player", he woulda made the tackle on that run back for a TD.....didnt even try.....(pathetic)
I did like how Hue got in his face after that play.
Overall, I'm thinking I may spend my Sundays fishing instead of getting pissed off watching this team. I still have a tiny glimmer of hope that something will happen on the defense before the season gets too far in but it is quickly diminishing. At least RG3 and Gordon are making some plays.
I did like how Hue got in his face after that play.
Overall, I'm thinking I may spend my Sundays fishing instead of getting pissed off watching this team. I still have a tiny glimmer of hope that something will happen on the defense before the season gets too far in but it is quickly diminishing. At least RG3 and Gordon are making some plays.
You guys can't expect Hue to turn it around this soon and you're putting way too much emphasis on winning these meaningless games than you should be. Granted the Browns have looked bad this evening, but it's an early season scrimmage. That's all. And considering how bad they look, the only way to go from here is up. Hue inherited a very undisciplined team, and it's gonna take time to iron these kinks out. Glad to hear he was getting in the face of some players. Hopefully he has the green light to waive players that don't adapt to his disciplined style.
If I were a Browns fan, I would go into this season looking for steady improvement as the season moves forward. Obviously the Browns looked bad tonight, but what really matters is what they look like in weeks 13-16 as compared to the early part of the season. Win or lose, staying healthy is key in determining what positions are in the greatest need of an upgrade.
The only problem I have with Hue so far was his emphasis on drafting a lot of WRs (in a weak WR class) and basically ignoring the lines. After losing C Alex Mack, I thought the Browns would possibly trade down again, pick up extra draft picks, and select C Ryan Kelly. There was also a slew of great DTs in this past drafft, so adding one of these guys to line up beside DT Danny Shelton seemed like a no-brainer. Don't take this the wrong way. The Browns desperately needed WR help so drafting Coleman in round one was a good move, but as the old saying goes, 'it starts up front' and that's where Hue lost his way. Look for the Browns to address their lines in next years draft/free agency.
As a side note. All of Browns Nation should do everything in their power to follow the team to Pittsburgh when the Browns face the Steelitists. Browns fans should pack Heinz Field full of orange and brown and shake that crappy stadium to the ground. It's time for all of Browns Nation to stand up to the piss and black right in their own backyard instead of bailing out every year when the team heads to the steel city. It's as if everything 'Browns' gets intimidated during this week and it's long overdue to overhaul this attitude and it starts with you fans. It's going to be a tough task to accomplish since the Browns don't have that much talent up front on either side of the ball, but it has to start sometime so why not now? Punch the Steelitists in the mouth!
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I did like how Hue got in his face after that play.
Overall, I'm thinking I may spend my Sundays fishing instead of getting pissed off watching this team. I still have a tiny glimmer of hope that something will happen on the defense before the season gets too far in but it is quickly diminishing. At least RG3 and Gordon are making some plays.
You guys can't expect Hue to turn it around this soon and you're putting way too much emphasis on winning these meaningless games than you should be. Granted the Browns have looked bad this evening, but it's an early season scrimmage. That's all. And considering how bad they look, the only way to go from here is up. Hue inherited a very undisciplined team, and it's gonna take time to iron these kinks out. Glad to hear he was getting in the face of some players. Hopefully he has the green light to waive players that don't adapt to his disciplined style.
If I were a Browns fan, I would go into this season looking for steady improvement as the season moves forward. Obviously the Browns looked bad tonight, but what really matters is what they look like in weeks 13-16 as compared to the early part of the season. Win or lose, staying healthy is key in determining what positions are in the greatest need of an upgrade.
The only problem I have with Hue so far was his emphasis on drafting a lot of WRs (in a weak WR class) and basically ignoring the lines. After losing C Alex Mack, I thought the Browns would possibly trade down again, pick up extra draft picks, and select C Ryan Kelly. There was also a slew of great DTs in this past drafft, so adding one of these guys to line up beside DT Danny Shelton seemed like a no-brainer. Don't take this the wrong way. The Browns desperately needed WR help so drafting Coleman in round one was a good move, but as the old saying goes, 'it starts up front' and that's where Hue lost his way. Look for the Browns to address their lines in next years draft/free agency.
