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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Yeah, that's a reasonable response.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, that's a reasonable response.

    i know tia, but you don't.

    you wouldn't get so emotional over a topic unless you actually did something in question.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, that's a reasonable response.

    i know tia, but you don't.

    you wouldn't get so emotional over a topic unless you actually did something in question.

    @miktoxic said:

    i know tia, but you don't.

    you wouldn't get so emotional over a topic unless you actually did something in question.

    I'm emotional? Uhhh... ok.

  • I read where the Seattle Seahawks may have some kind of an entire team national anthem protest on 9/11. I hope that is not the case especially on 9/11.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/seattle-seahwaks-national-anthem-protest

  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    My understanding is that CK is kneeling because of racial injustice. Does he really feel it more than Jackie Robinson did? Or any black athlete in the fifties or sixties? Did any of them kneel and disrespect the country they lived in? Kinda doubt it. CK is a bitch that has a dying career (but still PLENTY of money to move somewhere he's not "discriminated" against) and is seeking attention. Fuck him. This shit only stands because we live in such a free society. Go try doing that in Russia or North Korea you dumb fuck.

    @comeonman said:

    My understanding is that CK is kneeling because of racial injustice. Does he really feel it more than Jackie Robinson did? Or any black athlete in the fifties or sixties? Did any of them kneel and disrespect the country they lived in? Kinda doubt it. "

    I stand and remove my hat for the national anthem and am a son of a Purple Heart recipient......but this statement is inaccurate. There were various acts of protest at Olympic Games and athletes like Ali, Jim Brown, Jabber and others.
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  • F Furious Styles

    @comeonman said:

    My understanding is that CK is kneeling because of racial injustice. Does he really feel it more than Jackie Robinson did? Or any black athlete in the fifties or sixties? Did any of them kneel and disrespect the country they lived in? Kinda doubt it. "

    I stand and remove my hat for the national anthem and am a son of a Purple Heart recipient......but this statement is inaccurate. There were various acts of protest at Olympic Games and athletes like Ali, Jim Brown, Jabber and others.

    @furious-styles said:

    I stand and remove my hat for the national anthem and am a son of a Purple Heart recipient......but this statement is inaccurate. There were various acts of protest at Olympic Games and athletes like Ali, Jim Brown, Jabber and others.

    True. Simply saying I would think those guys, the guys in the sixties where you still had segregation and blatant open racism all around, would have a little more valid of a reason. If anyone says things haven't changed dramatically since then is insane.
  • F Furious Styles

    @comeonman said:

    My understanding is that CK is kneeling because of racial injustice. Does he really feel it more than Jackie Robinson did? Or any black athlete in the fifties or sixties? Did any of them kneel and disrespect the country they lived in? Kinda doubt it. "

    I stand and remove my hat for the national anthem and am a son of a Purple Heart recipient......but this statement is inaccurate. There were various acts of protest at Olympic Games and athletes like Ali, Jim Brown, Jabber and others.

    @furious-styles said:

    I stand and remove my hat for the national anthem and am a son of a Purple Heart recipient......but this statement is inaccurate. There were various acts of protest at Olympic Games and athletes like Ali, Jim Brown, Jabber and others.

    yes. and they would be shunned today given the world post 9/11.

    i mean really? who you gonna call? ghostbusters?

    i love the "i'll defend his right' blah blah blah when you can't even defend your country first.

  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    @comeonman said:

    Systematic racism from American law enforcement is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. Is that something you really believe is happening, or just what CK is saying?

    It's what he's saying. I don't know one way or the other, but I'm sure he has his experiences and stats and you have yours. I will say that I don't believe for one moment that it's merely pure fantasy.

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    It's what he's saying. I don't know one way or the other, but I'm sure he has his experiences and stats and you have yours. I will say that I don't believe for one moment that it's merely pure fantasy.

    I don't know what kind of experiences he's had as a half black man with the police. If he had been illegally arrested or a cop has used excessive force on him, I've never heard about it. As a police officer, someone saying there is systematic racism in American law enforcement makes me sick. Are there some cops who are truly racist? Wouldn't doubt it. Is the number less than 0.001%. I could almost guarantee it. I've been a cop for over a decade and I've never met another officer who I could say was a true racist.
  • StinkHoleS StinkHole

    This country is more than divided, it is fractured, and the only thing we had left that united us were those couple of minutes on Sunday before a football game when we all stood together to show appreciation for how lucky we are to have been born in this country, despite its past mistakes.

