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  • choco chocoC
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    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    both are unknowns, so we dont know if sanchez is an upgrade or not.

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    • T TK39

      I think it would be a horrible move....and the town of Cleveland would eat the GM up alive!

      Sanchez will be a fine QB (maybe) and isn't an upgrade from Brady Quinn.

      Just a thought.

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      BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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      @tk39 said:

      I think it would be a horrible move....and the town of Cleveland would eat the GM up alive!

      Sanchez will be a fine QB (maybe) and isn't an upgrade from Brady Quinn.

      Just a thought.

      I wouldnt mind them drafting Sanchez @ number 5 .... apart from experience (lack off) no body has anything against him that says he is a bad pick ... i will be surprised if the seahawks dont take him.

      If i look at the number of teams that need a quarterback and the QB prospects in the draft ... draftin Sanchez will make a lot of teams call Cleveland. Worst Case scenario we have 3 QB's in which case we let Quinn and Anderson duke it out with the loser getting cut.

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        N Nicksilvy wrote on last edited by
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        how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

        hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

        Josh Cribbs?

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          @hammertime said:

          Who is it you want the Browns to start at QB? Just for the record.

          how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

          hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

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          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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          @lumbergh said:

          how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

          hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

          yeah a complete phony who shit himself when it matterd most...go on lilboy and go fuk you Derek Bear Fathead!

          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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          • LumberghL Lumbergh

            @hammertime said:

            Who is it you want the Browns to start at QB? Just for the record.

            how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

            hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

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            hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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            @lumbergh said:

            how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

            hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

            Alright, if we go on those qualities and assume he is the starter. How much slack do you give? At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

            There must be a limit to the amount of losing you accept before a change should be made, what would you need to see for him to be benched?

            guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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            • Greythan G
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              G Greythan wrote on last edited by
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              established TD passer

              What kind of double talk bullshit is this? You're a fraud.

              Here's the more accurate quote:

              2008's Lowest Rated Passer

              Grab your popcorn, the Lum-circus is in town.

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              • LumberghL Lumbergh

                @hammertime said:

                Who is it you want the Browns to start at QB? Just for the record.

                how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

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                B BrownsLifer wrote on last edited by
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                @lumbergh said:

                how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                If you are speaking of DA, you have problems. The fact of the matter is this: THAT WAS DA's PAST. He fell apart last season, tried to prove himself again, but was continiously inconsistent with the short passes, made too many incomplete ones by overthrowing and underthrowing them, when he was in trouble, he wouldnt move like Quinn does. DA just waits to be tackled. Hes a loser, hes pathetic and should no longer be a quarterback. Hes nothing. Quinn has already showed that hes more consistent in the pocket, gets the ball down the field, makes quick decisions and barely gets sacked. He lets the ball go before he gets tackled. We appreciate what DA did in 2007 but that was a one hit wonder my friend.

                Lumbergh these are the facts. Look at the stats. And not just the stats, tapes of the 08 season when he was quarterback. He was horrible and thats not a matter of opinion. Its a fact. Hes nothing, he sucks. Get rid of him.

                Quinn has a chance but has alot to prove. And he will perform and make plays unlike DA. You watch. DA=Tim Couch in my book. WORTHLESS. Sad but true buddy. Live with it.

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                  how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                  hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                  Josh Cribbs?

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                  B Brownshirt wrote on last edited by
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                  @nicksilvy said:

                  Josh Cribbs?

                  Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • hammertimeH hammertime

                    @lumbergh said:

                    how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                    hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                    Alright, if we go on those qualities and assume he is the starter. How much slack do you give? At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                    There must be a limit to the amount of losing you accept before a change should be made, what would you need to see for him to be benched?

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                    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                    @hammertime said:

                    At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                    when somebody better comes along.

                    and by better I mean better in reality, not just in your fantasies.

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                      @lumbergh said:

                      how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                      hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                      If you are speaking of DA, you have problems. The fact of the matter is this: THAT WAS DA's PAST. He fell apart last season, tried to prove himself again, but was continiously inconsistent with the short passes, made too many incomplete ones by overthrowing and underthrowing them, when he was in trouble, he wouldnt move like Quinn does. DA just waits to be tackled. Hes a loser, hes pathetic and should no longer be a quarterback. Hes nothing. Quinn has already showed that hes more consistent in the pocket, gets the ball down the field, makes quick decisions and barely gets sacked. He lets the ball go before he gets tackled. We appreciate what DA did in 2007 but that was a one hit wonder my friend.

