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  • @jiggins7919 said:

    The more I think about it, the less it makes sense for the Eagles to play Wentz.

    Browns will have a good chance to run the ball this week because I don't think we're going to be down early. How many games last year started out with us getting behind and not being able to run as much as we'd like because we needed points? A ton, right? I don't see that happening this game, and we'll have every opportunity to establish the run. Problem is, the Eagles are not going to try and hide the fact that they will be stacking the box with 8 defenders whenever possible. They will basically dare us to beat them with the pass, and if we DO get the running game cooking, I'm guessing we set up the run with the pass. We hit a few nice pass plays and force the Eagles to respect the air game, and we might just get that ground game rocking.

    I want to predict a Browns victory, I really do. Problem is, it's a season opener and we all know how we do with THOSE. And just because Wentz starts the game, doesn't mean the Eagles won't bench him if he looks to be in over his head.

    Really nice analysis...

    I'll add that the Eagles have an established D that was simply put on the field too much last year by Chip Kelly's high-paced, misfiring Offense. Loosening them up with the pass will require us to take a different tact than they will need to take to loosen us up. Namely I think we have to stretch the field early.

    The other thing I'll mention is I think it is important for us to rattle Wentz early. If he makes it to halftime with "decent" stats and no Pick-6 scale, self-inflicted wounds, then I think he gets stronger in the second half.

    @tour2ma said:

    Really nice analysis...

    I'll add that the Eagles have an established D that was simply put on the field too much last year by Chip Kelly's high-paced, misfiring Offense. Loosening them up with the pass will require us to take a different tact than they will need to take to loosen us up. Namely I think we have to stretch the field early.

    The other thing I'll mention is I think it is important for us to rattle Wentz early. If he makes it to halftime with "decent" stats and no Pick-6 scale, self-inflicted wounds, then I think he gets stronger in the second half.

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Really nice analysis...

    I'll add that the Eagles have an established D that was simply put on the field too much last year by Chip Kelly's high-paced, misfiring Offense. Loosening them up with the pass will require us to take a different tact than they will need to take to loosen us up. Namely I think we have to stretch the field early.

    The other thing I'll mention is I think it is important for us to rattle Wentz early. If he makes it to halftime with "decent" stats and no Pick-6 scale, self-inflicted wounds, then I think he gets stronger in the second half.

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    lol... Maroon solves everything... 😉

  • What really scares me is the game will come down to our defense stopping the run. We get them in consistent 3rd and longs, and I like our chances. Rookie QB's starting week 1 generally have poor results. There are ALWAYS exceptions, and Mariotta comes to mind last year. He absolutely blew up against Winston and the Bucs, only to have his ass handed to him by our team in the next game. Mariotta and Winston were named starters right away, and they had WAY more time with the starters than Wentz will have with his team.

    This is the time when you just wish to the high heavens that you had some verified sack artists on your team. Wentz wasn't strong at scanning the field and making quick decisions, and making the jump from division two to the NFL is bananas. There will be times when he has to take a 5 step drop, and SOMEBODY has to make his life miserable on our team. Nassib, Ogbah, Schobert...SOMEBODY. We have to make the clock tick faster in his head and force him into either taking the dump off, or forcing something deep. Honestly, if you guys play "Draft Kings" or any other fantasy football money sites, I would greatly consider starting the Browns defense this week. This could be the only week I recommend that, but they are cheap and could yield tremendous results. There will be blitzes this weekend that Wentz hasn't seen before. Very similar to what we did against Mariotta. We all know how Horton likes to come after guys, but I seriously hopes he employs a balanced attack. Rookie or not, if Wentz knows a blitz is coming, he'll be able to locate the single coverage and throw it deep on us. Rushing 3 on third and long could yield positive results as well. Make him fit the ball into tight spaces, and don't flush him out of the pocket. This guy is mobile, and will be looking to run if protection breaks down. Ray Horton...if you're listening...DON'T BLITZ ON EVERY 3RD DOWN.

    Something else that comes to mind is tackling. I expect Wentz to throw a shitload of short passes in hopes that his receiver breaks a tackle and gets YAC. We haven't displayed the ability to tackle well this preseason, and guys like Sproles could make our lives freaking miserable. We miss tackles, and we lose. It's that simple.

  • The thing that I'm clinging to, with the expectations of a run heavy game plan from Philly, is that their backs aren't exactly Peterson, Gurley, or Bell. Ryan Matthews is the main guy, and he's basically done nothing.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    lol... Maroon solves everything... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... Maroon solves everything... 😉

    Or a moron in maroon solves everything. 😆

  • @tour2ma said:

    lol... Maroon solves everything... 😉

    Or a moron in maroon solves everything. 😆

    @texasag1969 said:

    Or a moron in maroon solves everything. 😆

    Cleveland Browns draft strategy, circa 2014.

  • I think we have a chance, but it's hard to predict. Defense will probably get rolled on by a mediocre offense.