    And now the liberals have gone and fucked that up too.

    Fuck liberals, fuck Kaeperdick and any ungrateful "look at me" attention seeking athlete or celebrity. Die motherfuckers.

    Its bad enough to sit in protest during the anthem, but its doubly bad when you are protesting a lie, the false narrative that cops are out to kill black people. Fuck you assholes who believe that.

    @stinkhole said:

    This country is more than divided, it is fractured, and the only thing we had left that united us were those couple of minutes on Sunday before a football game when we all stood together to show appreciation for how lucky we are to have been born in this country, despite its past mistakes.

    And now the liberals have gone and fucked that up too.

    Fuck liberals, fuck Kaeperdick and any ungrateful "look at me" attention seeking athlete or celebrity. Die motherfuckers.

    Its bad enough to sit in protest during the anthem, but its doubly bad when you are protesting a lie, the false narrative that cops are out to kill black people. Fuck you assholes who believe that.

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Zero problem with what Kaepernick has decided to do here. It's not a comment on the military.

    Two quotes... one reflects what America is all about while the other proves why this thread does not belong in this section.

    @calfoxwc said:

    colin coffeecake has a right to be an asswhole, and what he did was asswholish.

    Exactly... even though with the rest of your post you question that right.

    @miktoxic said:

    If he didn't make it a big deal it wouldn't be one.

    And there it is... A protest is designed to draw attention. His did. Then the attention is turned to a cause. He did.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @taco918 said:

    I'm still trying to figure out why grown adults give a flying fuck what a back up QB does during the anthem. I stand for the anthem and that's all that I care about. I don't give a shit what other people do during it. That's their thing, not mine.

    If you think it's disrespectful, good for you. If you think he's making a statement, good for you. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to do my thing and not let douche bags effect my life.

    If you're trying to parse through what I've said to see where I stand, first off, your a pussy, second off, grow the fuck up.

    Blah blah blah. I love invisible people. Really hard to see, cuz they don't stand for anything or speak on anything until you step on their toes, then they scream.

    If he didn't make it a big deal it wouldn't be one.

    @miktoxic said:

    Blah blah blah. I love invisible people. Really hard to see, cuz they don't stand for anything or speak on anything until you step on their toes, then they scream.

    If he didn't make it a big deal it wouldn't be one.

    I speak when necessary and when it's most likely to actually mean something. What is railing against a dumb dumb or proclaiming how patriotic I am going to help solve the issue at hand?

    He most definitely wanted to make it a big deal and damn near everyone was more than happy to oblige him. If you don't agree with him and want to stick it to him, simply don't talk about it. Don't give him the attention he wants.

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  • a non-vet will ever win this argument. it will never happen.

    and this titled thread should be emblazened on every u.s .civilian's ass when thinking about it and posted at the top of every board. like it or not pal.

    tiamat63T 1 Reply
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  • T Taco918

    @miktoxic said:

    Blah blah blah. I love invisible people. Really hard to see, cuz they don't stand for anything or speak on anything until you step on their toes, then they scream.

    If he didn't make it a big deal it wouldn't be one.

    I speak when necessary and when it's most likely to actually mean something. What is railing against a dumb dumb or proclaiming how patriotic I am going to help solve the issue at hand?

    He most definitely wanted to make it a big deal and damn near everyone was more than happy to oblige him. If you don't agree with him and want to stick it to him, simply don't talk about it. Don't give him the attention he wants.

    @taco918 said:

    I speak when necessary and when it's most likely to actually mean something. What is railing against a dumb dumb or proclaiming how patriotic I am going to help solve the issue at hand?

    He most definitely wanted to make it a big deal and damn near everyone was more than happy to oblige him. If you don't agree with him and want to stick it to him, simply don't talk about it. Don't give him the attention he wants.

    That one is on the corporate media

  • T Taco918

    @miktoxic said:

    Blah blah blah. I love invisible people. Really hard to see, cuz they don't stand for anything or speak on anything until you step on their toes, then they scream.

    If he didn't make it a big deal it wouldn't be one.

    I speak when necessary and when it's most likely to actually mean something. What is railing against a dumb dumb or proclaiming how patriotic I am going to help solve the issue at hand?