                      Lumbergh these are the facts. Look at the stats. And not just the stats, tapes of the 08 season when he was quarterback. He was horrible and thats not a matter of opinion. Its a fact. Hes nothing, he sucks. Get rid of him.

                      Quinn has a chance but has alot to prove. And he will perform and make plays unlike DA. You watch. DA=Tim Couch in my book. WORTHLESS. Sad but true buddy. Live with it.

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                      LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                      @brownslifer said:

                      Quinn has a chance but has alot to prove. And he will perform and make plays unlike DA. You watch. DA=Tim Couch in my book. WORTHLESS. Sad but true buddy. Live with it.

                      Quinn had a chance and it only served to prove why he rode pine for so long.

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                        @tk39 said:

                        I think it would be a horrible move....and the town of Cleveland would eat the GM up alive!

                        Sanchez will be a fine QB (maybe) and isn't an upgrade from Brady Quinn.

                        Just a thought.

                        I wouldnt mind them drafting Sanchez @ number 5 .... apart from experience (lack off) no body has anything against him that says he is a bad pick ... i will be surprised if the seahawks dont take him.

                        If i look at the number of teams that need a quarterback and the QB prospects in the draft ... draftin Sanchez will make a lot of teams call Cleveland. Worst Case scenario we have 3 QB's in which case we let Quinn and Anderson duke it out with the loser getting cut.

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                        Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by YtownBrownsBacker
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                        @brownindian said:

                        I wouldnt mind them drafting Sanchez @ number 5 .... apart from experience (lack off) no body has anything against him that says he is a bad pick ... i will be surprised if the seahawks dont take him.

                        If i look at the number of teams that need a quarterback and the QB prospects in the draft ... draftin Sanchez will make a lot of teams call Cleveland. Worst Case scenario we have 3 QB's in which case we let Quinn and Anderson duke it out with the loser getting cut.

                        You can't do it unless you think Quinn isn't the answer at QB and you already have a deal in place and the deal is a 1st and another pick. If I'm trading I want extra pick to fill needs. You have to be comfortable with your QB and if they aren't comfortable with Quinn then move him. but, you still have to have the picks to fill your needs. You don't want an exchange of QBs to set the team back.

                        But, personally I think they are fine with Quinn. So having someone trade up to get Sanchez would be the best senerio. I'm all for trading down and I would give a discount just to get out of the pick at #5. I wouldn't ask for two 1st rounders. If it was the Jets or Wash I'd do a 1st and a 3rd with a 2nd next year. I wouldn't be greedy because there is as much value at a cheaper cost in the middle of the round and we need picks because we have many holes to fill.

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                          Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                          @inspecta said:

                          Nice post Brownslifer, however you're talking to somebody who's so head over heels in love with DA, so blinded by manlove that his mental makeup cannot come to terms with these FACTS.

                          That and as strong as his love is for DA his hate for BQ is equally strong.

                          Put that together, and you have a guy who watches the game of football with all the rationality of a pregnant woman who by some miracle is also going through menopause.

                          Lumstucky is full on Jaqueer mode now, boy has totally lost whatever semblance of rational small thought he clung to for so long.

                          There be some weird mofos out there on the trail.

                          Is a pig's ass pork?
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                          • LumberghL Lumbergh

                            @brownslifer said:

                            Quinn has a chance but has alot to prove. And he will perform and make plays unlike DA. You watch. DA=Tim Couch in my book. WORTHLESS. Sad but true buddy. Live with it.

                            Quinn had a chance and it only served to prove why he rode pine for so long.

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                            @lumbergh said:

                            Quinn had a chance and it only served to prove why he rode pine for so long.

                            LMFAO....Yup putting up 30 in his only healthy start sure proved why he rode pine for so long....

                            Think, then speak

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                            • hammertimeH hammertime

                              @lumbergh said:

                              how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                              hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                              Alright, if we go on those qualities and assume he is the starter. How much slack do you give? At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                              There must be a limit to the amount of losing you accept before a change should be made, what would you need to see for him to be benched?

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                              DrunkandstoopidD Drunkandstoopid wrote on last edited by Drunkandstoopid
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                              @hammertime said:

                              Alright, if we go on those qualities and assume he is the starter. How much slack do you give? At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                              There must be a limit to the amount of losing you accept before a change should be made, what would you need to see for him to be benched?