    Browns: 27

    Eagles: 24

  • I think calling the Eagles' offense "mediocre" is a stretch...possibly a big one. Think about starting a division 2 rookie QB that only played in the first preseason game and didn't take ANY first team reps until 3 days ago. Now, the QB is just ONE POSITION, but it's a pretty big part of the equation. They have decent receivers, good TE's, a good OL, solid RB's, and Sproles is always dangerous, but everything keeps going back to the QB....

    I know this will sound absolutely nuts, but here it goes. I think the reason the Browns lose this game is because it would just HURT that much. Imagine the headline, "Cleveland Browns lose to a rookie QB who just started practicing on Monday with the starters and hasn't played since week 1 of the preseason. Oh, and it's the same QB they passed on with the second pick."

    It just makes WAAAAAAY too much sense for us to lose. LOL. Oh, and it's a season opener, so that alone screws us royally.

    In all seriousness, the stars couldn't align any better for our beleaguered team to actually win a season opener. Not only that, but if we win, we help our draft order for next year. Look at the numbers for rookie starting QB's, and look especially at their wins-losses. The vast majority of rookie QB's have terrible records. This Eagles' pick could be VERY high...

  • I think calling the Eagles' offense "mediocre" is a stretch...possibly a big one. Think about starting a division 2 rookie QB that only played in the first preseason game and didn't take ANY first team reps until 3 days ago. Now, the QB is just ONE POSITION, but it's a pretty big part of the equation. They have decent receivers, good TE's, a good OL, solid RB's, and Sproles is always dangerous, but everything keeps going back to the QB....

    I know this will sound absolutely nuts, but here it goes. I think the reason the Browns lose this game is because it would just HURT that much. Imagine the headline, "Cleveland Browns lose to a rookie QB who just started practicing on Monday with the starters and hasn't played since week 1 of the preseason. Oh, and it's the same QB they passed on with the second pick."

    It just makes WAAAAAAY too much sense for us to lose. LOL. Oh, and it's a season opener, so that alone screws us royally.

    In all seriousness, the stars couldn't align any better for our beleaguered team to actually win a season opener. Not only that, but if we win, we help our draft order for next year. Look at the numbers for rookie starting QB's, and look especially at their wins-losses. The vast majority of rookie QB's have terrible records. This Eagles' pick could be VERY high...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I think calling the Eagles' offense "mediocre" is a stretch...possibly a big one. Think about starting a division 2 rookie QB that only played in the first preseason game and didn't take ANY first team reps until 3 days ago. Now, the QB is just ONE POSITION, but it's a pretty big part of the equation. They have decent receivers, good TE's, a good OL, solid RB's, and Sproles is always dangerous, but everything keeps going back to the QB....

    I know this will sound absolutely nuts, but here it goes. I think the reason the Browns lose this game is because it would just HURT that much. Imagine the headline, "Cleveland Browns lose to a rookie QB who just started practicing on Monday with the starters and hasn't played since week 1 of the preseason. Oh, and it's the same QB they passed on with the second pick."

    It just makes WAAAAAAY too much sense for us to lose. LOL. Oh, and it's a season opener, so that alone screws us royally.

    In all seriousness, the stars couldn't align any better for our beleaguered team to actually win a season opener. Not only that, but if we win, we help our draft order for next year. Look at the numbers for rookie starting QB's, and look especially at their wins-losses. The vast majority of rookie QB's have terrible records. This Eagles' pick could be VERY high...

    If the Browns lose this game it will be because their defense is just bad at this point and will not be able to handle the constant running by the Eagles.

  • Yeah, that's pretty much it. Stopping the run and tackling on the short passes...that plus the turnover battle will determine this game.

    I've heard/read so many analysts that really aren't giving the Browns a chance to win this game, and that's kind of funny to me. I obviously understand that our team isn't a juggernaut of talent, but let's not pretend that the Eagles are 85 Bears either. We could very easily rattle this young QB and stomp their asses into the ground. As I've said over and over, my biggest concern from a schematic standpoint is Ray Horton getting blitz happy and leaving our subpar secondary exposed.

    It doesn't get much better boys, not for an opener. As much as we completely and HISTORICALLY suck in first games, this is the one that has me licking my chops the most. The thought of actually winning our first game is enough to make me go bananas.

    I actually started Crowell in my fantasy league this week. It's pretty risky, but I figure the Browns will have at least four trips to the red zone. Crow figures to get several chances to punch it in, and I'd LOVE to see that happen.

  • If someone tells the rookies that the Browns own the longest active streak of opening day losses, maybe they'll be fired up and win! Right now the streak is 11 and hopefully it stops on Sunday.

  • If someone tells the rookies that the Browns own the longest active streak of opening day losses, maybe they'll be fired up and win! Right now the streak is 11 and hopefully it stops on Sunday.

    @opal312 said:

    If someone tells the rookies that the Browns own the longest active streak of opening day losses, maybe they'll be fired up and win! Right now the streak is 11 and hopefully it stops on Sunday.

    It'd be nice for a change.

    Got a feeling a lot of teams will be upset for not jumpin on the chance to draft wentz. Not saying he'll beat us sunday or he'll be a pro-bowler this year BUT......