As a side note. All of Browns Nation should do everything in their power to follow the team to Pittsburgh when the Browns face the Steelitists. Browns fans should pack Heinz Field full of orange and brown and shake that crappy stadium to the ground. It's time for all of Browns Nation to stand up to the piss and black right in their own backyard instead of bailing out every year when the team heads to the steel city. It's as if everything 'Browns' gets intimidated during this week and it's long overdue to overhaul this attitude and it starts with you fans. It's going to be a tough task to accomplish since the Browns don't have that much talent up front on either side of the ball, but it has to start sometime so why not now? Punch the Steelitists in the mouth!
You guys can't expect Hue to turn it around this soon and you're putting way too much emphasis on winning these meaningless games than you should. Granted the Browns have looked bad this evening, but it's an early season scrimmage. That's all. And considering how bad they look, the only way to go from here is up. Hue inherited a very undisciplined team, and it's gonna take time to iron these kinks out. Glad to hear he was getting in face of some players. Hopefully he has the green light to waive players that don't adapt to his disciplined style.
If I were a Browns fan, I would go into this season looking for steady improvement as the season moves forward. Obviously the Browns looked bad tonight, but what really matters is what they look like in weeks 13-16 as compared to the early part of the season. Win or lose, staying healthy is key in determining what positions are in the most need of an upgrade.
The only problem I have with Hue so far was his emphasis on drafting a lot of WRs (in a weak WR class) and basically ignoring the lines. After losing C Alex Mack, I thought the Browns would possibly trade down again, pick up extra draft picks, and select the C Ryan Kelly. There was also a slew of great DTs in this past drafft, so adding one of these guys to line up beside DT Danny Shelton seemed like a no-brainer. Don't take this the wrong way. The Browns desperately needed WR help so drafting Coleman in round one was a good move, but as the old saying goes, 'it starts up front' and that's where Hue lost his way. Look for the Browns to address their lines in next years draft/free agency.
As a side note. All of Browns Nation should do everything in their power to follow the team to Pittsburgh when they play the Steelitists. Browns fans should pack Heinz Field full of orange and brown and shake that crappy stadium to the ground. It's time for all of Browns Nation to stand up to the piss and black right in their own backyard instead of bailing out every year when the team heads to the steel city. It's as if everything 'Browns' wimps out during this week and it's long overdue to turn this attitude around and it starts with you fans. It's going to be a tough task to accomplish since the Browns don't have that much talent up front on either side of the ball, but it has to start sometime so why not now? Punch the Steelitists in the mouth!
Shut ... The fuck ... Up.
Z
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You guys can't expect Hue to turn it around this soon and you're putting way too much emphasis on winning these meaningless games than you should. Granted the Browns have looked bad this evening, but it's an early season scrimmage. That's all. And considering how bad they look, the only way to go from here is up. Hue inherited a very undisciplined team, and it's gonna take time to iron these kinks out. Glad to hear he was getting in face of some players. Hopefully he has the green light to waive players that don't adapt to his disciplined style.
If I were a Browns fan, I would go into this season looking for steady improvement as the season moves forward. Obviously the Browns looked bad tonight, but what really matters is what they look like in weeks 13-16 as compared to the early part of the season. Win or lose, staying healthy is key in determining what positions are in the most need of an upgrade.
The only problem I have with Hue so far was his emphasis on drafting a lot of WRs (in a weak WR class) and basically ignoring the lines. After losing C Alex Mack, I thought the Browns would possibly trade down again, pick up extra draft picks, and select the C Ryan Kelly. There was also a slew of great DTs in this past drafft, so adding one of these guys to line up beside DT Danny Shelton seemed like a no-brainer. Don't take this the wrong way. The Browns desperately needed WR help so drafting Coleman in round one was a good move, but as the old saying goes, 'it starts up front' and that's where Hue lost his way. Look for the Browns to address their lines in next years draft/free agency.
As a side note. All of Browns Nation should do everything in their power to follow the team to Pittsburgh when they play the Steelitists. Browns fans should pack Heinz Field full of orange and brown and shake that crappy stadium to the ground. It's time for all of Browns Nation to stand up to the piss and black right in their own backyard instead of bailing out every year when the team heads to the steel city. It's as if everything 'Browns' wimps out during this week and it's long overdue to turn this attitude around and it starts with you fans. It's going to be a tough task to accomplish since the Browns don't have that much talent up front on either side of the ball, but it has to start sometime so why not now? Punch the Steelitists in the mouth!
Shut ... The fuck ... Up.
