Draft Talk
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I still think Davis Webb is going to be the best fit for this team
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I still think Davis Webb is going to be the best fit for this team
I still think Davis Webb is going to be the best fit for this team
Not even close
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
They better draft D first.....second.....third.....and some OL for the 4th - 5th - 6th - etc....
If they go QB early(first/2nd/3rd) I will (again) be very upset, because that means we just burned a 3rd for no reason....
My theory on QB's is you take em in the 1st, if they are "your guy for the future".....OR......you take em late (4th-7th) if they are a long shot project....
But....NEVER.....take a flyer with a high pick(1st-2nd-3rd), unless you can afford to burn those valuable picks....and we cant....
Anyone hear talk of us waiting for McCarron to be a FA?....ala the Hue connection.....thats 2 seasons away....possible?
Why do my sleeper QBs' names keep coming up?
Jury is still out on our draft "needs"... except at one position... IMO. I do agree that early impact player(s) is(are) not evident at more than one position. DB? Depends on how you see the D being built: front to back or back to front.
Drafting is all about probability of success combined with impact of the position. I doubt there has ever been a 1st round card turned in where the org that wrote down the name did not think the player was a "sure thing"... at least in time. That includes even Wheezy... although I think there was a hefty dose of folks **cough Holmgren cough** talking themselves into that one. But even then the odds are lower for picks 24-32 than they were for 1-8. They just still have to be damn good.
Burning a 3rd on a prospect someone saw as having an outsized chance to be good doesn't bother me... although I confess I'd like to either share their view when they do it or have the wisdom of their way become evident PDQ...
Why do my sleeper QBs' names keep coming up?
Jury is still out on our draft "needs"... except at one position... IMO. I do agree that early impact player(s) is(are) not evident at more than one position. DB? Depends on how you see the D being built: front to back or back to front.
This is coming from me, a DB at heart. Just watching the current state of the NFL, you absolutely have to have a front 4 with an extra 5th and 6th body that can get the QB off the spot regularly. Even only a handful a years back when you had the Jets with a patchwork secondary surrounding Revis and Crow getting you to the AFC title game - those days are gone. Too much emphasis on defensive holding and illegal contact to allow press corners to sit on an island all game.
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Keesler was one of the better QBs in CFB during his time at USC and came out and played very well in his first start. Why are people so fixated with the QB position and drafting one when we very well may have one here now? No idea what Keesler has done to earn so much ire as the guy has a good background and looked good this past weekend. I am excited to see what he can do when Gordon gets back and he has three good targets.
Our line is a mess though outside of LT. We may need to shore that up via this draft. Hopefully the Eagles start and continue to lose a lot to get another high pick.
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I agree, 11. Kessler baby.
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According to the HC, he will not "tank" the season and does not want the number one draft pick. At least he knows how to talk draft in Sept. You don't.
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So Kizer the Great not quite so great the last two games. And I already pointed out how atrocious texas has been on D this year.
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I still think Davis Webb is going to be the best fit for this team
Not even close
Not even close
What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
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I am hoping Kessler shows out enough that we can use those first round draft picks on a pass rusher and someone to help the o-line.
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According to the HC, he will not "tank" the season and does not want the number one draft pick. At least he knows how to talk draft in Sept. You don't.
According to the HC, he will not "tank" the season and does not want the number one draft pick. At least he knows how to talk draft in Sept. You don't.
Pay me his salary and I will.
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Not even close
What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
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What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
Graham Harrell threw for 5k. Jamarcus Russell was taller and threw a rocket. You see how dumb it is when you bring up physical traits and stats as your first selling point?
What is the kid like between the ears? Start there.
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Details on Webb aren't hard to find.. [Link to PFF analyzing why he lost the battle at TT]
"He can throw with accuracy and touch both between and outside the numbers, but his flashes of brilliance were accompanied equally by head-scratching throws. He had a turnover-worthy play on 5.71 percent of his dropbacks, a key reason he lost the quarterback battle to Mahomes."