                              I actually think DA got the yank early last year. They probably should have started Quinn at least the first game, and likely the 2nd, due to the concussion... DA missed basically all of preseason, one receiver was coming off an achilles, another had swollen balls, Stallworth and JJ were missing... recipe for failure the first few games. It should have been Quinn 'til DA got a couple good weeks of practice in.. at any rate, DA didn't play that poorly, not the reason for losses anyway... the entire team sucked through game 3, then won 3 of 5 and started looking better. DA got yanked because the owner of the team wanted to play coach.

                              When the QB is clearly the reason for the losses is when you make the change. Whoever is chosen to start this season, I hope Lerner stays out of the way and lets the coach do his job. Last year the team was doomed once DA was pulled.

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                              • LumberghL Lumbergh

                                @hammertime said:

                                At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                                when somebody better comes along.

                                and by better I mean better in reality, not just in your fantasies.

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                                hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                                @lumbergh said:

                                when somebody better comes along.

                                and by better I mean better in reality, not just in your fantasies.

                                So what your saying is he should be replaced, just not by Quinn.

                                You should of just said that to begin with.

                                guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                  @lumbergh said:

                                  Quinn had a chance and it only served to prove why he rode pine for so long.

                                  LMFAO....Yup putting up 30 in his only healthy start sure proved why he rode pine for so long....

                                  Think, then speak

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                                  LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                                  Masters said:

                                  LMFAO....Yup putting up 30 in his only healthy start sure proved why he rode pine for so long....

                                  Think, then speak

                                  go ahead and cross your fingers and hope that NFL execs throw out the rest of his shitty games based on a owie on his finger.

                                  good luck with that.

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                                  • LumberghL Lumbergh

                                    @hammertime said:

                                    At what point do you have him relinquish the title of starter?

                                    when somebody better comes along.

                                    and by better I mean better in reality, not just in your fantasies.

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                                    LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @lumbergh said:

                                    when somebody better comes along.

                                    and by better I mean better in reality, not just in your fantasies.

                                    Look Lumnuts, the Browns have 2 QBs on the roster better than your boyfriend! Quinn & Cribbs! You made a remark about Quinn getting the hook after 3 games? This just proves that you only listen to what you want to hear! HE WAS INJURED!!! And in his 1st 2 starts, Quinn led the team to their highest offensive outputs of the season! Where was your boy then? Oh wait, he was yanked from his starting role and sat on the pine in favor of Quinn on only 3 days notice! And Quinn played well until he got hurt!

                                    Now, I'm assuming that DA plays real well with you. But the only time he plays well on the field is when no one expects anything from him! When there's pressure, he folds! And, I have never seen anything that shows/tells me that he is a team leader! Get a life!

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                                      Masters said:

                                      LMFAO....Yup putting up 30 in his only healthy start sure proved why he rode pine for so long....

                                      Think, then speak

                                      go ahead and cross your fingers and hope that NFL execs throw out the rest of his shitty games based on a owie on his finger.

                                      good luck with that.

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                                      ? Masters wrote on last edited by
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                                      @lumbergh said:

                                      go ahead and cross your fingers and hope that NFL execs throw out the rest of his shitty games based on a owie on his finger.

                                      good luck with that.

                                      The rest of his shitty games....lmfao. God you love to reach. You mean those two games with a broken finger.

                                      Dude, you better hope NFL execs throw out DA's shitty 14 of 24 starts over the last 3 seasons. Good luck with that.

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                                      • LumberghL Lumbergh

                                        @hammertime said:

                                        Who is it you want the Browns to start at QB? Just for the record.

                                        how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                                        hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

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                                        D DeadWombat wrote on last edited by
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                                        @lumbergh said:

                                        how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

                                        hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

                                        Funny, I thought you were gonna say Derrick Anderson, but with the exception of "former pro bowler" that sounds nothing like him.

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                                          C cmac12 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Didn't read them all but in fairness BQ was not benched, he was hurt. He did not play 3 horrible games as a matter of fact he played one really good game against denver and then 2 not very good games. But, when looking at what DA did against Buffalo at about the same time a year earlier it was similar.

                                          I do not know if BQ is the answer for cleveland and I am not sure Sanchez is better and the way I would look at it is that if Sanchez is not obviously better than BQ then why waste a number 5 pick on a QB when since the 80's only 35% of QBs drafted in the top 12 would be considered successes in the NFL (Heard on radio).

                                          the Browns have so many needs and getting a pass rush is a major one and I think that is where the Browns should go with thier draft. Even if you don't think BQ or DA is the answer in cleveland I would not draft a QB at 5.

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