Z
Zombo said:
Shut ... The fuck ... Up.
Z
Someone feeling a tad intimidated tonight?
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Zombo said:
Shut ... The fuck ... Up.
Z
Someone feeling a tad intimidated tonight?
Someone feeling a tad intimidated tonight?
No, someone feels like you are a complete homo and your posting about "Hue" like you know him is disturbing, and your obsession about our relationship with the Steelers is creepy. Come back when we actually play you.
Z
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None of this matters till game 1
and nothing will matter by game 7, 2-5, sorry Philly & Tenn
and nothing will matter by game 7, 2-5, sorry Philly & Tenn
Tenn? You have lost your mind. Will be one of the worst runovers you ever saw with both Murray and Henry getting 100+ yds.
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and nothing will matter by game 7, 2-5, sorry Philly & Tenn
Tenn? You have lost your mind. Will be one of the worst runovers you ever saw with both Murray and Henry getting 100+ yds.
Tenn? You have lost your mind. Will be one of the worst runovers you ever saw with both Murray and Henry getting 100+ yds.
Fuck you, you Denver-loving douchebag.
You haven't earned the right to criticize our team on our board, your true colors are still in question.
We will roll Tennessee, Dicklicker.
Z
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Tenn? You have lost your mind. Will be one of the worst runovers you ever saw with both Murray and Henry getting 100+ yds.
Fuck you, you Denver-loving douchebag.
You haven't earned the right to criticize our team on our board, your true colors are still in question.
We will roll Tennessee, Dicklicker.
Z
Zombo said:
Fuck you, you Denver-loving douchebag.
You haven't earned the right to criticize our team on our board, your true colors are still in question.
We will roll Tennessee, Dicklicker.
Z
In your wet dreams maybe, but not in the reality of such a poor run defense. I call it as I see it. And Denver will not repeat. No decent experienced QB. So I can be critical of my other team as well.
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Zombo said:
Fuck you, you Denver-loving douchebag.
You haven't earned the right to criticize our team on our board, your true colors are still in question.
We will roll Tennessee, Dicklicker.
Z
In your wet dreams maybe, but not in the reality of such a poor run defense. I call it as I see it. And Denver will not repeat. No decent experienced QB. So I can be critical of my other team as well.
In your wet dreams maybe, but not in the reality of such a poor run defense. I call it as I see it. And Denver will not repeat. No decent experienced QB. So I can be critical of my other team as well.
We will beat the fuck out of Tennessee and you like dicks.
Z
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In your wet dreams maybe, but not in the reality of such a poor run defense. I call it as I see it. And Denver will not repeat. No decent experienced QB. So I can be critical of my other team as well.
We will beat the fuck out of Tennessee and you like dicks.
Z
Zombo said:
We will beat the fuck out of Tennessee and you like dicks.
Z
LOL! Projection is a wonderful concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
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I understand Browns fans being impatient with the reboot.
But for a Broncos fan to come in here and openly root for the Titans to roll us and tell us we are going to "shit the bed again" ... You need to find another place to talk football fuckface.
Zombo
-- oh no, I just projected you being a fuckface. My face must want to fuck
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I understand Browns fans being impatient with the reboot.
But for a Broncos fan to come in here and openly root for the Titans to roll us and tell us we are going to "shit the bed again" ... You need to find another place to talk football fuckface.
Zombo
-- oh no, I just projected you being a fuckface. My face must want to fuck
Zombo said:
I understand Browns fans being impatient with the reboot.
But for a Broncos fan to come in here and openly root for the Titans to roll us and tell us we are going to "shit the bed again" ... You need to find another place to talk football fuckface.
Zombo
-- oh no, I just projected you being a fuckface. My face must want to fuck
Get some rest Z. I'm not rooting for them to beat us. I'm just watching what those two backs are doing last week and tonight and combining that with what I see in the Browns lack of a run defense. I am a realist whether it is Denver, the Browns or my hapless Aggies. I'm a football fan, especially when it comes to defense. And I take the really long view on the Browns. Build that D and the rest will fall in place. But I see that as a 3-5 year project, not a 3-5 game one. And I am thinking that the Browns have a great shot with those two 1st rounders for one of them to be Myles Garrett, best defender we have had since Von Miller and one of the 4-5 best in our history. He could change everything for the Browns if we add a LB or two to the mix and run the 4-3.
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