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Details on Webb aren't hard to find.. [Link to PFF analyzing why he lost the battle at TT]
"He can throw with accuracy and touch both between and outside the numbers, but his flashes of brilliance were accompanied equally by head-scratching throws. He had a turnover-worthy play on 5.71 percent of his dropbacks, a key reason he lost the quarterback battle to Mahomes."
Details on Webb aren't hard to find.. [Link to PFF analyzing why he lost the battle at TT]
"He can throw with accuracy and touch both between and outside the numbers, but his flashes of brilliance were accompanied equally by head-scratching throws. He had a turnover-worthy play on 5.71 percent of his dropbacks, a key reason he lost the quarterback battle to Mahomes."
So, two questions: Is he coming out next year....and what round would you pick him in?
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What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
You mean a guy in his first year in a system is predicted to break all of the records of the guy in the system before him, who was lauded as a great prospect and NOT, in fact, the product of a system?
In one fell swoop, you just besmirched both Goff and Webb.
They are system guys with their only transferrable trait being they can throw the ball.
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Details on Webb aren't hard to find.. [Link to PFF analyzing why he lost the battle at TT]
"He can throw with accuracy and touch both between and outside the numbers, but his flashes of brilliance were accompanied equally by head-scratching throws. He had a turnover-worthy play on 5.71 percent of his dropbacks, a key reason he lost the quarterback battle to Mahomes."
So, two questions: Is he coming out next year....and what round would you pick him in?
So, two questions: Is he coming out next year....and what round would you pick him in?
well he is a senior so I'm pretty sure he is. and if he ends his career at the 50 td, 5000 yds and keeps his int ratio at around 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 who knows how high he will go. add in a good performance at the senior bowl and a good combine and we could be talking top 5 overall pick. that is a lot of if's and could be projection's though. but hey that's basically what a draft thread in September is anyway. if the season ended today I'd drop a mid rounder 4-5 on him
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What? You don't like a QB that will be coming out of a school this upcoming draft that had just last draft produced a number one QB who admits to never having called plays?
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
Webb is projected to break all of Goff's single season records this year. You know the #1 overall pick from 2015. He's on pace to break 50 TD's this year throw for more than 5000 yards. He's an inch taller and 15 to 20 lbs heavier than Goff. He's more athletic and throws a Faster,Better ball. You don't have to take my word for it you can just watch his games and see what I'm talking about. He's performing better this year with no experience than Goff did in 3 years
But how big are his hands?
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According to the HC, he will not "tank" the season and does not want the number one draft pick. At least he knows how to talk draft in Sept. You don't.
According to the HC, he will not "tank" the season and does not want the number one draft pick. At least he knows how to talk draft in Sept. You don't.
Coach speak.
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Tim just watch the games man
discounting the 75 yard TD play that was the result of the Receiver his other 4 TD throws were absolute strikes all at 20+ yards. He dealt with quite a few drops this game made 2 costly INT and could have made atleast 1 more INT on some miscommunications with his Receivers. One from an errant and stupid throw and one from a great play by the defender. This isn't even a good game from him just his most recent. -
So Kizer the Great not quite so great the last two games. And I already pointed out how atrocious texas has been on D this year.
So Kizer the Great not quite so great the last two games. And I already pointed out how atrocious texas has been on D this year.
I'm having a hard time seeing how this all falls on Kizer? They let Duke score 38 and Michigan State score 36. When your defense is giving up over 30 points, it's a LITTLE tough to win.
Over the last two games, Kizer is still 42-74 with 725 yards, 4 TD's, 2 INT's, and has also netted 3 rushing touchdowns. Sure, it's not up to snuff compared to the gaudy numbers he put up against Texas, but his average statline over those two games is still in the vicinity of 57% completion, 360 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT and 1 rushing TD.
If anything, its refreshing to see Kizer taking blame for the losses, but he's FAR from being the reason behind the poor performances.
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