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Talk To Your Kids About the SEC Myth

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  • W wargograw

    @the-gipper said:

    @wargograw said:

    Well, yes, they might. Let's say a one loss team from another conference has two wins over Non-conf. P5 opponents....and an SEC one loss team has no win over any other P5 opponent....but has wins over all those cupcakes. The committee would likely take the other team.

    Yeah, I doubt that, but ok.

    This has varied from year to year. I think there have been some stadium enlargements in like Tenn. and Tex A&M that have put them over in the last year or two.

    Tennessee's been over 100K for 20 years.

    I didn't say you didn't have more....but your claim that the Big Ten had no more than 3 in the Top 20 was bogus.

    Since I didn't make that claim, congrats I guess?

    So? You know them but don't want to reveal them. What are you? Nixon, Trump....secret plans.

    You're already revealing them for me. Not having many NFL teams down here is one reason.

    It is....that is the point.

    Congrats. We still have the best college teams.

    We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? There is no "we". There are all individual schools.

    If there were a "we" then the SEC would consist of one single school, one single team.

    The south has better college teams than any other region. I live in the south. Hence, "we."

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #209

    @wargograw said:

    The south has better college teams than any other region. I live in the south. Hence, "we."

    You live in Texas, that is not the south, that is considered the southwest or west. There is a difference. Just because you are in the Southeast Conference doesn't make you south.

    Here is how census demographics break down the country in terms of 5 regions:

    Northeast: Maine, NH, Vermont, RI, Mass, Conn. NY, Penn., New Jersey Delaware, Maryland, West Va.

    Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, North Dak, South Dak. Nebraska, Kansas

    Southeast: Virginia, NC, SC, Ga, Florida, KY, Tenn. Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas

    Northwest: Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington, Oregon

    Southwest: Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #210

    Whatever.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #211

    Next you're about to tell me how Florida is a southern state.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #212

    North Florida is

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Next you're about to tell me how Florida is a southern state.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #213

    @tiamat63 said:

    Next you're about to tell me how Florida is a southern state.

    Look at a map.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #214

    Culturally south Florida is in the northeast.

  • W wargograw

    Culturally south Florida is in the northeast.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #215

    @wargograw said:

    Culturally south Florida is in the northeast.

    I know, I was being sarcastic.

    W 1 Reply
  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #216

    Wait, I just realized War is an Aggie claiming that the SEC has 'better fans'.

    Pipe down, will ya? You haven't even been in the conference a decade man.

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @wargograw said:

    Culturally south Florida is in the northeast.

    I know, I was being sarcastic.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #217

    @tiamat63 said:

    I know, I was being sarcastic.

    I was responding to Gipper's simplistic "get a map" analysis.

  • W wargograw

    @tiamat63 said:

    I know, I was being sarcastic.

    I was responding to Gipper's simplistic "get a map" analysis.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #218

    @wargograw said:

    I was responding to Gipper's simplistic "get a map" analysis.

    Yes, we are all aware of the idiom: "In Florida, the more northern you go the more southern you get",meaning that South Florida is really more snowbird country, people transplanted from other parts of the country, northeast and midwest.

    I know this well, my sister was one of them....moved to Ft. Lauderdale in 1969, moved back to Ohio in 2005.

    My niece who works for me is a native South Floridian...and fits the mold, though she now lives here.

    My nephew however who is originally from South Florida is now living in North Florida..Jacksonville, and he has picked up the mantra and now is full bore north Florida redneck.

    Beyond that, the fact is that Florida is actually dominated by the ACC with Miami/FSU. My nephew still maintains his south Florida rooting interests though: Dolphins/Hurricanes.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Wait, I just realized War is an Aggie claiming that the SEC has 'better fans'.

    Pipe down, will ya? You haven't even been in the conference a decade man.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #219

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wait, I just realized War is an Aggie claiming that the SEC has 'better fans'.

    Pipe down, will ya? You haven't even been in the conference a decade man.

    Yeah that started as soon as they joined

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  • W wargograw wrote on
    #220

    I've said they had the best fans for a good decade plus, but please continue to tell me about myself, friends.

  • W wargograw

    I've said they had the best fans for a good decade plus, but please continue to tell me about myself, friends.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #221

    @wargograw said:

    I've said they had the best fans for a good decade plus, but please continue to tell me about myself, friends.

    Here is what I know about yourself: Austin used to be a great town, now it fairly well sucks because the traffic has become immaneuverable.

    (I may have to go through there later this year, hopefully it won't be so bad.

    (Nevertheless....Longhorn fans still rule, fair to say?)

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #222

    I don't disagree with any of that (assuming you're saying they rule Austin). I'm looking to get out of here ASAP.

  • W wargograw

    I don't disagree with any of that (assuming you're saying they rule Austin). I'm looking to get out of here ASAP.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #223

    @wargograw said:

    I don't disagree with any of that (assuming you're saying they rule Austin). I'm looking to get out of here ASAP.

    Texas....from a fan point of view.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #224

    Roughly the same size stadium, enrollment, and alumni. They have history and media presence on their side. We're in a much more stable conference.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #225

    Amazing too everyone knows in the top 10 US cities NYC, LA, CHI but not many realize cities like San Antonio, Austin and San Jose are there now.

    Cleveland was 5 at one time now 51, Columbus 15 and Cincinnati 66 are the biggest cities in Ohio.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • mjp28M mjp28

    Amazing too everyone knows in the top 10 US cities NYC, LA, CHI but not many realize cities like San Antonio, Austin and San Jose are there now.

    Cleveland was 5 at one time now 51, Columbus 15 and Cincinnati 66 are the biggest cities in Ohio.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #226

    @mjp28 said:

    Amazing too everyone knows in the top 10 US cities NYC, LA, CHI but not many realize cities like San Antonio, Austin and San Jose are there now.

    Cleveland was 5 at one time now 51, Columbus 15 and Cincinnati 66 are the biggest cities in Ohio.

    If you just look at the city proper. If you go by the entire Metro areas, Cleveland is still like 16th or so. Columbus is half that size.

    mjp28M 1 Reply
  • W wargograw

    Roughly the same size stadium, enrollment, and alumni. They have history and media presence on their side. We're in a much more stable conference.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #227

    @wargograw said:

    Roughly the same size stadium, enrollment, and alumni. They have history and media presence on their side. We're in a much more stable conference.

    If the Big 12 is unstable it is because Tex A&M made it that way by jumping ship.

    And despite that TAMU is still maybe the 5th best team in that state.

    (TCU, Houston, Baylor, Texas all may be better this year anyway)

    W 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mjp28 said:

    Amazing too everyone knows in the top 10 US cities NYC, LA, CHI but not many realize cities like San Antonio, Austin and San Jose are there now.

    Cleveland was 5 at one time now 51, Columbus 15 and Cincinnati 66 are the biggest cities in Ohio.

    If you just look at the city proper. If you go by the entire Metro areas, Cleveland is still like 16th or so. Columbus is half that size.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #228

    @the-gipper said:

    If you just look at the city proper. If you go by the entire Metro areas, Cleveland is still like 16th or so. Columbus is half that size.

    Yes that's just US Census data on cities, metros can really spread even invading other cities areas.

    Columbus on the other hand is still the biggest island in Ohio, and if you don't count the NHL still the largest US city without a professional team....well except for the BUCKEYES 😉

    Oh on metro sprawl I was at DFW airport right after it opened on a company trip to Bryan/College Station and Hearne, TX. They built it out away from the big cities which just grew out to it.

    I did get to see the South grow in the late 1970s and early 1980s with two big corporations it was wild but I stayed based in Ohio.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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