K'Waun Williams Cut
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I bet Joe Thomas is thinking .....hmmmm I wonder if I fake an injury and miss a tackle will I get traded
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Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
My take is he wanted a second opinion and the team would not allow him to go get it. So he went on his own volition. Players gotta look out for their own long term health, cause the team aint gonna do it for them.....just add him to the pile of starter quality of players leaving in the largest mass exodus the Browns have ever seen....
We started the year with very little experienced talent....we now have none.....
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I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...
It cant be close....Taylor stood out as "not looking good" in the game, which has been his issue since he was drafted.....Kwaun has a solid 2 year history of exceptional(top stuff) kind of play.....
The whole competition thing is just coach speak.....if he's healthy, it'll be kwaun
and Im really sorry to hear he could be down, cause we need him......
It cant be close....Taylor stood out as "not looking good" in the game, which has been his issue since he was drafted.....Kwaun has a solid 2 year history of exceptional(top stuff) kind of play.....
The whole competition thing is just coach speak.....if he's healthy, it'll be kwaun
and Im really sorry to hear he could be down, cause we need him......
Totally agree Mud. K'Wuan's biggest challenge was staying healthy. It seemed like he got hurt real easy and often. I thought he was our 2nd best corner.
Taylor doesn't impress me as a tackler or in coverage yet. Hopefully that changes.
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Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
My take is he wanted a second opinion and the team would not allow him to go get it. So he went on his own volition. Players gotta look out for their own long term health, cause the team aint gonna do it for them.....just add him to the pile of starter quality of players leaving in the largest mass exodus the Browns have ever seen....
We started the year with very little experienced talent....we now have none.....
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Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
My take is he wanted a second opinion and the team would not allow him to go get it. So he went on his own volition. Players gotta look out for their own long term health, cause the team aint gonna do it for them.....just add him to the pile of starter quality of players leaving in the largest mass exodus the Browns have ever seen....
We started the year with very little experienced talent....we now have none.....
Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
Hmmmm... What is different this year from the previous two? Hmmmm...
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K'Waun Williams was claimed off the waiver wire by Chicago today.
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K'Waun Williams was claimed off the waiver wire by Chicago today.
K'Waun Williams was claimed off the waiver wire by Chicago today.
will be pro bowler.
the cleveland jinx.
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K'Waun Williams was claimed off the waiver wire by Chicago today.
will be pro bowler.
the cleveland jinx.
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K'Waun Williams was claimed off the waiver wire by Chicago today.
will be pro bowler.
the cleveland jinx.
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Zombo said:
Oh ya. For sure. Mingo, Kruger, K'wan and Andy Pussy Lee are going to be big time Pro Bowlers this year.
LOL!
Go, Hue, Go!
Zombo
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Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
My take is he wanted a second opinion and the team would not allow him to go get it. So he went on his own volition. Players gotta look out for their own long term health, cause the team aint gonna do it for them.....just add him to the pile of starter quality of players leaving in the largest mass exodus the Browns have ever seen....
We started the year with very little experienced talent....we now have none.....
Wonder what happened this year to create the rift....he was spot on his first 2 years....
My take is he wanted a second opinion and the team would not allow him to go get it. So he went on his own volition. Players gotta look out for their own long term health, cause the team aint gonna do it for them.....just add him to the pile of starter quality of players leaving in the largest mass exodus the Browns have ever seen....
We started the year with very little experienced talent....we now have none.....
Haden is about it. MHO Tramon Williams isn't very good. If you look at the offensive side- we have two A grade players, Thomas and Gordon- and Josh is sidelined till week 5. Bitonio is a solid talent- but the rest of the O? Nothing great that couldn't be replaced. Plus a bunch of question marks- (Pryor, Coleman, and RG III)
Zombo said:
Oh ya. For sure. Mingo, Kruger, K'wan and Andy Pussy Lee are going to be big time Pro Bowlers this year.
LOL!
Go, Hue, Go!
Zombo
Yup, that's right- a lot of people go-ing. Before that Mack, Schwartz, Whitner, and Dansby. See above- save Joe Haden- hope he's healthy- we have a lot of B minus (and worse) talent on defense. And a lot of inexperienced rookies whose talent level is a big ?. Little wonder they're getting chewed up.
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Failed his physical. Off the Bears roster.
So much for the Pro Bowl.
Zombo
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Failed his physical. Off the Bears roster.
So much for the Pro Bowl.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Failed his physical. Off the Bears roster.
So much for the Pro Bowl.
Zombo
Well, those ankles...bone spurs... were a problem for him.
But, for some reason, I thought there was a rule about cutting a guy because of injury. There is some rule....maybe about IR?
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I still don't understand this story. I wonder if the whole thing will ever come to light.
Here are the cliffs notes...
Kwaun had pain in his ankle
Browns Dr's looked at it and said he was fine
He said he wanted time off for a second opinion
The Browns said no and added him to a game roster
He declined to play due to pain
The Browns fined and suspended him
He left camp to go to Washington and see another doctor
Doctor said he needed surgery
The Browns cut him
The Bears signed him
The Bears Dr's looked and said he needed surgery
confirming Kwauns original concerns.....
so, the Browns wanted him to play with the injury and then suspended him for taking his own health into his own hands...
Nice!.....way to treat your players guys.....
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So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..
CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait
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So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..
CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait
So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..
CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait
Dr. Hoorta chimes in. Um, depends where the bone spurs are- and it sure as hell won't be three weeks. He has the surgery now- done for the year. Maybe that's why the Browns were balking. Put him on IR- pay him for the year, and then he walks? Lose\ lose proposition. Below is a quote from someone who had the surgery, and from one of my co-workers that had the same, it sounds about right.
"I had a bone spur under my Achilles tendon that was insertional Achilles tendinosis. I had the surgery done in December and by the end of February I was able to walk a bit. I had to use a walker for a few weeks, then a cane. I was on a knee scooter after my surgery with absolutely no weight bearing at all. That is probably the hardest part of this surgery. It took a year before all the pain was resolved, but now that foot is much better."
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