    He most definitely wanted to make it a big deal and damn near everyone was more than happy to oblige him. If you don't agree with him and want to stick it to him, simply don't talk about it. Don't give him the attention he wants.

    @taco918 said:

    I speak when necessary and when it's most likely to actually mean something. What is railing against a dumb dumb or proclaiming how patriotic I am going to help solve the issue at hand?

    He most definitely wanted to make it a big deal and damn near everyone was more than happy to oblige him. If you don't agree with him and want to stick it to him, simply don't talk about it. Don't give him the attention he wants.

    well if it's not rg3 or ghoolie, what else can we bitch about? the price of tea in china?

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    a non-vet will ever win this argument. it will never happen.

    and this titled thread should be emblazened on every u.s .civilian's ass when thinking about it and posted at the top of every board. like it or not pal.

    @miktoxic said:

    a non-vet will ever win this argument. it will never happen.

    and this titled thread should be emblazened on every u.s .civilian's ass when thinking about it and posted at the top of every board. like it or not pal.

    There is no 'winner' in this argument. There is no 'argument', in all actuality.

    Kaep has a right to speak out as he pleases in peaceful protest. You might disagree with his stance, lord knows I do. But if you take that away, you quite literally eat at the foundation of America.

    It's quite the conundrum in and of itself.

    Again, I don't agree with it but I God damn well at least like having the option to exercise that right.

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  • Not once did Kaepernick say he didn't support the troops.

    One day they're going to do a sociology study on how people got riled up, in a cultish manner, over someone who refused to stand up for the flag. And that in itself is very-american.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @miktoxic said:

    a non-vet will ever win this argument. it will never happen.

    and this titled thread should be emblazened on every u.s .civilian's ass when thinking about it and posted at the top of every board. like it or not pal.

    There is no 'winner' in this argument. There is no 'argument', in all actuality.

    Kaep has a right to speak out as he pleases in peaceful protest. You might disagree with his stance, lord knows I do. But if you take that away, you quite literally eat at the foundation of America.

    It's quite the conundrum in and of itself.

    Again, I don't agree with it but I God damn well at least like having the option to exercise that right.

    @tiamat63 said:

    There is no 'winner' in this argument. There is no 'argument', in all actuality.

    Kaep has a right to speak out as he pleases in peaceful protest. You might disagree with his stance, lord knows I do. But if you take that away, you quite literally eat at the foundation of America.

    It's quite the conundrum in and of itself.

    Again, I don't agree with it but I God damn well at least like having the option to exercise that right.

    Good post. He does have the right to protest peacefully. Too bad he's not protesting and just seeking attention.
    tiamat63T 1 Reply

  • Well, one this is for sure....the Browns must really suck bad, if on the day before the opener, the ONLY discussion is about some 2nd string douche bag QB, 3000 miles away, who is protesting, or didnt stand for the anthem.....whatever.....

    The countries full of idiots and dipshits, yet lets get all bent out of shape because we found another one....

    Sheesh...

  • It's true Mud, the Browns suck.

  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    @tiamat63 said:

    There is no 'winner' in this argument. There is no 'argument', in all actuality.

    Kaep has a right to speak out as he pleases in peaceful protest. You might disagree with his stance, lord knows I do. But if you take that away, you quite literally eat at the foundation of America.

    It's quite the conundrum in and of itself.

    Again, I don't agree with it but I God damn well at least like having the option to exercise that right.

    Good post. He does have the right to protest peacefully. Too bad he's not protesting and just seeking attention.

    @comeonman said:

    Good post. He does have the right to protest peacefully. Too bad he's not protesting and just seeking attention.

    And he's still well within his right to do so.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @comeonman said:

    Good post. He does have the right to protest peacefully. Too bad he's not protesting and just seeking attention.

    And he's still well within his right to do so.

    @tiamat63 said:

    And he's still well within his right to do so.

    Every bit that we'll give him ?

  • SUNDAY 9/11 Anniversary, The Anthem, NFL Stance and My Money

    Personally I believe the SUNDAY 9/11 Anniversary part overweighs all of the other topics going on in this country on that day and if they do a moment of silence or whatever and then all this other "stuff" breaks out it will be a mixed message mess.

    One day with one issue?

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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