  • I think calling the Eagles' offense "mediocre" is a stretch...possibly a big one. Think about starting a division 2 rookie QB that only played in the first preseason game and didn't take ANY first team reps until 3 days ago. Now, the QB is just ONE POSITION, but it's a pretty big part of the equation. They have decent receivers, good TE's, a good OL, solid RB's, and Sproles is always dangerous, but everything keeps going back to the QB....

    I know this will sound absolutely nuts, but here it goes. I think the reason the Browns lose this game is because it would just HURT that much. Imagine the headline, "Cleveland Browns lose to a rookie QB who just started practicing on Monday with the starters and hasn't played since week 1 of the preseason. Oh, and it's the same QB they passed on with the second pick."

    It just makes WAAAAAAY too much sense for us to lose. LOL. Oh, and it's a season opener, so that alone screws us royally.

    In all seriousness, the stars couldn't align any better for our beleaguered team to actually win a season opener. Not only that, but if we win, we help our draft order for next year. Look at the numbers for rookie starting QB's, and look especially at their wins-losses. The vast majority of rookie QB's have terrible records. This Eagles' pick could be VERY high...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I think calling the Eagles' offense "mediocre" is a stretch...possibly a big one. Think about starting a division 2 rookie QB that only played in the first preseason game and didn't take ANY first team reps until 3 days ago.

    To make Wentz comfortable, the Eagle's OC is running his college offensive scheme.

    The Browns D will need to rattle Wentz's cage early and often, that would be enough to squeak out a win.

    The young'uns will shine on D and RGIII returns to his rookie form

    Browns - 28

    Iggles - 27

  • im sure at has been said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but just Blitz the hell out of wentz fuck him blitz every down that punk fron n.d state will fold under the pressure

  • @opal312 said:

    If someone tells the rookies that the Browns own the longest active streak of opening day losses, maybe they'll be fired up and win! Right now the streak is 11 and hopefully it stops on Sunday.

    It'd be nice for a change.

    Got a feeling a lot of teams will be upset for not jumpin on the chance to draft wentz. Not saying he'll beat us sunday or he'll be a pro-bowler this year BUT......

    @miktoxic said:

    It'd be nice for a change.

    Got a feeling a lot of teams will be upset for not jumpin on the chance to draft wentz. Not saying he'll beat us sunday or he'll be a pro-bowler this year BUT......

    Mik I predict that Nassib is going to send Wentz to the locker room by early in the 2nd quarter. Re aggravated cracked ribs as we begin to establish a nasty streak in our front D.
  • @tour2ma said:

    Really nice analysis...

    I'll add that the Eagles have an established D that was simply put on the field too much last year by Chip Kelly's high-paced, misfiring Offense. Loosening them up with the pass will require us to take a different tact than they will need to take to loosen us up. Namely I think we have to stretch the field early.

    The other thing I'll mention is I think it is important for us to rattle Wentz early. If he makes it to halftime with "decent" stats and no Pick-6 scale, self-inflicted wounds, then I think he gets stronger in the second half.

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    Wentz is gonna see blitzes he's never seen before. Key is stopping the Beagles running game.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Really nice analysis...

    I'll add that the Eagles have an established D that was simply put on the field too much last year by Chip Kelly's high-paced, misfiring Offense. Loosening them up with the pass will require us to take a different tact than they will need to take to loosen us up. Namely I think we have to stretch the field early.

    The other thing I'll mention is I think it is important for us to rattle Wentz early. If he makes it to halftime with "decent" stats and no Pick-6 scale, self-inflicted wounds, then I think he gets stronger in the second half.

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    Wentz is gonna see blitzes he's never seen before. Key is stopping the Beagles running game.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So we need to steal the A&M gameplan against UCLA's Rosen, rattle him early and often with multiple disguised blitzes. Sounds good on paper anyway.

    Wentz is gonna see blitzes he's never seen before. Key is stopping the Beagles running game.

    @hoorta said:

    Wentz is gonna see blitzes he's never seen before. Key is stopping the Beagles running game.

    THAT involves tackling.....let's hope Hue and Horty have that as part of their game plan, cause they left it out of the preseason prep.... 😉

    When the opposing RB has the ball, they should play Pinball Wizard on the PA.....cause thats what it looks like.....with the Browns being the bumpers....

  • I guess I should also jump back in and say Im picking the Browns, just because we are up against a QB who has never played a game, nor has he had any reps with his team, nor has he even played top college talent, let alone Pro talent...

    We better fucking beat him.....

    So....

    Browns 20

    Iggles 16

  • Cleveland 30 Philly 26.

    Philly's Defense ranked 30th in 2015 (32nd vrs the Rush, 28th vrs the Pass). My guess is Philly's defense will find the less frantic game pace to be much more refreshing on their legs. I can't imagine anyone on the defense likes it if/when the offense goes 3 and out running the no huddle. That said, their offense ranked 12th overall in their 7-9 season.

    I'm expecting Philly to protect their young QB with a ball control offense balancing short and screen passes with running game to challenge our front 7. We'll see how our young guys respond and how well our Coordinators play gridiron chess.

    A lot of our rookies were only in 4th or 5th grade the last time this franchise won an opener 12 years ago. Time to change that nonsense...